NVIDIA App Allegedly Degrades Gaming Performance by Up to 15%, But There Is a Fix

Visible Noise · 2024-12-17T22:35:38+0000

Queue the outraged AMD fans over an issue that doesn’t affect them.

wolf · 2024-12-17T22:45:31+0000

Visible Noise said:
Queue the outraged AMD fans over an issue that doesn’t affect them.

For software that's optionally installed, and a feature easily disabled, for something that will be quickly fixed, for use with a video card they don't use anyway.

arbiter · 2024-12-17T23:37:44+0000

When you are doing something like applying a filter to change the way the game looks, it would be reasonable to expect fps to lost cause now gpu has to process the game to fit within the filter settings. Before anyone claims i am defending nvidia, no its called using logic. If you apply something like watercolor filter that will take time to process the image.

AnarchoPrimitiv · 2024-12-17T23:46:59+0000

Visible Noise said:
Queue the outraged AMD fans over an issue that doesn’t affect them.

Still haven't been any....so I guess that just leaves you....

Ominence · 2024-12-17T23:47:43+0000

nVidia Control Panel FTW!

iuliug · 2024-12-17T23:51:33+0000

john_ said:
5000 series was going to be up to 15% faster than 4000. But nooooooooo...... NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOO. Tom's had to reveal the secret! So now 5000 series now will NOT be up to 15% faster than 4000 series.
Thanks for the performance stagnation Tom's Hardware.

I was gonna say that Nvidia users would have noticed a drop in performance just in time for 5k series. Evil mastermind plot foiled.

arbiter said:
When you are doing something like applying a filter to change the way the game looks, it would be reasonable to expect fps to lost cause now gpu has to process the game to fit within the filter settings. Before anyone claims i am defending nvidia, no its called using logic. If you apply something like watercolor filter that will take time to process the image.

Was that explicitly stated by Nvidia - if so - sure, if not - reasonably is not relevant.

wolf · 2024-12-17T23:58:29+0000

AnarchoPrimitiv said:
Still haven't been any....so I guess that just leaves you....

Oh, you must have missed comment 2 and comment 8, there you go.

arbiter · 2024-12-17T23:59:36+0000

iuliug said:
Was that explicitly stated by Nvidia - if so - sure, if not - reasonably is not relevant.

I am not only one that says it and as i said LOGIC would say if you are doing something not native to game it would be a detriment to performance.

Hecate91 · 2024-12-18T00:08:50+0000

Visible Noise said:
Queue the outraged AMD fans over an issue that doesn’t affect them.

And queue the Nvidia fans to deflect on an issue while running to defend their favorite company.

This is sort of hilarious for a trillion dollar corporation which claims they're a software company, that didn't bother to test before launching the app, then again they don't have to when fans will defend them and most reviewers won't even consider it a problem.

Visible Noise · 2024-12-18T01:14:22+0000

Hecate91 said:
And queue the Nvidia fans to deflect on an issue while running to defend their favorite company.

This is sort of hilarious for a trillion dollar corporation which claims they're a software company, that didn't bother to test before launching the app, then again they don't have to when fans will defend them and most reviewers won't even consider it a problem.

Thanks for proving my point!

wolf · 2024-12-18T01:33:10+0000

Visible Noise said:
Thanks for proving my point!

Double the amusement because at this point they're brining up "AMD Drivers Bad" more than the people they claim are doing it :rolleyes:

It's also amusing that apparently the company value directly correlates to the expectation (from non-users of course) that they never have any software bug or issue whatsoever, no matter how minor and overblown it might be - a storm in a teacup if you will.

LittleBro · 2024-12-18T08:19:34+0000

This is why I don't install optional software suite along with drivers. Never Does not matter whether it's Intel, Nvidia or AMD.
In the past, there were few incidents where people reported GPU app messing with in-game graphics settings. Since then, driver only.

It's because these apps are often bugged and may create unpredictable OS and/or hardware behavior.
Also, these apps also consume significant amount hardware resources for what they do, especially RAM.

Now every plaftorm client and GPU app will have their overlays. Only matter of time before they start colliding and making games to crash.
Already experienced this on few Ubisoft games purchased through Steam. Game crashes fixed after disabling Steam and Uplay overlay.

capdauntless · 2024-12-18T09:19:04+0000

I'll be over here not having issues with my Radeon 6800 XT and drivers.

boomheadshot8 · 2024-12-18T09:57:33+0000

5years without nvidia shitty app i'm doing fine
Nvcleaninstall + DDU and running nice !

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NVIDIA App Allegedly Degrades Gaming Performance by Up to 15%, But There Is a Fix

Visible Noise

wolf

Better Than Native

arbiter

AnarchoPrimitiv

Ominence

iuliug

wolf

Better Than Native

arbiter

Hecate91

Visible Noise

wolf

Better Than Native

LittleBro

capdauntless

boomheadshot8

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