AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT Pricing Leak: More Affordable Than RTX 5070?

[Kaleid]

So wait, no XTX with 20 or 24GB VRAM?

 

[rv8000]

So wait, no XTX with 20 or 24GB VRAM?

At this time and what we know, no. 9070XT 16gb will be the top spec card from AMD this generation.

 

[dyonoctis]

Remake of the Radeon HD 4000 series ?

 

[Chrispy_]

So wait, no XTX with 20 or 24GB VRAM?

No.
AMD officially cancelled those a long time ago. They are focusing on clawing back market share this generation, rather than wasting their effort on flagship cards that don't scale down so well to the mass market that comprises 98% of their sales volume.

 

[Kaleid]

At this time and what we know, no. 9070XT 16gb will be the top spec card from AMD this generation.

Such a shame, although I understand if they direct more focus on CPUs

 

[rv8000]

Such a shame, although I understand if they direct more focus on CPUs

The Radeon portion of AMD went after RT performance improvements and a focus on midrange parts in an attempt to improve market share for RDNA 4. CPUs are unrelated for the most part.

 

[Chrispy_]

Remake of the Radeon HD 4000 series ?

That was the impression I got from AMD when they said they were focusing on the midrange in 2008.

From the 4850 TPU review:

"AMD is determined to claim price/performance leadership in the $199 and $299 segments, that's where those cards are positioned. A R700 card called HD 4870 X2 will appear later this year and is supposed to fight for the performance crown."

They didn't make a monolithic flagship, instead opting to just jam two midrange GPUs together on the same board. The result of designing and optimising for the midrange market first and foremost paid off in spades, because the 4000-series knocked it out of the park!

 

[Cheeseball]

I always thought reference designs are only sold by the first parties such as AMD and Nvidia.

Isn't a reference card (AMD) manufactured video card manufacturers and only sold by AMD itself? So XFX and powercolor may be the manufacturers of the AMD 7800 XT but they themselves aren't branded on there or sell them directly to consumers or retailers? Hence the expected shortage of reference designs and delineation from an AIB's video card, such as an XFX 7800 XT Merc?

Nah, my reference RX 7900 XTX is branded by ASRock (e.g. ASRock marketing on the box) but is a MBA model through-and-through.

I believe the OEMs will sell the MBAs alongside their own AIB coolers for a few months then completely switch to the AIB models thereafter. They've been doing that for years.

 

[Bomby569]

AMD is letting these leaks fly wild just like they let that COD6 benchmark go as it was.

4080 super performance for that price seems to good to be true, just like nvidia claims about their performance on the 70 class. Suddenly nvidia and amd are all giving us late christmas gifts, seems to good to be true tbh

 

[Sound_Card]

The price leak, the performance hints, the FSR improvement - the usual green doom and gloomers and whataboutisms have been strangely less active this past 24 hours.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

AMD is letting these leaks fly wild just like they let that COD6 benchmark go as it was.

4080 super performance for that price seems to good to be true, just like nvidia claims about their performance on the 70 class. Suddenly nvidia and amd are all giving us late christmas gifts, seems to good to be true tbh

-You know what they say when something is too good to be true...

Don't board that hype train folks, let it leave the station without you

 

[AnotherReader]

That was the impression I got from AMD when they said they were focusing on the midrange in 2008.

From the 4850 TPU review:

"AMD is determined to claim price/performance leadership in the $199 and $299 segments, that's where those cards are positioned. A R700 card called HD 4870 X2 will appear later this year and is supposed to fight for the performance crown."

They didn't make a monolithic flagship, instead opting to just jam two midrange GPUs together on the same board. The result of designing and optimising for the midrange market first and foremost paid off in spades, because the 4000-series knocked it out of the park!

It will take some doing to even approach the sensation that the 4000 series was. Nvidia's best was only 13% faster at more than twice the die area and price.

 

[Readlight]

Where 100-200 euro card?

 

[Sound_Card]

AMD is letting these leaks fly wild just like they let that COD6 benchmark go as it was.

4080 super performance for that price seems to good to be true, just like nvidia claims about their performance on the 70 class. Suddenly nvidia and amd are all giving us late christmas gifts, seems to good to be true tbh

But AMD is not claiming the 9070 can hit 4090 speed with a sleight of hand via three fake frames per one.
Nvidia's entire presentation was DLSS/Frame Gen sleight of hand tricks that actually fooled the masses. Not one raster chart.

AMD overhyped the RDNA3. But this RDNA4 launch seems oddly stoic.

 

[BlaezaLite]

-You know what they say when something is too good to be true...

Don't board that hype train folks, let it leave the station without you

CHOO CHOO!!!!!!!!

 

[Marcus L]

CHOO CHOO!!!!!!!!

 

[ymdhis]

Will they only do a dozen or so big mutha heatsink edition cards, or will there be some variety this time?

 

[SRS]

That was the impression I got from AMD when they said they were focusing on the midrange in 2008.

From the 4850 TPU review:

"AMD is determined to claim price/performance leadership in the $199 and $299 segments, that's where those cards are positioned. A R700 card called HD 4870 X2 will appear later this year and is supposed to fight for the performance crown."

They didn't make a monolithic flagship, instead opting to just jam two midrange GPUs together on the same board. The result of designing and optimising for the midrange market first and foremost paid off in spades, because the 4000-series knocked it out of the park!

AMD has the means to compete with Nvidia and chooses not to because it's in AMD's interest to let Nvidia artificially inflate prices with its monopoly position. AMD grants Nvidia a pure monopoly in higher-end consumer GPUs and we're expected to be pleased when the price of AMD GPUs is adjusted a bit lower than Nvidia's?

This is what happens when people don't understand the corrosive effects of monopolization.

I understand that AMD stockholders want to cheerlead for whatever improves AMD's stock value. However, for those who want video gaming it get closer to the goal (a holodeck-quality experience), the monopolist stagnation + price inflation is not a recipe for cheers. And, even non-gamers have other goals, like consumer-grade AI hardware that is priced more fairly.

Someone in this thread claimed that it's silly to offer higher-end GPUs because they don't sell. That's not reality at all. They sell. The 4090's price, in fact, was inflated for a long time precisely because they were selling so well. AMD may make more money by concentrating on its enterprise business, in terms of how its wafers are allowed — as well as keeping consoles relevant via helping Nvidia set prices from the top down the stack. That may be smart business for AMD, Nvidia, Sony, and MS. It's not smart for consumers unless they like a slower pace of hardware sophistication with higher prices — the thing people complain about pseudo-communism about (ironically, enough). The problem with monopolization is that it's not capitalism; it's corporate socialism.

 

[BlaezaLite]

Will they only do a dozen or so big mutha heatsink edition cards, or will there be some variety this time?

A dozen is quite a few in my book. PowerColor is doing Red Devil, Hellhound and Reaper I know that. I say expect the usual variants.

 

[Heiro78]

Nah, my reference RX 7900 XTX is branded by ASRock (e.g. ASRock marketing on the box) but is a MBA model through-and-through.

I believe the OEMs will sell the MBAs alongside their own AIB coolers for a few months then completely switch to the AIB models thereafter. They've been doing that for years.

Thanks for the further input. MBA stands for?

So we could actually see multiple AIBs making the 479USD version of the 9070 XT. Was your reference 7900 XTX branded by ASROCK priced at 999USD and looked like the AMD card manufactured by sapphire?

-You know what they say when something is too good to be true...

Don't board that hype train folks, let it leave the station without you

The last time I believed PC hardware hype was Alphacool and their apex stealth metal fans... It was mostly cuz of the "tests" performed by Igor's Lab's Pascal

 

[evernessince]

Sell it now. I think I'm going to list my 7800XT this weekend before the 5070 has a chance to shake up the market at $549

Yeah I'd get on that ASAP. Once you are within 30 days from launch that increases the chance of a return drastically as returns always spike when a new generation launches. Some people like to "rent" cards because they sold their own and others are just ignorant of upcoming products.

I'm not sure the 5070 will be the one shaking up the market either. Hardly any improvement to the core count and still 12GB of VRAM. Zero efficiency improvement and only slightly higher clocks. Whatever the 5070 offers you could have had in the 4000 series.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

I will gladly take anyone's 7900XTX or 4080S off their hands for $400 (or less if you can't move it fast enough) and sacrifice myself to the GPU gods so you can get your sweet 9070XT for $450 with like performance or even stretch your budget and snag a 5070 with its 4090 performance for $550!

Sell them before this new gen makes them worthless!

Hell I'll even pay you in predictive AI generated bucks!

 

[yfn_ratchet]

Big if true. If. I would expect these to keep a holding pattern since Nvidia isn't really budging on the rough pricing range of everything, just nudging it down slightly for the sake of enticement. Still, if the 9070 non-XT is meant to fill in the 'x700 XT' portion of this release seeing it at a cool $400 would be nice. It would likely also fill in my performance wants if it has the same performance projections as the 9070 XT.

 

[HisDivineOrder]

Until these cards, both the Radeon and Geforce, come out at these imaginary prices, I won't treat them like they actually are. We know tariffs remain an impending issue and I'm increasingly of the belief that the only time Jensen reduces prices on cards is when he knows the US government intends to raise them back up, so I expect Lisa's probably counting on the same at this point.

 

[mechtech]

Too bad our $ was ar par instead of 1.44. Even at $480 after exchange it will be about $700 then tack on 13% sales tax.

Now if there is a card with 1/2 the performance for 1/2 the price, that might be in my budget.