AMD Radeon RX 9070 Series Available Now According to Out-of-date Advertising

[AusWolf]

They should've just done a paper launch of like 8 GPU's like ARC B580. No worries it's available you just can't buy it. Oh sorry we ran out inventory all 8 we're working diligently to get them restocked by next year.

Isn't that what Nvidia is doing? Yet, it only paints the image that their products are ultra premium ones. Personally I'm only interested in products I can buy.

 

[Hecate91]

I actually like the way Frank speaks. I don't want emotion, I want details. The interview one of the new sites had with him on RDNA 4 was worth a million times more than any presentation at CES.

I agree about the marketing team, though. It's not good.

I liked the interview with Frank at CES about RDN4, an interview without buzzwords was nice to hear, but I don't know if Frank is to blame for the marketing mistakes though the marketing team needs to change.

I don't understand why people buy products based on marketing. I mean, it's the product you're buying, not some poster, right?

I dunno it makes no sense at all, I've seen people say they're going to buy an Nvidia card instead because of the marketing or the launch delay. I just read and watch a few reviews for the performance data on a product I'm interested in, not for the marketing slides. But I guess people do buy based on the marketing, even the enthusiasts, it explains a lot with how screwed up the GPU market is.

 

[InVasMani]

Marketing team needs to be replaced by a larger R&D team.

 

[AusWolf]

I liked the interview with Frank at CES about RDN4, an interview without buzzwords was nice to hear, but I don't know if Frank is to blame for the marketing mistakes though the marketing team needs to change.

I agree.

I dunno it makes no sense at all, I've seen people say they're going to buy an Nvidia card instead because of the marketing or the launch delay.

That is stupid beyond measure. Buying a product based on marketing? Pff...
And buying Nvidia instead? Sure, but which one? The 5070 will be out at roughly the same time as the 9070 XT (and with 12 GB VRAM instead of 16).

 

[_roman_]

Buying a product based on marketing? Pff...

I bought some stuff with those "Amd reward" games. So that marketing worked.

I got star wars jedi survivor with amd cpu /gpu
avatar / pandora with amd cpu / gpu
the last of us part 1 with amd cpu / gpu.

As of now I consider the last of us part 1 as a medium game. The other two games are just trash games. I was stuck for a very long time with pandora. I left it behind and recently tried it again. That game was untouched for around 10-12 months I think on my nvme.

That x670 mainboard + ryzen 7600X + star wars jedi survivor game in may 2023 for ~395€ with free shipping was not that bad deal.

i consider those "cashback" from the other brands also an action from the marketing department.

-- Those amd reward games were just enough to get me clicking the buy button.

 

[AusWolf]

I bought some stuff with those "Amd reward" games. So that marketing worked.

I got star wars jedi survivor with amd cpu /gpu
avatar / pandora with amd cpu / gpu
the last of us part 1 with amd cpu / gpu.

As of now I consider the last of us part 1 as a medium game. The other two games are just trash games. I was stuck for a very long time with pandora. I left it behind and recently tried it again. That game was untouched for around 10-12 months I think on my nvme.

That x670 mainboard + ryzen 7600X + star wars jedi survivor game in may 2023 for ~395€ with free shipping was not that bad deal.

i consider those "cashback" from the other brands also an action from the marketing department.

-- Those amd reward games were just enough to get me clicking the buy button.

That's not really marketing, though. Those are actual products sold together with your hardware. I got Jedi: Survivor the same way with my 7800X3D.

 

[doc7000]

AMD graphics division has some serious issues, AMD cpus gave us multiple generations of great value while AMD GPUs really just doesn't believe in doing that despite the fact that they are the underdog. It makes me think that the $650 price for the 9070 XT that was rumored was the real intended price, now I have a huge problem because AMD said they were going to go for market share and that just isn't going to do it.

 

[3valatzy]

AMD graphics division has some serious issues, AMD cpus gave us multiple generations of great value while AMD GPUs really just doesn't believe in doing that despite the fact that they are the underdog. It makes me think that the $650 price for the 9070 XT that was rumored was the real intended price, now I have a huge problem because AMD said they were going to go for market share and that just isn't going to do it.

For sure it's not going to do it. Because a 20GB RX 7900 XT current price is $650, in order to justify the same price for a much inferior 16GB GPU, they will need to show something extremely unexpected. Performance won't be, because it will be lower than the RX 7900 XT.

The only price tag that makes sense and can help AMD to stabilise the market position is $399.

I wonder why AMD has so serious issues with everything - drivers, marketing, offered technologies (DLSS replacement, frame-generating AI, etc.), when it has 100% the consoles market, and works closely with Sony and Microsoft ? !