NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 and RTX 5070 Ti Final Specifications Seemingly Confirmed

[oxrufiioxo]

If I get a new hobby, I will probably complain about its pricing too

Pricing definitely sucks for everything but they really are raw dogging us no lube....

 

[Hecate91]

This is the thing really. Its never a criticism at anyone in particular its just a shame we get so little hardware for that money, and that I think is something we should signify and stress every time. Because underneath that we really need to realize this is not the market functioning as it should. The game is rigged now, and the margins made are absolutely silly. - Margins made over OUR backs with OUR money.

Agreed, the amount of performance uplift for the cost compared to how it was with the GTX 10 series for example sadly just isn't something we get anymore, I always bought Nvidia cards but since the RTX 30 series the game is rigged towards pushing consumers towards spending more on the xx80 cards, the xx70 has been too much of a compromise for the money, IMO.

You couldn't be more wrong, 1080Ti was even further removed from the rest of the stack than 4090 in term of performance
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1080 Ti was 35% faster than 1080, meanwhile 4090 beats 4080 by 31%.

2070 Super has 30% less CUDA Core and 10% less Bandwidth than 1080Ti, yet still match 1080 Ti in older DX11 games

TSMC 12nm (2070S) was only a tweaked node vs TSMC 16nm (1080 Ti), TSMC introduce them as same node just like their N5/N4nm nodes.

Nvidia has been very consistent in the past decade in making 104 die perform just as well as previous gen 102 die, but now we will see 103 die (GB103) carry that torch.

The 1080Ti was only priced 16.67% more than the 1080, ever since the RTX 30 series the naming stack completely changed and the performance gap between tiers is much larger.

 

[Visible Noise]

You have a 4090. You spent somewhere between $1200 (doubt) to $2000 dollars for a graphics card, then you say complaints are just nitpicks. This is the most hysterical post I have read here in a while.

I have a 4090. Why is the non-stop, unoriginal complaining about its price being annoying so hilarious to you? In what way do you think it contributes to the conversation? Does posting the exact same thing 2,000 times instead of 1,000 make it better commentary?

hearing the same sour grapes day after day is boorishnes.

Funny how some game developers have put limitations for using PT when it can be hacked and enabled and working on cards with 10GB of VRAM

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1hbak60
So I also think game developers are working with nvidia to create artificial limitations.

So 12GB should be actually enough for a while. I just think that game developers are working in tandem with other companies to also create limitations that aren't necessary.

What are you talking about. They patched the game to run on 6GB cards. At least get your facts in order before going with the tin foil hat conspiracy theories.

 

[Onasi]

You couldn't be more wrong, 1080Ti was even further removed from the rest of the stack than 4090 in term of performance

1080 Ti was 35% faster than 1080, meanwhile 4090 beats 4080 by 31%.

Orly?

The 4090 was still and potentially IS still CPU bottlenecked. We are seeing it in real time now with the 9800X3D. In CPU heavy titles like BG3 anyway. Besides, I was comparing with the 4070Ti, since that was the measuring stick the previous poster used.

Nvidia has been very consistent in the past decade in making 104 die perform just as well as previous gen 102 die, but now we will see 103 die (GB103) carry that torch.

Yes. And the full AD104 (4070Ti) is around 10% slower than the full GA102 (3090Ti). And I said that I can see the 5070Ti getting in that ballpark. Not sure what you are disagreeing with here.

 

[nguyen]

Orly?
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The 4090 was still and potentially IS still CPU bottlenecked. We are seeing it in real time now with the 9800X3D. Besides, I was comparing with the 4070Ti, since that was the measuring stick the previous poster used.


Yes. And the full AD104 (4070Ti) is around 10% slower than the full GA102 (3090Ti). And I said that I can see the 5070Ti getting in that ballpark. Not sure what you are disagreeing with here.

166% / 127% = 30.7% faster, not sure what you are getting at.

4090 is not the full die at all, it has 30% of total L2 cache disabled, 4090 is even more cut down than the 3090 that got beaten by 4070Ti. If the 5070 Ti get into the ball park of full AD102 die of course it will be faster than 4090.

 

[sepheronx]

What are you talking about. They patched the game to run on 6GB cards. At least get your facts in order before going with the tin foil hat conspiracy theories.

To run the game at 6GB cards or to run Path Tracing on below 12gb cards?

 

[Visible Noise]

To run the game at 6GB cards or to run Path Tracing on below 12gb cards?

Both. You can path trace on your 3080 now.

Edit: Holy shit man, that Reddit post is over two weeks old. Get with the times.

 

[sepheronx]

Both. You can path trace on your 3080 now.

Edit: Holy shit man, that Reddit post is over two weeks old. Get with the times.

good to know they finally removed the limit without mods.

 

[Onasi]

4090 is not the full die at all, it has 30% of total L2 cache disabled, 4090 is even more cut down than the 3090 that got beaten by 4070Ti.

I… never said it is? There IS no full AD102 GPU to make a full comparison with. But it’s hard to argue that the amount of total reaources availiable between the 4070Ti and 4090 is not ridiculously skewed. I fully believe that we aren’t seeing its full potential yet. In fact, all depends on the games. If you take the averages from the older test bench the difference between the 4080 and the 4090 is around 36%. So let’s say a 30-35 performance delta. That’s between 102 and 103 chips, by the by, not 104. The 5070Ti might get close to the 4090, sure, but I don’t think it will beat it. Or, hell, if it will I firmly believe it will then cost even more than the already overpriced 4070TiS.
Frankly, judging by these leaks and the insane delta between the 5070 and the Ti model the 5070Ti is a xx70 class GPU in name only - it’s essentially a 5080. Which in turn is a 5080Ti if we go by generational nomenclature of the past and so on. Which, I guess, supports your point, huh. We’ll see.
Good shout earlier about the 12nm process, by the way, I forgot it was just a denser optimization and not a full new node. Not aure how it compares to the 5N to 4N at this stage. About the same, I reckon?

 

[nguyen]

I… never said it is? There IS no full AD102 GPU to make a full comparison with. But it’s hard to argue that the amount of total reaources availiable between the 4070Ti and 4090 is not ridiculously skewed. I fully believe that we aren’t seeing its full potential yet. In fact, all depends on the games. If you take the averages from the older test bench the difference between the 4080 and the 4090 is around 36%. So let’s say a 30-35 performance delta. That’s between 102 and 103 chips, by the by, not 104. The 5070Ti might get close to the 4090, sure, but I don’t think it will beat it. Or, hell, if it will I firmly believe it will then cost even more than the already overpriced 4070TiS.
Frankly, judging by these leaks and the insane delta between the 5070 and the Ti model the 5070Ti is a xx70 class GPU in name only - it’s essentially a 5080. Which in turn is a 5080Ti if we go by generational nomenclature of the past and so on. Which, I guess, supports your point, huh. We’ll see.
Good shout earlier about the 12nm process, by the way, I forgot it was just a denser optimization and not a full new node. Not aure how it compares to the 5N to 4N at this stage. About the same, I reckon?

Well if Nvidia could make the 4090 2 years ago, they definitely could make an "cost optimized 4090" now using slightly smaller die and smaller bus, Nvidia has been very consistent doing so for a long time. The only question is what price will they charge for the "cost optimized 4090".

This is my guess:
5070Ti = 4090 = 1000usd
5080 = 4090 +10% = 1200usd
5090 = 4090 +50% = 2000usd

 

[Onasi]

@nguyen
Yeah, possibly. I agree that the closest to “reasonable spec” enthusiast card will be at least 1000. It’s just how it is nowadays. Not sure if the 5070Ti and 5080 will only be 10% apart. Base 4070Ti and base 4080 were what, 25-30? I think NV will want to keep the same (roughly) delta so as not to compete with itself and find ways to choke/restrict 5070Ti performance.
If I had to take a stab at the full stack it would be thus:

5060 - roughly 4060Ti performance
5060Ti - base 4070, maybe a tad more. 4070S level if we are lucky
5070 - base 4070Ti to 4070TiS level
5070Ti - 4090 -10%ish
5080 - 4090 +10%ish
5090 - 4090 +40%ish at a ridiculous price

 

[Ibotibo01]

@nguyen
Yeah, possibly. I agree that the closest to “reasonable spec” enthusiast card will be at least 1000. It’s just how it is nowadays. Not sure if the 5070Ti and 5080 will only be 10% apart. Base 4070Ti and base 4080 were what, 25-30? I think NV will want to keep the same (roughly) delta so as not to compete with itself and find ways to choke/restrict 5070Ti performance.
If I had to take a stab at the full stack it would be thus:

5060 - roughly 4060Ti performance
5060Ti - base 4070, maybe a tad more. 4070S level if we are lucky
5070 - base 4070Ti to 4070TiS level
5070Ti - 4090 -10%ish
5080 - 4090 +10%ish
5090 - 4090 +40%ish at a ridiculous price

So, the best GPU among them would be 5060 Ti because it has 16GB of VRAM and is priced at $399. Also, 5070 Ti would be the high-end option.

 

[Onasi]

@Ibotibo01
It will be a decent “value” (insert me rolling my eyes here) option IF it’s actually 400 bucks. We don’t know that yet. For all we know, NV might decide to send the entire stack into stratosphere and price the 5060Ti at, like, 550 with a 350-400 base 5060. This is the same company who unironically asked for a 100 bucks more on the same 4060Ti with just double the VRAM.

 

[TumbleGeorge]

5070Ti - 4090 -10%ish

-30% too small number of cores to have better ratio.

 

[Onasi]

@TumbleGeorge
I am being very conservative/cautious after my talk with @nguyen, so I chose to err on the optimistic side here.

 

[forman313]

No, I mean if they bring neural texture compression in this gen, 12GB would be enough for a x70 class gpu.

That actually looks promising, thank you for the links.

I haven´t had my morning coffee yet and this is not my area of expertise, but to me this looks like it could work. Lets hope it´s not pushed too far. I.E. closing the 8-12 and 12-16GB gap, not 8-16 or something like 6-12GB.

 

[TumbleGeorge]

The more data is compressed, the more performance will be required for compression/decompression. I wonder if there will be any resources left for actual work with the models while the logic is loaded with compression/decompression operations?

 

[Outback Bronze]

Pricing definitely sucks for everything but they really are raw dogging us no lube....

Yeah, you'd think Nvidia should be able to afford a pot of lube packaged with a 5090

 

[Vayra86]

I… never said it is? There IS no full AD102 GPU to make a full comparison with. But it’s hard to argue that the amount of total reaources availiable between the 4070Ti and 4090 is not ridiculously skewed. I fully believe that we aren’t seeing its full potential yet. In fact, all depends on the games. If you take the averages from the older test bench the difference between the 4080 and the 4090 is around 36%. So let’s say a 30-35 performance delta. That’s between 102 and 103 chips, by the by, not 104. The 5070Ti might get close to the 4090, sure, but I don’t think it will beat it. Or, hell, if it will I firmly believe it will then cost even more than the already overpriced 4070TiS.
Frankly, judging by these leaks and the insane delta between the 5070 and the Ti model the 5070Ti is a xx70 class GPU in name only - it’s essentially a 5080. Which in turn is a 5080Ti if we go by generational nomenclature of the past and so on. Which, I guess, supports your point, huh. We’ll see.
Good shout earlier about the 12nm process, by the way, I forgot it was just a denser optimization and not a full new node. Not aure how it compares to the 5N to 4N at this stage. About the same, I reckon?

You keep going like that and I'll start believing Blackwell is the new Pascal and I need to sell off my 7900XT

Honestly, if the 5080~5070ti gets a half decent price I might, just for shits and giggles. Given the large gap to x90 and the stagnant behaviour of the previous gen Blackwell might actually look quite good, because otherwise, what's Nvidia going to sell us anyway?

Well if Nvidia could make the 4090 2 years ago, they definitely could make an "cost optimized 4090" now using slightly smaller die and smaller bus, Nvidia has been very consistent doing so for a long time. The only question is what price will they charge for the "cost optimized 4090".

This is my guess:
5070Ti = 4090 = 1000usd
5080 = 4090 +10% = 1200usd
5090 = 4090 +50% = 2000usd

I'm kinda thinking the 5070ti might end up around 800,- as someone else predicted earlier somewhere. I also don't think it'll be a 4090 level perf card, but under it, and the 5080 might nip at its heels instead.

 

[Onasi]

You keep going like that and I'll start believing Blackwell is the new Pascal and I need to sell off my 7900XT

It might be… at three times the price, but who’s counting?

because otherwise, what's Nvidia going to sell us anyway?

Well:
Option A - DLSS 4, now with quadruple the detail on generated frames!
Option B - who the fuck cares, we hold 90% of the market, we can release whatever with mild performance increases and it will sell.

 

[RedelZaVedno]

I'm still sticking to my 20yo buying formula, so AMD and NGeedia can do whatever they please.
I buy new GPU when it's 50% faster in rasterization than what I have and costs the same adjusted for inflation.
I got 4070TIS for 700 bucks so the only upgrade path is something in a range of today's 4090 for 720 bucks max.
I don't see anything on horizon that would offer it this gen. So I'll just wait another 2 to 3 years, maybe even 5. No biggie.
If these companies don't want our money anymore and are all in on AI so be it. More than enough good old games I haven't played yet. I can wait.

 

[The Shield]

5070 and 12GB ...is not that bad, if nVidia introduce something to compensate.

With the obscene price they are going to charge the 5070, the only thing they need to introduce are further 8 Gb to transform that 12 in a 20.

 

[Dawora]

Once more only 12GB Vram? Not like I didn't expect It, but still.

Last time it was 8GB what ppls was expecting...

I hope AMD will release rx 9060 with 4070 ish perfomance at €400

No need to hope, there will be 5060Ti 16GB

5070Ti looks like 4070TI Super +10% via faster memory.... and even 5080 specs don't look all that impressive. Ngeedia gives us no incentive to upgrade this gen.
It looks like all large dies are eaten by

U can OC 4070Ti +10%

So its kinda stupid to think 5070Ti is only 10% faster vs 4070Ti

5070Ti is close to 4090

That 5070 card should be a 5060, while the Ti version, should be a normal 5070....
And people are asking why we call nVidia, nGreedia.
Proof.

Dont buy 5070
Buy 5060Ti or 5070Ti
Or buy AMD again

Lol. People complaining about prices in every single thread need to find a new hobby

500$ from nvidia GPUs is expensive and greedy
500$ from AMD GPUs is just fine.

Forums are full of fans who trash talk Nvidia atm i can feel the pain of Amd fans

 

[freeagent]

Forums are full of fans who trash talk Nvidia atm i can feel the pain of Amd fans

I think that people forget inflation is for real, and things are a lot more expensive then they used to be. Its ok to like one or the other, or even both. They make computer hardware.. devoting your life to spreading the word about hardware is a waste. People who have been bit before are highly unlikely to spend a lot of money on a piece of hardware from brand X just as an experiment. They could use that money and buy what they know works for them. This is why when you work on something, it is important to do the best you can, because people are watching.

 

[Dawora]

I just want a $500 16GB decent card for 1440p, or a $1000 24GB . Was that really too much to ask for 2025?

Ppls only see one GPU, its like there is no other otions..

How about 5060Ti 16GB or 5070Ti 16GB?