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MSI Confirms Tight Supply of GeForce RTX 5090/5080 GPUs at Launch, Situation to Improve in February

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Wait until the end of March to consider all GPU options with hopefully adequate stock and sane pricing.
 

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"The more you buy, the more you save". Thanks to all idiots who made this possible.
To be fair, most of the people that will actually buy won't even use it to play games, it will be used for ML or rendering.
 

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I think someone dreamed of returning to the prices and margins that Nvidia and AIB manufacturers had during the gold rush... cryptocurrency rush :toast:. It's clear that they are having a hard time letting go those prices :pimp:.

Currently, home GPUs are no longer just a card for displaying or give us frames from games like Crysis, GTA, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2. The line between gaming systems and other types of scientific simulations, modeling and machine learning training.
However, since then Nvidia has had specialized systems or models like Titan, gamers are relatively safe. In the meantime, Nvidia has gone from being one of many companies to being one of the most highly valued in just a few years.
This didnt happen because they sell a lot and cheap unites or a lot and at medium prices. The margins even on a gaming card are really high. Suffice it to say that the top gaming card has gone up in price in one series from $699 to $1000-1200. No even one previous series had a 40-70% increase, while also giving such a small/ordinary increase in performance in relation to the price increase.

Interestingly, both manufacturers also stopped producing their previous systems a ~ few months ago. The availability of the RTX 4090 dropped very quickly. A few months ago, as soon as prices began to stabilize, news appeared that Nvidia was ending production.
If they wanted to ensure a wide supply of only RTX 4080-4090, they would not have withdrawn them from production a good half a year before the RTX 5000 series (february) models appeared in stores. It is hard to believe that they stopped making money on the RTX 4000 series, so it is not a lack of production capabilities but a business and market strategy:nutkick:.
 
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It’s on 4nm, nvidia could have used Samsung to make the smaller consumer chips
The card already consumes up to 600W... if it was on Samsung it would be 650W+, yeah no thanks.
 
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Might as well wait for the 6 series. The snake eating its own tail.
Right? Its getting very easy to just wait shit out now, the only progress you are really getting is a beta feature that needs to get implemented in games, so its becoming like buying a game: just wait when all the DLC and patches are done and get it on discount lol.
 
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I was actually going to buy a RTX 5080 The msi vanguard series but its over $2000 here with taxes. I had a guy on FB tell me I knew nothing that premium cards demand a premium price I simply said I see marketing has got to you . No way I'm paying 2 grand plus for a 5080 end of story even though I really liked the look of those cards. I will wait for a possible refresh and see if prices come down like they did for the 40 series if Not I'm fine with that I'll just keep doing what I do with what I have :)
 
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Are you telling me that x90 GPUs are made with terrible yields, and most of the chips end up in the garbage? I'm not saying it's entirely impossible, but somehow I'm not buying it.
Yes. They are huge
 
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This scarce supply is artificial, since nvidia gladly uses this silicon for the more profitable DC market.

Low supply and high demand drives prices up, thus making the company profit even more from its loyal customer base. Serves them right.
 
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Don't care, just release the 5060 Ti and 5070 Ti
Someone on my local marketpkace accepts 10 orders for the 5070(not Ti) for 730 euro with tax. Cheaper than the 4070 Super with same brand/model.
 
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The card already consumes up to 600W... if it was on Samsung it would be 650W+, yeah no thanks.
I highly doubt the 203 dies are going to be using that much power, those are seriously smaller

Are you telling me that x90 GPUs are made with terrible yields, and most of the chips end up in the garbage? I'm not saying it's entirely impossible, but somehow I'm not buying it.

I find it much more plausible that good chips are reserved for Ti / Super "refreshes" and/or datacentre SKUs.

Edit: Even worse than x90-grade chips are probably being reserved for a 5080 Super coming roughly this time next year.
5080 is a much much smaller die at 378mm² the 5090 is 750mm2
Nvidia isn't going to release a 5080 super that is 750mm²
 
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So supply is projected to get better right after tariffs kick in. I'm sure it will, the only people buying at base+tariff+scalper absurd prices are enterprise customers. Those are the three horsemen of the GPU apocalypse.
 
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I highly doubt the 203 dies are going to be using that much power, those are seriously smaller


5080 is a much much smaller die at 378mm² the 5090 is 750mm2
Nvidia isn't going to release a 5080 super that is 750mm²
The 4070 Ti Super is a bigger die than the rest of the 4070 series. The 2070 Super was a bigger die than the 2070. So who knows.
 
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