Next-Gen HDMI Specifications to Be Announced in January Before CES 2025

[AcE]

How exactly are you doing this, using PlayNite?

Why? Aren't the game launchers like Steam, Battle.net etc easy enough for you to use, it must be totally streamlined? Compare how easy Steam etc are to use compared to back then when we had to install every game with CDs or even diskettes, and then patch them regularly over CDs etc. - it's so easy. I don't see the need for it to be even easier.

Have to set up a proper trigger to wake up the PC just with the controller.

I use my wireless mouse when I'm not at the PC table. Also got a smaller 2nd (wireless) Keyboard for that. I don't AFK that much so that it goes into sleep, but if i'd move my mouse 1 inch it wakes my TV up anyway then, that being said, as TVs don't have standby modes it still eats 160W (TV+AVR) even with a black screen then, while monitors go into deep standby and eat nearly nothing, so it's simply better to not go AFK with the TV being in use.

If you dont use Xbox Games or the Xbox app, need to disable it or it will open up when you press certain buttons.

Doesn't happen with my system, maybe I have deactivated it, not sure, but i literally have 0 hassle here. I use "monitor switcher" to switch my setups, btw. - it's a very small app. Without that, the hassle is real.

Maybe you missed the part where I said I replaced my Xbox, so its couch gaming and its the living room TV.

Yea I wasn't sure what your setup is, you meant it literally. Well it doesn't really change my arguments, tbh.

I dont think that replacing a console is that special and there are plenty of others that dont want a Playstation or Xbox but want the same experience on their living room.

It's not but using Linux at the same time, is. + your need to have every app streamlined into one, which is also unnecessary. Like I said, just compare to old times, whatever you do today, it's still super easy and relaxed. That being said, I'm gonna look into "PlayNite". But I mostly play at the office table anyway. I only switch for controller games.

 

[Neo_Morpheus]

I will assume that you dont use consoles, which is ok.

My gaming PC is on the living room, I dont play K+M games in there, just with controllers.

For those games, I stream back to my other computer that is on a proper table with a 27" 4K monitor.

this will provide more info.

 

[AcE]

this will provide more info.

If you want to replace something simple, doing it in a very complicated way, is like laying stones in front of yourself. Just saying.

 

[Neo_Morpheus]

If you want to replace something simple, doing it in a very complicated way, is like laying stones in front of yourself. Just saying.

Watch the video, its definitely way easier going that way than sticking with windows in this particular setting.

 

[AcE]

Watch the video, its definitely way easier going that way than sticking with windows in this particular setting.

The fact you have issues with your setup has already proven that Windows is the way. Not watching videos, sorry. Make your point here, or leave it.

 

[_roman_]

HDMI has to die. (next to mini hdmi and mini dp)

They should stick to DP - a proven connector.
Or worse USB-C with DP functionality.

One Connector - only high quality cables for everything.

 

[AcE]

HDMI has to die. (next to mini hdmi and mini dp)

no, I think TV's should have at least 1 DP. HDMI is pretty good.

 

[3valatzy]

HDMI has to die. (next to mini hdmi and mini dp)
They should stick to DP - a proven connector.
Or worse USB-C with DP functionality.

It won't happen because DisplayPort is the PC standard and it is different.

One Connector - only high quality cables for everything.

It won't happen. Because the result will be opposite - one connector - only poor cables for everything.
Only few people in the world use high quality cables. Even you probably use the cheapest no-name low quality 1.0 cable that you found in your device package.

 

[sephiroth117]

Is possible. USB4 v2.0 and Thunderbolt 5 support up to 120gbps in one direction.

Curious to see it.
48gbps for HDM 2.1 back then was already quite impressive, curious to see 2.2

 

[R-T-B]

Still hate HDMI Forum because they screwed AMD out of supporting 2.1 in their Linux driver. Literally no HDMI 2.1 on linux AMD(or any opensource)-side.

It won't happen because DisplayPort is the PC standard and it is different.

Right, it's open. That should be better. The connectors do functionally the same thing, DP is just a little faster right now as well.

You lose 4k@120hz, VRR and other functionality.

Yeah, actually there is a workaround. You can use active DP2.0 (or even 1.4 if ok with DSC and no VRR) -> HDMI 2.1 adapters. But the 2.0 ones are rare as hens teeth. I've used a DP1.4->HDMI 2.1 one successfully before though with my 7900XTX.

 

[SAL9000]

I wonder if it will be higher than DP2.1 (80gbps)

I bought a DP 2.1 display, just waiting for newer GPUs now, hoping they do not go insane on the pricing

DSC is very good but I upgraded my display anyway, going with no DSC is just a nice bonus at this point, recently got a 4K oled and it had DP2.1 UHBR20

I'm thinking it will be 112gbps since that is an already established signalling rate for 100gbps Ethernet

 

[Vayra86]

Finally! Great for 8K@240Hz@10-bit videos:

For now, only the AMD Radeon PRO support DisplayPort 2.1 @UHBR20 - 80 Gbps full max speed.

Well yay, now we can look at a yellow Notre Dame and blue iron. All these supposed super high def things are brutally oversaturated and poorly calibrated and frankly, almost painful to look at. And no it ain't because I haven't got the right screen... most of these panels are fár too bright and have extremely poor delta E deviations. Its built to sell in a store, and like the audiophile world, there's a slew of barely technical fans following suit.

NOTY. Utterly pointless developments, these.

 

[melonfresh]

Yes, but you lose VRR and if I recall correctly, HDR.

Hey, I registered an account just to help you out. I lounge room game on a 7900XTX on a LG C1 with CachyOS and KDE Plasma 6.2.
I have 10 bit color, 4:4:4, HDR and VRR @120Hz 4K resolution working just fine with this cable, it uses the latest signal conversion chip to achieve this:

Amazon.com

www.amazon.com

Ignore the haters sleeping in Windoze land

 

[Godrilla]

I'm thinking PS6 might come with this standard. Hopeful TVs will come with 4k 240hz , 8k 120hz short term and 12 bit panels might be possible before end of decade.

 

[Neo_Morpheus]

Hey, I registered an account just to help you out. I lounge room game on a 7900XTX on a LG C1 with CachyOS and KDE Plasma 6.2.
I have 10 bit color, 4:4:4, HDR and VRR @120Hz 4K resolution working just fine with this cable, it uses the latest signal conversion chip to achieve this:

Amazon.com

www.amazon.com

Ignore the haters sleeping in Windoze land

Thank you!

Yeah, I mistakenly assumed that the conversation was in good faith, but was mistaken.

 

[R-T-B]

Well yay, now we can look at a yellow Notre Dame and blue iron. All these supposed super high def things are brutally oversaturated and poorly calibrated and frankly, almost painful to look at.

That's the storefront calibration for you, same thing with SDR. It's still better than having only 256 color graduations to work with for brightness.

Frankly, HDR on my LG panel was the best display upgrade I've seen in decades, and no, not just for bright highlights. That's not what HDR is beyond the storefront.

 

[Neo_Morpheus]

Frankly, HDR on my LG panel was the best display upgrade

Agreed.

It sucks that so few material exists to take advantage of it, but the ones that, oh boy, they look stunning!

 

[Vayra86]

That's the storefront calibration for you, same thing with SDR. It's still better than having only 256 color graduations to work with for brightness.

Frankly, HDR on my LG panel was the best display upgrade I've seen in decades, and no, not just for bright highlights. That's not what HDR is beyond the storefront.

Even there, it comes with a halo effect, subtitles are fár too bright too. But I agree, it adds something. Dune was stunning. Minus any white text.

 

[R-T-B]

subtitles are fár too bright too.

That's a misapplication of HDR if that's happening. They should be using the "paperwhite" nits setting.

It sucks that so few material exists to take advantage of it, but the ones that, oh boy, they look stunning!

Agreed, although AutoHDR and SpecialK both have filled that gap in a lot for me.

Hey, I registered an account just to help you out. I lounge room game on a 7900XTX on a LG C1 with CachyOS and KDE Plasma 6.2.
I have 10 bit color, 4:4:4, HDR and VRR @120Hz 4K resolution working just fine with this cable, it uses the latest signal conversion chip to achieve this:

Amazon.com

www.amazon.com

Ignore the haters sleeping in Windoze land

Hmm, didn't know any of the displayport 1.4 chips worked for VRR. I knew HDR worked, but thought VRR required a none-DSC solution, like DP2.0. If you are in fact right it opens some options for me.

 

[AcE]

That's the storefront calibration for you, same thing with SDR. It's still better than having only 256 color graduations to work with for brightness.

Funny thing is, the video says HDR but it's not in HDR, so my GPU uses RTX HDR mode, it looks okay-ish, but it's kinda terrible compared to what I'm used at in my home cinema (Dolby Vision, properly calibrated normal HDR10, properly calibrated SDR).

 

[PixelTech]

Nobody cares about the 8K/10K specs. Only the wealthy 0.1% can afford those displays + there's little content for those resolutions. I don't understand. Include what can be done at 2K without DSC.

 

[R-T-B]

Nobody cares about the 8K/10K specs. Only the wealthy 0.1% can afford those displays + there's little content for those resolutions. I don't understand. Include what can be done at 2K without DSC.

There are those who use those resolutions, but for practical use cases its basically limited to large form factors and signage. No gaming obviously, unless you like slideshows.