Afraid of Spiders? Call of Duty: Black Ops 6's Accessibility Features Have You Covered

[AusWolf]

Not sure what the point of your post even is, since the law absolutely states without question a phobia can be a disability, but more to your point, a disability can absolutely be "cured." That would be a difference between a short term and long term disability. Yet both count as disabilities. Why gamers get so upset over accessibility options is equal parts humorous and pathetic.

UK law states that a disability is a physical or mental impairment affecting your normal daily activities that lasts longer than 12 months. I don't see how being afraid of spiders affects your daily activities, so it's not a disability (says someone who hates spiders from his gut). Not to mention, even the worst phobias can be cured with help, in which case, I don't see why they should last longer than 12 months.

If you don't want to be exposed to spiders, then don't play a game with spiders in it. Simple as.

It's also funny that we're talking about this during Halloween season when everything is decorated with spiders and spider webs.

 

[Recus]

What if I have phobia for always online single player campaign?

 

[v12dock]

They added this to the latest wow expansion as well. Someone at a Activision Blizzard really hates spiders...

 

[AusWolf]

They added this to the latest wow expansion as well. Someone at a Activision Blizzard really hates spiders...

Or they want even more sales by including arachnophobics.

I just thought, simulating the shooting of other human beings is normal, but spiders should be a toggle in the menu for sensitive souls. What a senseless, reversed logic world we live in today.

 

[freeagent]

Decades spent struggling for realism, technology is there to achieve this to the point people remove some of it.

Crazy days.

Flex your loadout.

 

[Prima.Vera]

In 30 years of gaming, I think this is the most retarded thing I have read so far about something in a game.
Seriously?

 

[KrazyT]

A funny thread ...

What we've learned :
- new generation is soft
- old gamers are really tuff guys for sure
and paired with the topic of guy playing as womens,
- guys loves playing womens because they like watching female butt ...

when I see some articles saying how toxic is the gamer community, I wonder if there is not a bit of truth in there :/

 

[SOAREVERSOR]

Not sure what the point of your post even is, since the law absolutely states without question a phobia can be a disability, but more to your point, a disability can absolutely be "cured." That would be a difference between a short term and long term disability. Yet both count as disabilities. Why gamers get so upset over accessibility options is equal parts humorous and pathetic.

Only incel gamers do. Everyone else just doesn't care or is happy someone else can enjoy the game.

 

[AusWolf]

A funny thread ...

What we've learned :
- new generation is soft
- old gamers are really tuff guys for sure
and paired with the topic of guy playing as womens,
- guys loves playing womens because they like watching female butt ...

when I see some articles saying how toxic is the gamer community, I wonder if there is not a bit of truth in there :/

You're treading in some dangerous waters there.

The gamer community isn't toxic. It's just mainly composed of IT bro dudes who haven't seen a female body in their lives, let alone know how to talk to a woman.
Although, they're slowly being replaced by silly little teenage snots... who also haven't seen a female body in their lives, let alone know how to talk to a woman.

I'll see myself out.

 

[SOAREVERSOR]

A funny thread ...

What we've learned :
- new generation is soft
- old gamers are really tuff guys for sure
and paired with the topic of guy playing as womens,
- guys loves playing womens because they like watching female butt ...

when I see some articles saying how toxic is the gamer community, I wonder if there is not a bit of truth in there :/

It's absolutely true. Gamers, especially PC gamers, spent decades proving the nasty reputation is not only true but they are far worse than it.

 

[freeagent]

Before family life I was into COD quite a bit. But I was also into sex, drugs, and rocknroll too.

I had a life, now I am middle aged family guy

 

[SOAREVERSOR]

I'm a middle aged dude and part of growing up is realizing a bunch of things back when I was young were toxic and cruel and we are all better of that people don't tolerate that anymore. It's growing up and it's a natural transition from being a stupid boy into a responsible man. People who insist on keeping all that stuff are stunted individuals and while deserving of some level of sympathy generally regarded poorly by functioning adults.

Stripping spiders out of a game hurts nobody. Nor does trying to enable a game for people with a disability. If you're working in the office as an adult you don't put stuff on your desk/office/cube that upsets other people around you. That's being an asshole. The same type of asshole who throws fits over wheel chair ramps or gender neutral private bathrooms. People without issues really don't care about that stuff and try to avoid making shit worse for their coworkers.

 

[Sithaer]

I'm a middle aged dude and part of growing up is realizing a bunch of things back when I was young were toxic and cruel and we are all better of that people don't tolerate that anymore. It's growing up and it's a natural transition from being a stupid boy into a responsible man. People who insist on keeping all that stuff are stunted individuals and while deserving of some level of sympathy generally regarded poorly by functioning adults.

Stripping spiders out of a game hurts nobody. Nor does trying to enable a game for people with a disability. If you're working in the office as an adult you don't put stuff on your desk/office/cube that upsets other people around you. That's being an asshole. The same type of asshole who throws fits over wheel chair ramps or gender neutral private bathrooms. People without issues really don't care about that stuff and try to avoid making shit worse for their coworkers.

I'm not exactly a new gen kid either with my 35 years and yet I also agree that the 'gamer' communities have a lot of toxicity/bad apples I mean the fact that a harmless news/topic like this can turn into this shitshow speaks for itself..
Anyone who played online games or was a part of a gaming forum for long enough should know/experienced this. 'I might not play competitive games anymore but I've used to and also had my share of MMO experiences..'

Btw my arachnophobia is due to a childhood trauma that happened before I was a gamer, I'm a small-ish town kid so I've had a fairly active kid-teen life life outside of the house. 'I've slowly turned into a cave goblin in my early 20s tho I've been a lot more active again in the past 3-4 years'

O ye it was mentioned before that phobias should be treated and shouldn't last more than 12 months, yeah maybe in some of the better parts of the world thats possible.
Where I live I'm lucky if a dead serious health issue is treated in a few years let alone a phobia, I would be laughed at and thats about it. 'I have my experience with trying to treat mental problems with a psychiatrist, NO thank you I would rather not do that again around here..'

 

[trsttte]

Why gamers get so upset over accessibility options is equal parts humorous and pathetic.

I don't think anyone gets upset about accessibility options, they get annoyed when those options are silly. It's a specific horror mode with zombie and monsters, you're supposed to be afraid otherwise what's the point?

Afraid of spiders? Great, fucking shoot them down!!!

 

[SOAREVERSOR]

I don't think anyone gets upset about accessibility options, they get annoyed when those options are silly. It's a specific horror mode with zombie and monsters, you're supposed to be afraid otherwise what's the point?

Afraid of spiders? Great, fucking shoot them down!!!

That's not how it works. Treating phobias doesn't always work and it's often crank psychology.

I have a friend who's deathly afraid of heights. Despite the fact that over the course of time in the military I've lost count of how many planes we jumped out of. Confront the phobia did shit for him but we had to do it because military. There's no fixing it. To this day he still does not like walking over the bridge by us as the walk path has a clear view over the edge and it freaks him out to the point where he wants to jump off the bridge (which would be fatal) and get it over with rather than feel the way he feels. He's utterly fine flying though for some reason. It doesn't make sense. He's not a coward he spent 20 years in special operations all over the globe. The exact opposite of a snow flake.

We don't raze him over it. It's what it is! And when it came down to it he did the jumps with us even though we all knew he hated it. It causes us no issue if he wants to drive over the bridge if he can or walk another route with a lower bridge. Or if we are going to do it I shut up about the fact that he's walking dangerously close to traffic rather than right on the edge like I am.

Phobias aren't fear. That's a huge mistake. Phobias can induce panic attacks and cause people to react in bad ways. They also don't go away. I was scared the first time I jumped out of a plane because it's a scary thing to do. I got over it. I didn't have a phobia. He never did despite doing it dozens of times.

The last get together of the old gang we didn't go sky diving because that would be a jerkass thing to do. We did that separately with those of us who wanted to go and did something everyone would like for the event.

Phobias are a disability per the medical community and the law. I have minor PTSD after my service and contracting after which spanned over a decade. I joined the US military in 2000 and for well over a decade I spent a good portion of my life in places you don't want to be. To be brutally honest about it the physical injuries are much easier to deal with than the psychological ones. It's made me vastly more sympathetic to those with struggles than I was before I knew what trauma was. Especially when it's compounded by people who shrug it off as no big deal. For a while I crossed streets sub conciously when I saw trash piles because unconciously I was used to doing that because in the past that used to mean hidden IED.

Screaming "snowflake" whenever someone tries to put themselves in someone elses shoes and make their life a bit better is a demented way to go through life. It also says a lot more about your own insecurities than it does your targets. Which is why the people lobbing that sort of stuff usually turn out to be incels and have their own issues. Just as the loudest people screaming about LGTBTQ stuff keep getting caught with child porn, sex scandals, or homosexual scandals. You give the game away the moment you do it and everyone sees it.

 

[freeagent]

I almost want to buy this just to see how bad these spiders are

Just like I wanted to buy a 5800X just to see if it was as hot as people said

 

[Sithaer]

Phobias aren't fear. That's a huge mistake. Phobias can induce panic attacks and cause people to react in bad ways. They also don't go away. I was scared the first time I jumped out of a plane because it's a scary thing to do. I got over it. I didn't have a phobia. He never did despite doing it dozens of times.

Yup, I can't even explain it myself its just something that I have no control of and it instantly triggers an alarmed state in my mind and body if I see a spider close enough to me.
Like a few years ago I've woke up in the morning and saw that a spider is crawling down the ceiling right down to my bed where I was and I kid you not I've instantly jumped out of the bed while still half asleep like a reflex and I've almost bumped my head into my gym machine thats close to my bed and my heart was racing like mad..
Tbh if someone threw spiders at me as a joke I could very well end up with a heart attack, partially how I've even ended up arachnophobic in the first place. 'basically I've got a lot of gross spiders crawling over me as a kid when I was helping cleaning out an old place and that wasn't funny to a kid that much I can say'

I've never asked or expected games to have spider off option in games but if they have it then its all the same to me why would I make fun of it or whatever else? 'luckily my mind can still somewhat tell the difference between a real and a game spider but if its realistic enough then it does make me feel uncomfortable'

 

[Why_Me]

They didn't turn off spiders and yet they had no guns including the elf chick.

 

[R-T-B]

This generation is SOFT

Its almost like they grew up in a terryifying world out to get them.

It's absolutely true. Gamers, especially PC gamers, spent decades proving the nasty reputation is not only true but they are far worse than it.

Sadly I agree the stereotype is more true than I'd like. But like all stereotypes there are a bunch of hard exceptions to the rule.

They didn't turn off spiders and yet they had no guns including the elf chick.

Great did these elves have legit phobias too or are we just bullshitting straight out of a fantasy novel now?

 

[Gmr_Chick]

That's not how cheats work.


They very much can be. People underestimate the hold the mind can have on you. If one hold goes beyond the sensible, it can very much result in a disability.

Very much agree! Phobias, like any affliction involving the mind, can become debilitating without proper treatment (behavioral therapy, medications, etc.) and a healthy support system.

The mind is an incredibly powerful thing. But it also won't think twice about becoming your worst nightmare - if you let it. (I know from painful personal experience)

 

[Why_Me]

Great did these elves have legit phobias too or are we just bullshitting straight out of a fantasy novel now?

Those are old school gamer elves ... they have no time to be scared, they just kill.

 

[Shihab]

This argument about what phobias are seems to ignore a teeny weeny detail: The context is a game that normalises and glorifies killing people. I think one's fears, crippling or not, are trivial by comparison.

Personally, I'm not against having the option for gimping a game's visual to cater for some people. "Reduced violence" settings and censored versions have been around for a long time now. Doesn't mean I don't think they are ridiculous and nonsensical. But hey! I've seen mods that do much, much worse...

(And lumping phobias with disabilities is an insult to those with actual disabilities, imo. Some agoraphobes may fit the criteria, but I cannot see why arachnophobia would prevent one from living their lives normally unless for some reason they absolutely have to be arachnologists)

 

[AusWolf]

I'm a middle aged dude and part of growing up is realizing a bunch of things back when I was young were toxic and cruel and we are all better of that people don't tolerate that anymore. It's growing up and it's a natural transition from being a stupid boy into a responsible man. People who insist on keeping all that stuff are stunted individuals and while deserving of some level of sympathy generally regarded poorly by functioning adults.

Stripping spiders out of a game hurts nobody. Nor does trying to enable a game for people with a disability. If you're working in the office as an adult you don't put stuff on your desk/office/cube that upsets other people around you. That's being an asshole. The same type of asshole who throws fits over wheel chair ramps or gender neutral private bathrooms. People without issues really don't care about that stuff and try to avoid making shit worse for their coworkers.

And part of my growing up was realising that the cruelty and toxic behaviour done against me and others as a child, and particularly, my standing up against it made me a better person. I was a weak and fragile kid that the bigger, mean ones always tried to take advantage of. I had to learn not to tolerate it, not to take any crap, and to use my wits and sheer willpower when my physical strength (or rather the lack of it) let me down.

I'm not saying that bullying is good, far from it. I'll always stand up against it just like I did as a child. But I would have never learned to be (mentally) strong, to defend myself despite a total lack of physical strength, had I grown up in a different environment.

If anything this "safe space" culture (that is, overprotection and helicopter parenting) does to kids is make them soft, weak and obedient. They grow up to be whiny little shits unable to take action against adversity, unable to confront their own fears, which I cannot agree with. People need to learn not to be scared, and not being told that "it's okay". No, it's not okay. The world is a cruel place, so stop crying about spiders and shit, and stand up and be a proud man/woman.

This argument about what phobias are seems to ignore a teeny weeny detail: The context is a game that normalises and glorifies killing people. I think one's fears, crippling or not, are trivial by comparison.

Personally, I'm not against having the option for gimping a game's visual to cater for some people. "Reduced violence" settings and censored versions have been around for a long time now. Doesn't mean I don't think they are ridiculous and nonsensical. But hey! I've seen mods that do much, much worse...

(And lumping phobias with disabilities is an insult to those with actual disabilities, imo. Some agoraphobes may fit the criteria, but I cannot see why arachnophobia would prevent one from living their lives normally unless for some reason they absolutely have to be arachnologists)

I am against censored versions. If you're ok with shooting people in the face with a shotgun in a game, then you should also be ok to see their blood on the wall. All that censoring things like blood does is it normalises killing for people who wouldn't otherwise be fine with it. You shouldn't be playing such games until you're mature enough to understand that it's only a game anyway.

 

[Sithaer]

And part of my growing up was realising that the cruelty and toxic behaviour done against me and others as a child, and particularly, my standing up against it made me a better person. I was a weak and fragile kid that the bigger, mean ones always tried to take advantage of. I had to learn not to tolerate it, not to take any crap, and to use my wits and sheer willpower when my physical strength (or rather the lack of it) let me down.

I'm not saying that bullying is good, far from it. I'll always stand up against it just like I did as a child. But I would have never learned to be (mentally) strong, to defend myself despite a total lack of physical strength, had I grown up in a different environment.

If anything this "safe space" culture (that is, overprotection and helicopter parenting) does to kids is make them soft, weak and obedient. They grow up to be whiny little shits unable to take action against adversity, unable to confront their own fears, which I cannot agree with. People need to learn not to be scared, and not being told that "it's okay". No, it's not okay. The world is a cruel place, so stop crying about spiders and shit, and stand up and be a proud man/woman.


I am against censored versions. If you're ok with shooting people in the face with a shotgun in a game, then you should also be ok to see their blood on the wall. All that censoring things like blood does is it normalises killing for people who wouldn't otherwise be fine with it. You shouldn't be playing such games until you're mature enough to understand that it's only a game anyway.

No offense but you sound like those ppl who for example keep saying that depression as a mental illness doesn't exist and that they should just get their shit together cause everyone has bad days/moods.
Deep rooted phobias cannot be simply shrugged off saying nah I will just ignore this and deal with it with the snap of my finger.
I have my arachnophobia since I was like 7-8 years old and make no mistake I've tried to fix it cause I know that its kinda stupid but nope every time I've tried to its just kept freaking me out even more. 'like I've tried to hold a harmless/non poisonous spider in my hand knowing very well that it cannot even hurt me and that for sure did not help my case'

This is not even the worst btw, there are a lot of phobias like I've used to watch a TV documentary around phobias and it had a big ass grown truck driver dude and he was dead scared of HOUSE cats and they failed to cure him in the end. 'he literally ran out of a room when they put a cat in there in a box..'

If anything what you guys are showing off is your lack of empathy regardless of how stupid and dumb this 'issue' sounds to you, making fun/calling out other ppl's issues is just low imo but hey you do you.

 

[AusWolf]

No offense but you sound like those ppl who for example keep saying that depression as a mental illness doesn't exist and that they should just get their shit together cause everyone has bad days/moods.
Deep rooted phobias cannot be simply shrugged off saying nah I will just ignore this and deal with it with the snap of my finger.
I have my arachnophobia since I was like 7-8 years old and make no mistake I've tried to fix it cause I know that its kinda stupid but nope every time I've tried to its just kept freaking me out even more. 'like I've tried to hold a harmless/non poisonous spider in my hand knowing very well that it cannot even hurt me and that for sure did not help my case'

This is not even the worst btw, there are a lot of phobias like I've used to watch a TV documentary around phobias and it had a big ass grown truck driver dude and he was dead scared of HOUSE cats and they failed to cure him in the end. 'he literally ran out of a room when they put a cat in there in a box..'

If anything what you guys are showing off is your lack of empathy regardless of how stupid and dumb this 'issue' sounds to you, making fun/calling out other ppl's issues is just low imo but hey you do you.

No, I'm not one of those dudes. I know that psychological things are real. All I'm saying is that we live in a great world where help is widely available, so if you need it, then reach out. Don't just sit around and use whatever ails your mind as an excuse. One needs to be mentally strong to survive, the world won't wait for you to stop crying. That's not cruel, it's just reality. So if you need help, get some family or friends together, or visit a psychologist, or just do something on your own. Heck, YouTube is full of ads for betterhelp.com with discount coupons and everything. There's a million options for you. Not using any of them is laziness.