NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 Ti AIB Card Listed Online for $1,212

[_roman_]

Certain gpu ranges have certain prices. I'm also not fond of those prices.

 

[N/A]

The ebay listing is what matters. this is now a price to negotiate with the scalpers and then the real price can manifest.

 

[Bwaze]

We already know gamers will fail that test.


Lets be real though people in 2025 no longer think 1000 usd is a lot for a graphics card. 2 years of shortages and then a generally poorly priced generation have reconditioned people. The 5080 was meh AF and even the 1500+ models evaporated instantly which is a joke for that level of performance but people think otherwise I guess in 6 months we will know for sure.

Here in EU there are quite a lot of RTX 5080 available for 1650 EUR, which is about $1500 + VAT. Even locally shops that got cards in a first couple of days and priced them “realistically” haven’t sold them - some are now even offering pre-sales of basic models at much lower prices - about 1350 EUR, which is only MSRP + VAT + 100 EUR. So I think situation isn’t as dark, people aren’t crazy.

But maybe markets here are different, people aren’t buying these cards for home LLM / AI / content creation acceleration here.

But of course tarrifs might change all that here.

 

[ratirt]

I think that is a betrayal and I'm sure I wont be getting any cards this year or next if the prices will not go down. If AMD releases $600 card that is OK but if scalpers get those and prices skyrocket again, I still blame the company not the scalpers. So it will be betrayal again. Next one up is Intel and we will see how things develop.

 

[Metroid]

"The more you buy the more thieves charge you"

 

[Bwaze]

I think that is a betrayal and I'm sure I wont be getting any cards this year or next if the prices will not go down. If AMD releases $600 card that is OK but if scalpers get those and prices skyrocket again, I still blame the company not the scalpers. So it will be betrayal again. Next one up is Intel and we will see how things develop.

I don't think there's any "betrayal". Nvidia has other orders to fulfil - AI accelerators. AMD has other orders to fulfil - server CPUs.

So products that have lesser margins are of course less important, and won't be made in large quantities.

They sell well, like AMD 9800X3D? Well, the price must go up, there's only small number being made. GPU starts to sell well? Guess what will happen to price?

 

[TheDeeGee]

Seems about right.

I mean, what did people expect?

 

[Jtuck9]

I think that is a betrayal and I'm sure I wont be getting any cards this year or next if the prices will not go down. If AMD releases $600 card that is OK but if scalpers get those and prices skyrocket again, I still blame the company not the scalpers. So it will be betrayal again. Next one up is Intel and we will see how things develop.

It would be nice if they completely removed any incentive for scalping, like some sort of progressive "scalper tax"

 

[Quicks]

This not the same case with AMD 9070 series. Where retailers put any price in for a place holder. But still probably should just make the price 0. But I guess they live getting a reaction out if the public.

 

[azrael]

If anything, all these price and availability shenanigans make me feel better and better about spending $800 on an RTX4080 a year ago. Mind you, I was close to sending it back, because the most expensive GPU I had bought until then was about half the price and *that* even seemed extravagant at the time.

 

[silentbogo]

Holy crap. We are nearing prices at the height of the last mining boom.
Looks like either I'll have to skip another couple of generations, or my next GPU will be an iGPU... when sAM6 comes out.

Here in EU there are quite a lot of RTX 5080 available for 1650 EUR, which is about $1500 + VAT.

Our retailers are wa-a-a-ay bolder than that. MSI Windforce around $1850, and GB Gaming OC beats it at $2000 on the nose.
Pretty sure 5070Ti will be at least $200 more expensive than this "outrageous" price in OP

 

[FoulOnWhite]

AI everywhere.. even vibrators

"Not going in there, it smells"


Well, i guess i will be priced out of the whole 5xxx range.

 

[CornyOC]

The whole gaming scene is a cashgrab ploy now, both games and hardware.

 

[Bwaze]

At cryptomining booms there were basically no cards available, no matter the price. You had to compete with miners that bought whole pallets, scalpers that bought "the lot" from the storage, they didn't even arrive to the store.

Here I can walk into nearest brick and mortar PC store that doesn't stock a lot of stuff, and buy an RTX 5080. But at 1650 EUR I don't want to. And even if it somehow falls to MSRP, that still means about 1200 EUR - for a card that is basically an RTX 4080? No thank you, my 3080 can easily wait for another generation.

 

[Bomby569]

mediamarkt doesn't have the best prices, but this is ridiculous. I already spent the money i had saved for a new gpu, i'm not participating in whatever this is.

 

[Chomiq]

At cryptomining booms there were basically no cards available, no matter the price. You had to compete with miners that bought whole pallets, scalpers that bought "the lot" from the storage, they didn't even arrive to the store.

Here I can walk into nearest brick and mortar PC store that doesn't stock a lot of stuff, and buy an RTX 5080. But at 1650 EUR I don't want to. And even if it somehow falls to MSRP, that still means about 1200 EUR - for a card that is basically an RTX 4080? No thank you, my 3080 can easily wait for another generation.

Hopefully that last crypto boom is going to make a lot of people remember the pricing and not dish out €1k+ for a GPU again.

 

[Darkholm]

Hopefully that last crypto boom is going to make a lot of people remember the pricing and not dish out €1k+ for a GPU again.

Nope. Goldfish memory.

 

[Bomby569]

it's hard to get prices up, but once people for some reason get accustomed to higher prices it's easy to make them pay them, the same happens to inflation and it never comes down, once the companies see they can get away with it the last thing they want to do is go back

they just have to make you accept it once (covid, crypto did the job for them), the rest is easy. All sorts of excuses why prices can never go back down.

 

[Wasteland]

it's hard to get prices up, but once people for some reason get accustomed to higher prices it's easy to make them pay them, the same happens to inflation and it never comes down, once the companies see they can get away with it the last thing they want to do is go back

they just have to make you accept it once (covid, crypto did the job for them), the rest is easy. All sorts of excuses why prices can never go back down.

This is only true up to a point. What we're seeing in the GPU market can be attributed to many things, but I don't think "high demand from gamers" fits the facts:

Only a small subset of "gamers" have been conditioned to accept ludicrously high prices. Those people might be characterized as high-end enthusiasts or simply FOMO victims; take your pick, but most people are just quietly humming along with low-to-mid-range cards from prior generations. The quality of current cutting edge AAA games offers precious little incentive to upgrade hardware at all, these days. Unless you're in love with benchmarking, that is--and I'm not judging; I've been there myself.

 

[Jtuck9]

This is only true up to a point. What we're seeing in the GPU market can be attributed to many things, but I don't think "high demand from gamers" fits the facts:

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Only a small subset of "gamers" have been conditioned to accept ludicrously high prices. Those people might be characterized as high-end enthusiasts or simply FOMO victims; take your pick, but most people are just quietly humming along with low-to-mid-range cards from prior generations. The quality of current cutting edge AAA games offers precious little incentive to upgrade hardware at all, these days. Unless you're in love with benchmarking, that is--and I'm not judging; I've been there myself.

Does it tell you what sort of games those particular people are playing? And settings, etc?

 

[Bomby569]

This is only true up to a point. What we're seeing in the GPU market can be attributed to many things, but I don't think "high demand from gamers" fits the facts:

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Only a small subset of "gamers" have been conditioned to accept ludicrously high prices. Those people might be characterized as high-end enthusiasts or simply FOMO victims; take your pick, but most people are just quietly humming along with low-to-mid-range cards from prior generations. The quality of current cutting edge AAA games offers precious little incentive to upgrade hardware at all, these days. Unless you're in love with benchmarking, that is--and I'm not judging; I've been there myself.

not sure what your point is, obviously the 4090 wouldn't be the top card. But they sold a lot, just like the 7900 on AMD's side. And in the top cards you have 4060's and 4070's that are also stupidly expensive (especially for the value they represented)

you got 4060's that should be 4050 and 4070's that should be 4060's, another way to increase pricing