Internet Could Run Out of Capacity in Two Years

[wiak]

oh no!

 

[imperialreign]

yk2000! yk2000! yk2000!

We all knew the millenium bug would get us sooner or later!!!


(cause the Gregorian calendar is supposedly actually off by a few years . . .)

 

[wazzledoozle]

I dont think so. Fiber optic networks and holographic storage should provide enough storage space and bandwidth for the entire works of mankind.

Of course we have the ISP's like comcast who insist on maintaining ancient coaxial networks. In their case, they are already at their limit.

 

[anticlutch]

And the funding will come from where? Unless there is profit to be made, neither the government nor any corporation will cough up the dough to expand services before the supposed deadline.

 

[imperialreign]

increase corporate tax on MS . . . but then MS would pass that along to us consumers

 

[panchoman]

increase corporate tax on MS . . . but then MS would pass that along to us consumers

if video sharing sites(like youtube), social sites (like facebook,myspace) porn was removed on the internet, im guessing we'd remove about 90% of the bandwidth used on the internet. but then again, why else are you on the computer?

 

[Random Murderer]

if video sharing sites(like youtube), social sites (like facebook,myspace) porn was removed on the internet, im guessing we'd remove about 90% of the bandwidth used on the internet. but then again, why else are you on the computer?

GAMES!
why do we all have high end computers? GAMES!

 

[panchoman]

well yeah, but you need the internet for a lot of gaming too.

 

[Silverel]

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/34854/113/

Granted, this is much smaller scale, but it's one of the many things that pretty much guarantee the internet ain't goin nowhere. That's just for Internet2, their goals aim to extend/replace the existing structure for something better.

We also have the federal version being the FCC via the Office of Engineering and Technology.

They release reports like this one twice a year.
DOC-277788A1.pdf

99% of America has access to broadband, in some form or another. Cable covers 65% of that area geographically, and satellite pulls in 91%. Btw, broadband is defined as a minimum 200kb/s U/D.

 

[imperialreign]

well yeah, but you need the internet for a lot of gaming too.

Damn youtubers keep hurting my ping times!

 

[niko084]

Scary thoughts.... Too think, even when I had "FULL" access to a un-used Fiber T3 I "still" complained it was too slow....

Whats the world coming to...

 

[Random Murderer]

well yeah, but you need the internet for a lot of gaming too.

hell, the internet is HOW i get my games. (using steam, i are no pirate)

 

[panchoman]

what are ping times exactly, for me high ping times= higher speeds


high ping time



low pin times


just noticed something on speedtest.net...

 

[Random Murderer]

what are ping times exactly, for me high ping times= higher speeds


high ping time



low pin times


just noticed something on speedtest.net...

low ping = good.
ping is how many ms it takes for a packet of data to go from your computer to the server and back again.

and australasia is the region that includes australia, new zealand, and melanesia.

 

[imperialreign]

what are ping times exactly, for me high ping times= higher speeds

ping times are how long it takes a prompt to be sent from your computer to another computer (i.e. server) and to be acknowledged and sent back to your computer.

it's commonly used as another term for latency. Ideally, the lower the ping times, the quicker information travels from your computer to the server and back. The higher the ping time, the logner it takes for an information packet to make that round trip.

(someone correct me if I'm wrong here) Theorhetically, on a high-bandwidth connection, higher ping times can equal higher speeds because more information can be transffered and recieved at a time

edit>> Dang! Random Murder beat me to it by a second!

 

[Pinchy]

Its not all on porn. I remember a TPU news post saying it was something like 3% ...

EDIT - Here we go:

http://www.itnews.com.au/News/NewsStory.aspx?story=42304

Study shows around one percent of all internet content is pornographic.

Granted that 1% is still a hell of a lot of porn, considering the size of the net...

 

[Swansen]

Yeah, it was mentioned a couple times, but one of the major reasons why the "internet is going to run out of space" would be the base structure. For most places in the US, this is the case, as well for developing countries. If they upgraded from coaxial lines to fiber optic cables it there would be way less if an issue.

 

[hat]

Hm, I wonder if there will be an Internet F@H thing... give out a portion of your total hard drive space to the net and gain points for every TB that flows through

 

[Swansen]

Hm, I wonder if there will be an Internet F@H thing... give out a portion of your total hard drive space to the net and gain points for every TB that flows through

HAHAHA, lol, except, that won't be half as cool as F@H, lol, but that is pretty funny.

 

[hat]

I actually do all I can with F@H. I've gotten rid of the single core clients realizing those are much more common among folders, and not many have dual core, even less quad core. So I do what is best.

 

[newconroer]

There's also a nice write up by a networking adminstrator (I haven't the bookmark anymore), where he talks about the origins of TCP, and how it expanded to IPv4 and then carries on to discuss IPv6.

It points out some interesting statistics concerning the available amount of IP addresses.
Apparently, four billion is the max via the IPv4 technology, and currently we have used/reserved upwards of 2.5 billion. We also consume/reserve about 200 million addresses per year. Simple math would suggest that by 2015, there will be none left. The question of claiming back previously owned addresses is valid, but a convulted process, as there's no law that would require people/companies to have to relinquish ownership.

Fortunatley IPv6 is built with a different format, so that every person living now, and born, until the sun explodes, would be able to own fifty of their own addresses. Hence, we'd never run out so to speak.

While IPv6 was introduced over ten years ago, and it is used, the cross over isn't quite so simple.


It will be neat to see how these two issues tie-in together.

 

[mdm-adph]

What are you talking about? Unless you use voip or other critical packet services, you should have QoS disabled in your windows networking options. You especially don't want to have it on if you fileshare.

Not client-side QoS -- ISP QoS. All ISP's would have to do would be to give email, web browsing, gaming, etc. high priority -- give torrents, file-sharing, etc. a much lower priority. Simple as that.

 

[Fuse-Wire]

If we were going to run out of space we would have done it by now, again im contrubuting to 6KB of internet space consumption just by writing this out. Now gaming should have its own high priority on the internet so us gamers can have some fun, all yhe youtubers get slammed with crap bandwith and slow loading videos fair i think, maybe it might just get those sad gits to leave their houses!!

 

[Sh00t1st]

in the end, we can realy only blame ourselves, be it the obsessing over streaming and downloadable porn, or the extended replays of chinface on youtube, we all play our part in clogging the internet.