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MONTECH Introduces TITAN PLA 80 Plus Platinum Power Suppy Series

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At MONTECH We are excited to announce the launch of the TITAN PLA, a premium platinum-rated power supply unit developed in exclusive collaboration with Seasonic. Designed to deliver top-tier performance, unmatched efficiency, and rock-solid reliability, the TITAN PLA ensures your high-end PC runs at peak performance with unbeatable power stability.

Next-Gen Power Built for ATX 3.1 and PCIe 5.1 Standards
The TITAN PLA aligns with the latest ATX 3.1 and PCIe 5.1 standards, including a 12V-2x6 cable for enhanced safety, efficiency, and future-proof performance. Whether you're building a gaming powerhouse or a professional workstation, this power supply provides next-generation power with:
  • Peak Wattage Support: Up to 2x the PSU's total wattage
  • Peak GPU Wattage Support: Up to 3x the GPU's wattage
  • Hold-Up Time: Above 21 ms for uninterrupted performance



90% Efficiency: 80 Plus & Cybenetics Platinum Certified
Maximize energy savings and minimize waste with 90% efficiency, validated by 80 Plus and Cybenetics Platinum certifications. The TITAN PLA powers your system efficiently without compromising performance, giving you a greener and more powerful PC.

Silent Operation with Cybenetics A+ Certification
Enjoy quiet, uninterrupted performance with the 135 mm ultra-quiet FDB fan. Thanks to Zero Fan Mode, the fan stays off under low loads (15-20%), delivering silent operation during everyday tasks. The TITAN PLA is Cybenetics LAMBDA A+ certified, ensuring premium acoustic performance for all workloads.

Premium Build with Ultra-Soft Embossed Cables
Designed with luxurious embossed cables, the TITAN PLA offers an unmatched texture and flexibility. These cables are 63% softer and 0.6 mm thinner than standard ones, with 39% higher density, ensuring safer and more efficient power transfer while enhancing cable management.

Ultimate Protection with a 10-Year Warranty
The TITAN PLA ensures industrial-grade safety with OPP, OVP, UVP, SCP, OCP, and OTP protections. Backed by a 10-year warranty, it guarantees reliability and peace of mind for the long haul.

MONTECH X Seasonic
This release marks the first-ever collaboration between MONTECH and Seasonic, combining expertise to create something truly exceptional. After 18 months of careful planning, in-depth discussions, and rigorous trials, the TITAN PLA power supply was born — delivering premium performance, reliability, and innovation.

Availability and Pricing
The TITAN PLA are available for purchase from October 25, 2024 (Pacific Time).
  • TITAN PLA 750 W: US$159
  • TITAN PLA 850 W: US$179
  • TITAN PLA 1000 W: US$199
  • TITAN PLA 1200 W: US$229

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The importance of hold up times. TPU even gets a nod from them.
 
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According to KitGuru these are rebranded Seasonic Prime PSUs tweaked to ATX 3.1 and PCIe 5.1 standard:
 
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The importance of hold up times. TPU even gets a nod from them.

A bit PR bullshit..., too much PR... They put bulk caps to ensure platform stability so thee secondaries aren't energy starved, they are mostly limited by space. Having too much bulk caps causes another problem of inrush current thus tripping your circuit breaker, especially for US puny 110V AC lines, thus you have to mitigate it using thermistors+relay, that occupies a lot of space and introduces another point of going bad and leaking current.

So in the end that stat has a balance point, depending on the platform power target ie power supply power rating. If you live in a area with power spikes like, the 21ms won't suffice either way.

I am very concerned looking at the "peak" power statements.... like 2x overall, but 3x for pcie? What kind of stupid math is it for 2400W for the 1200W, WTF? What in the world is peak here? For how many ms? What is this bullshit? How it cripples the protections in case of real failure? You actually do more harm than good making a platform like that, it is dangerous actually. But who cares, their supply will survive, no money lost, they will just burn the other peripherals more in case of failure, instead of a zener or cap it would burn a hole in the PCB.
 
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What's a suppy?
 
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For the price they better be Seasonic. $159 US for 750W is pricey.
 
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For the price they better be Seasonic. $159 US for 750W is pricey.
I think they are cheaper than the seasonic street price for the same line although not sure why price and OEM would go together as opposed to performance and price

On a side note, Montech has been pretty impressive for a brand bring value PSU to the market at various price points.

What's a suppy?
a slurpy puppy?
 
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A bit PR bullshit..., too much PR... They put bulk caps to ensure platform stability so thee secondaries aren't energy starved, they are mostly limited by space. Having too much bulk caps causes another problem of inrush current thus tripping your circuit breaker, especially for US puny 110V AC lines, thus you have to mitigate it using thermistors+relay, that occupies a lot of space and introduces another point of going bad and leaking current.

So in the end that stat has a balance point, depending on the platform power target ie power supply power rating. If you live in a area with power spikes like, the 21ms won't suffice either way.

I am very concerned looking at the "peak" power statements.... like 2x overall, but 3x for pcie? What kind of stupid math is it for 2400W for the 1200W, WTF? What in the world is peak here? For how many ms? What is this bullshit? How it cripples the protections in case of real failure? You actually do more harm than good making a platform like that, it is dangerous actually. But who cares, their supply will survive, no money lost, they will just burn the other peripherals more in case of failure, instead of a zener or cap it would burn a hole in the PCB.
You can blame Intel for that, ATX 3.1 specs. Many ways ATX 3.0 is superior.

Montech did an excellent job with their last series(CWT), bested only by SuperFlower Leadex.
 
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You can blame Intel for that, ATX 3.1 specs. Many ways ATX 3.0 is superior.

Montech did an excellent job with their last series(CWT), bested only by SuperFlower Leadex.

You are right, it most probably is a great unit. I am not a elitist in regards of PSUs, CWTs or Leadex, great platforms for the price and pairing it with the right PC ie power plan, totally fine, I don't give a flying donut about ripple, hold up times as long the unit does not blow up like GB units did, the onboard DC-DC, VRM circuitry does ripple suppression, does have caps etc, its all in your head, that you need more, it is not analog tech you feed... but guess what? If some would understand, then it meant no more income for useless testing, giving grades, having new specs. I care for sustained current capabilities, maybe for fan noise, hybrid modes for that... other than that, it is a power adapter, plug it at the wall and it should work. Despite my tech background, it should be as stupid, because I design things to be so stupid, without any like surprises.

I am just bitching about the language. They think we are stupid by default.
 
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I am very concerned looking at the "peak" power statements.... like 2x overall, but 3x for pcie? What kind of stupid math is it for 2400W for the 1200W, WTF? What in the world is peak here? For how many ms?
PCEi 5 spec,GPU can draw a maximum of three times its average power consumption in an interval of up to 100 microseconds. Basically, it's marketing flipping spec as if it's unique. It's like saying "our gasoline has ethanol in it for your car's benefit" when actually part a federal law under the EPA clean air act.
You can blame Intel for that, ATX 3.1 specs. Many ways ATX 3.0 is superior.
Actually it's ATX3.0 spec & PCIe 5 spec
 
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PCEi 5 spec,GPU can draw a maximum of three times its average power consumption in an interval of up to 100 microseconds. Basically, it's marketing flipping spec as if it's unique. It's like saying "our gasoline has ethanol in it for your car's benefit" when actually part a federal law under the EPA clean air act.

Actually it's ATX3.0 spec & PCIe spec

The math does not sum up if you look at the lower spec supply and maximum power. How can these proportions hold up? The PCIe is fixed max power in theory... it is just bad math.
 
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I'm not exactly following you, are you asking how can the PSU deliver power over its nominal state?

it is just bad math.
maybe this will help, it's an example from BQ. The math works but it's obviously positioned to look beneficial

For example, if we look at a 1200-watt power supply with a graphics card of the 600-watt class, 300 watts are budgeted for the CPU and another 300 watts are assigned to all other components. The power supply in this example must be able to achieve a power of (3*600W)+300W+300W, i.e. a total of 2400 watts, over a very
small time period. This is where ATX 3.0 and ATX 2.X power supplies differ the most.
 
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For example, if we look at a 1200-watt power supply with a graphics card of the 600-watt class, 300 watts are budgeted for the CPU and another 300 watts are assigned to all other components. The power supply in this example must be able to achieve a power of (3*600W)+300W+300W, i.e. a total of 2400 watts, over a very
small time period. This is where ATX 3.0 and ATX 2.X power supplies differ the most.

The problem is that 3*600W rule applies even to the 750W supply and it will be nerfed by the overall limit, the minor voltages usually aren't counted anymore only 12V. Basically the config is different for each platform, it is not linear proportion. It is too much PR and bullshit numbers. They do not mean anything in practice here. 12V rail is capable of peak power for xx ms. That's what needed. For single rail it doesn't matter CPU or GPU or whatever you power in your PC.
 
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The problem is that 3*600W rule applies even to the 750W supply and it will be nerfed by the overall limit, the minor voltages usually aren't counted anymore only 12V. Basically the config is different for each platform, it is not linear proportion. It is too much PR and bullshit numbers. They do not mean anything in practice here. 12V rail is capable of peak power for xx ms. That's what needed. For single rail it doesn't matter CPU or GPU or whatever you power in your PC.
You seem to have some basic misunderstanding of how power supplies work. All rails including minor are counted in total power. Both the example and the montech are single rail units. I understand you are confused but its really just marketing speak even if it's over your head. One of their marketing bullet points talks about total system under ATX spec, the other about PCEi 5 spec (cable & pinout), yes they use large power sullies in the example in order to make the math work but in their example (purely for marketing reasons) it does work.
 
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You seem to have some basic misunderstanding of how power supplies work. All rails including minor are counted in total power

Their rails have separate OCP line, you simply cannot trigger the rule. Most supplies have 120-130% sustained OPP threshold. You can ignore them doing real math.

From intel CPU spec your reserve ~400W(33A) sustained power by default using previous gen power hog 150W rated CPU's. So intel asks peak 60A for CPU alone for PL4 bursts, it is by ATX spec, that is why they actually want split CPU 12V rail. That's peak 720W like hard coded. So now we have ATX spec needing PCIE5 power peak multiplied 3x. Whatever we have left... 350W... decent middle end GPU. So 1050W peak... so we need 1770W peak power from the 750W unit, but it is rated only for twice peak power 1500W peak... so what's wrong with MY math here? These specs are shit. That's the same rail and the math does not work no matter how you count. 2times max power peaks cannot suffice for 600W actually 675W PCIe rail needing 3x times peak reserve. It is the same bloody thing.

If we look at ATX specs, I can bet the PCIe5 12V-2x6 aren't power configured again.
 
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A bit PR bullshit..., too much PR... They put bulk caps to ensure platform stability so thee secondaries aren't energy starved, they are mostly limited by space. Having too much bulk caps causes another problem of inrush current thus tripping your circuit breaker, especially for US puny 110V AC lines, thus you have to mitigate it using thermistors+relay, that occupies a lot of space and introduces another point of going bad and leaking current.

So in the end that stat has a balance point, depending on the platform power target ie power supply power rating. If you live in a area with power spikes like, the 21ms won't suffice either way.

I am very concerned looking at the "peak" power statements.... like 2x overall, but 3x for pcie? What kind of stupid math is it for 2400W for the 1200W, WTF? What in the world is peak here? For how many ms? What is this bullshit? How it cripples the protections in case of real failure? You actually do more harm than good making a platform like that, it is dangerous actually. But who cares, their supply will survive, no money lost, they will just burn the other peripherals more in case of failure, instead of a zener or cap it would burn a hole in the PCB.
North America has 120/240V in homes. Larger loads like oven, etc. are wired 240V.
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2times max power peaks cannot suffice for 600W actually 675W PCIe rail needing 3x times peak reserve.
dual 8-pin PCIe cable, 3 x 12v line @ around 4.17a (something like 4.9a peak) that gives you the 150w and 180w peak marks

12VHPWR has six 12v lines for 600w and the new 12-pin cable is as you state "actually 675W"

Montech states "Peak GPU Wattage Support: Up to 3x the GPU's wattage" (wait read next line)

I know what you are going to say "no one connects just one 8-pin PCIe cable for a GPU that demanding!" I obviously 100% agree with you but...the math does work comparing a single 8-pin PCIe cable to a 12VHPWR. Are they obviously using marketing for put themselves in a non-real world scenario? 100% . Can you call them out on it? Sure. Does the math work? technically (that's all I'm saying)
 
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