Windows 11 Gains 3% in OS Market Share, Windows 10 Remains on Top

[_roman_]

Tried disabling TPM in the bios ?, windows update detects TPM and if you have it disabled it will not offer the win 11 update.

It won't, but it'll still nag me by saying "this PC doesn't meet the requirements of Windows 11" as if I cared. I have a Haswell-based HTPC with no TPM, and it does that every time Windows update opens. Not to mention the constant messages about doing an online account and setting up backup (despite the fact that I disabled both messages multiple times), which is also super annoying.

Windows 10 Pro annoys me with W11 update for a Intel 6200U Processor. Which is not on the Microsoft List of supported processor for Windows 11.
The OS Installation is from the refurbish company. The device should be exactly 1 year old now. My refurbished Lenovo laptop is being repaired for a dead display backlight (RMA - 4 weeks). The backside of the notebook has a nice shiny sticker - certified microsoft refurbisher windows license. (I bought that laptop for the odb2 port for my car)

With every windows update in windows 10 pro you see the banner and other annoyance for windows 11. (on an unsupported plattform)

 

[AusWolf]

Windows 10 Pro annoys me with W11 update for a Intel 6200U Processor. Which is not on the Microsoft List of supported processor for Windows 11.
The OS Installation is from the refurbish company. The device should be exactly 1 year old now. My refurbished Lenovo laptop is being repaired for a dead display backlight (RMA - 4 weeks). The backside of the notebook has a nice shiny sticker - certified microsoft refurbisher windows license. (I bought that laptop for the odb2 port for my car)

With every windows update in windows 10 pro you see the banner and other annoyance for windows 11. (on an unsupported plattform)

Yep. That's why I'm a happy Linux user now.

 

[tpa-pr]

Yet, I haven't heard of a single case of a regular home user being hacked purely by having outdated software on their PC. 99.9% of hacks involve direct user input, or at least access to one's LAN, not to mention they're too much effort with little to no benefit to be done on a Regular Joe, so hackers won't bother. It's much easier to send scam emails or post fake social media links, which can be easily avoided with a little care.

Do you mean Windows would just stop working altogether? Microsoft has had the reputation of being scummy as heck recently, but that would be low even for them.

Oh no, I wasn't suggesting that the outdated versions of Windows are allowing the regular home user to be compromised en-masse. I'm saying that the more tech-savvy family members and friends will push them to either upgrade to 11 or pay the fee anyway. Because the security focus there's going to be less tolerance for the average joe running outdated and insecure software because it's not "safe". As you said, there's always Linux (which, for your average joe, is a bit of a leap) but I think most people will be told "just pay the fee and you can keep using your old computer, but it'll be safe" and they'll go for it. After all, the alternatives are shell out for a new PC OR learn an entirely different OS. Most users don't like change.

Microsoft isn't going to outright kill Windows 10 either, definitely not suggesting that. Again, it'll be the people having to support your average joe who are going to be "taking away the option" in the name of safety. "You need to pay the fee or buy a new PC grandpa, that's the only way to be safe".

 

[AusWolf]

Oh no, I wasn't suggesting that the outdated versions of Windows are allowing the regular home user to be compromised en-masse. I'm saying that the more tech-savvy family members and friends will push them to either upgrade to 11 or pay the fee anyway. Because the security focus there's going to be less tolerance for the average joe running outdated and insecure software because it's not "safe". As you said, there's always Linux (which, for your average joe, is a bit of a leap) but I think most people will be told "just pay the fee and you can keep using your old computer, but it'll be safe" and they'll go for it. After all, the alternatives are shell out for a new PC OR learn an entirely different OS. Most users don't like change.

Microsoft isn't going to outright kill Windows 10 either, definitely not suggesting that. Again, it'll be the people having to support your average joe who are going to be "taking away the option" in the name of safety. "You need to pay the fee or buy a new PC grandpa, that's the only way to be safe".

Where did this obsession with security come from anyway? I haven't heard of a single home user who had up to date antivirus software (even just Windows Defender) and never clicked on any suspicious link or advert, but got hacked anyway.

If I was in the situation that you described, and my grandpa didn't want to make the swap for Linux (which isn't as hard to learn as people think), I'd just tell him to keep using Windows 10 as is, and not to click on anything suspicious. There's no point in ridding someone of 30 quid for nothing.

I would even argue that Linux with a KDE or Cinnamon desktop is even easier to use than Windows, but that's besides the point here.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I haven't heard of a single home user who had up to date antivirus software (even just Windows Defender) and never clicked on any suspicious link or advert, but got hacked anyway.

That's because it doesn't happen.

and not to click on anything suspicious.

Exactly. When in doubt, don't. Avoid internet places that fall under the "I shouldn't be here dot com" type and most people will be perfectly fine.

 

[AusWolf]

That's because it doesn't happen.


Exactly. When in doubt, don't. Avoid internet places that fall under the "I shouldn't be here dot com" type and most people will be perfectly fine.

Yep. That's why my legs aren't shaking upon the thought of no more security updates. Modern society lives in way too much FUD, imo.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Modern society lives in way too much FUD, imo.

This!