Radeon RX 9070 XT Sample Reportedly Scores 7931 Points in FurMark 2, Close to RX 7900 XTX Performance

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An alleged AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT graphics card has posted an overall score of 7931 points in a Furmark v2.5 OpenGL test session. Earlier today, Tomasz Gawroński shared a hastily prepared screenshot, accompanied by his observations: "I found an AMD (RDNA 4) Radeon RX 9070 XT GPU and Ryzen 9 9950X3D CPU with hacked drivers. Device ID (1002-7550) matches the recently leaked Geekbench entry. There are multiple benches with 9950X3D on Furmark. Scores are impressive: 41-48% higher than Radeon 7800 XT." VideoCardz believes that the Furmark leak points to the true potential of Team Red's upcoming Navi 48-based graphics cards. Recent Geekbench results—reportedly produced by Radeon RX 9070 XT and 9070 (non-XT) pre-release samples—have indicated underwhelming performance; closer to previous-gen mid-range levels.

The "hacked" Radeon RX 9070 XT sample's Furmark tally—of 7931—places it higher than previously perceived; when compared to Team Red's middle-to-high range portfolio of RDNA 3 offerings. VideoCardz posited that the leaked candidate's score: "puts it almost at the Radeon RX 7900 XTX's level, faster than the Radeon RX 7900 XT, RX 7900 GRE, and over 50% higher than the 7800 XT. Based on rumors we heard this week, AMD is said to be claiming over ~40% higher performance at 4K (games) than the 7900 GRE, so this would be in line with these claims."



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[GodisanAtheist]

We're so god damn hungry for actual performance numbers for RDNA 4 we've sunk to Furmark "benching"

 

[the54thvoid]

I mean, at close to 7900XTX performance, this number of years after, they can't charge more than $700*. Unless RT is fixed (yawn), and matches 4090 level (doubt it).

* Edit - Yeah - they'll charge what they want, but in the rational universe (which is disappearing ever time I check the news), it shouldn't be.

 

[JustBenching]

Unless RT is fixed (yawn), and matches 4090 level (doubt it).

Matching 4090 in RT? Isn't it more likely to match it in raster than in RT?

 

[the54thvoid]

Matching 4090 in RT? Isn't it more likely to match it in raster than in RT?

Eh? Article says near XTX level. Which was (arguably) between 4080 and 4090 in raster.

 

[JustBenching]

Eh? Article says near XTX level. Which was (arguably) between 4080 and 4090 in raster.

Is furmark a raster test or just a synthetic that throws a score at the end?

 

[Vya Domus]

Unless RT is fixed (yawn), and matches 4090 level (doubt it).

Lol, not even the 5080 matches a 4090 in RT and people expect this card to do that for 700$.

 

[rv8000]

Is furmark a raster test or just a synthetic that throws a score at the end?

I don’t think it matters to be honest, every synthetic benchmarks proves to be rather useless as it doesn’t translate to actual game performance.

 

[ThomasK]

Lol, not even the 5080 matches a 4090 in RT and people expect this card to do that for 700$.

The people who aren't actually going to buy this card, expect a lot from it. Let's just put it that way.

 

[Daven]

Just another piece to the puzzle.

Wait for AMDs numbers on Feb 28 and independent reviews on Mar 5. No matter what AMD or anyone else says, RDNA4 competes against the 5060, 5060Ti, 5070 and 5070Ti. Buying any Blackwell cards above MSRP is crazy but having a budget below $1k for a GPU and not waiting to see RDNA4 review results is even crazier especially when those results are less than two weeks away.

 

[JustBenching]

Lol, not even the 5080 matches a 4090 in RT and people expect this card to do that for 700$.

But the 5080 is an underspecced piece of crap that should have been a 5060 (or a 5060ti at best). The 9070xt will surely be faster than that, no?

 

[Gooigi's Ex]

How nice…

I don’t believe until 3rd party reviews. Again this is too good to be true and Nvidia is messing up real bad. This is a golden opportunity for AMD(and Intel if they get their act together) but I have severe doubts.

 

[alwayssts]

I mean, at close to 7900XTX performance, this number of years after, they can't charge more than $700*. Unless RT is fixed (yawn), and matches 4090 level (doubt it).

* Edit - Yeah - they'll charge what they want, but in the rational universe (which is disappearing ever time I check the news), it shouldn't be.

Well, again...It's all relative.

Do I expect N31 level of raster? Not how I judge it (which is absolute/oc performance and accounting for VRAM limitations).

But that's not the point.

Is it >45TF/>12GB and at least comp PPC RT as nvidia, with the ability to upscale w/o having the aforementioned compute limit being breached (meaning 45TF after up-scale and as much free ram as possible)?

Because that's what matters. It is the first thing; "probably" the later. At least potentially when overclocking.

Because of that, it can now be compared on a similar level to nVIDIA and their 17 or so cards that aren't a 4090/5090 and aren't irrelevant, like the 4090 12GB that's coming pretty soon...

...and not in some weird "but raster/but RT" way, as we do. In a "can it run [x] resolution and/or [x] resolution upscaled and/or RT and/or up-scaled RT with 60fps mins while still looking okay" -sorta way.

I stand by that I don't care which card runs <60fps better. You can keep that shit.

nVIDIA says that's worth $750. I say it's worth about the same as a 7800xt; maybe about five fiddy most.

But que sera, sera.

Just another piece to the solve

 

[Legacy-ZA]

AMD; Don't screw this up, this is it, your moment to win hearts and minds.

Remember Ryzen, look where you are now on the CPU front, release good performance/value and people will adore you for it.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

But the 5080 is an underspecced piece of crap that should have been a 5060 (or a 5060ti at best). The 9070xt will surely be faster than that, no?

"This generation of Nvidia gpu is utter crap" AMD fans .....

When AMD releases something that is slightly worse for 10% less money

Amd fans....

While I agree this Nvidia generation is pretty meh being happy about a competing gpu that is kinda just the same cracks me up. I'd love for AMD to prove me wrong and supply an ungodly amount at a decent MSRP but let's be real the MSRP is likely to be just as fake as Nvidia's.

This generation is quickly turning into the I really needed a new gpu and these are the cards I was dealt should have bought two years ago and at least got 4 years out of it.....

The sad reality is you use to be able to look at the flagship spend half 1 generation the other half the next generation and be better off had I done that I would have gotten the crappy AF 4070ti 12G and now I would be looking at the shit show that is the 5070ti vs just buying a 4090 2 years ago like I did.

AMD; Don't screw this up, this is it, your moment to win hearts and minds.

Remember Ryzen, look where you are now on the CPU front, release good performance/value and people will adore you for it.

At launch unless AMD supplies an ungodly amount it likely won't matter what they price it at. Lets say the 9070XT is a banger at 500 usd well AIB/Distributors will just jack up the price but at least they will look good and if they have an ok supply of reference models from their own store probably golden.

Let's be real though it's AMD it's going to be 650+ and likely closer to 800 usd at retail just undercutting the 5070TI and AMD fans will eat it up at least initially.

I don't think I've ever seen a more blatantly fake MSRP since the 1080/2080ti outside of a pandemic/crypto boom at least and as long as AMD doesn't copy that part of Nvidia's gameplan I guess it's a win by default.

 

[JustBenching]

"This generation of Nvidia gpu is utter crap" AMD fans .....

When AMD releases something that is slightly worse for 10% less money

Amd fans....

While I agree this Nvidia generation is pretty meh being happy about a competing gpu that is kinda just the same cracks me up. I'd love for AMD to prove me wrong and supply an ungodly amount at a decent MSRP but let's be real the MSRP is likely to be just as fake as Nvidia's.

So you don't think the 9070xt is going to beat the crap out of the 5080 (that should have been a 5060ti)?

 

[oxrufiioxo]

So you don't think the 9070xt is going to beat the crap out of the 5080 (that should have been a 5060ti)?

It will be an ok generational improvement over the 7800XT likely 30-40% hopefully more in RT 18 months later the problem is AMD is likely to price it significantly higher. Even at 650... You'd be paying 30% more for that privilege


That's just GPUs in 2025 personally both gpu makers should do whatever they think would sell and that seems like for now a 900 usd 5070ti and probably a 7800XT successor that isn't much cheaper.

 

[bug]

Anyone noticed 7800XT scoring 5,300-5,600 in the first screen capture and 5,000 in the second?

 

[Bobaganoosh]

Rumors were that it would be roughly 7900XT level raster and 4080 level RT. There's no way it would be the same as 7900XTX in Raster and 4090 in RT. It likely won't even be on the same level as 7900XTX in Raster considering the specs. They have been fiddling with the power levels, drivers, and price constantly since RTX 5000 series launched so we'll see how much they can wring from what was supposed to be an upper-mid-level card from the get-go. It was never intended to compete with RTX xx80 level cards and the only way it might even come close is because Nvidia launched a snoozefest this gen (from a performance perspective)...if you even consider this paper launch a real launch.

 

[Sir Beregond]

If the rumors are correct and they try for $750 and $650 for the 9070 XT and 9070, they would have squandered their opportunity. I think $600 and $450 will directly make the 5070 and 5070 Ti look completely stoopid, and then they have the 9060-series for the sub $400 market. I really want to see AMD not squander this.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

If the rumors are correct and they try for $750 and $650 for the 9070 XT and 9070, they would have squandered their opportunity. I think $600 and $450 will directly make the 5070 and 5070 Ti look completely stoopid, and then they have the 9060-series for the sub $400 market. I really want to see AMD not squander this.

I got my popcorn ready for the 28th regardless.

 

[alwayssts]

When AMD releases something that is pretty much the same, but for 30% less MSRP but actually really goddamn 50-100%+ percent less because artificial scarcity, price-fixing, and AIBs trying to claw back margin from the competing supplier ----

Rational homosapians, some whom literally could not afford that level or performance and/or level of features before [which is important to note *what AMD does; bring new affordability to a segment*], but I guess we call "AMD fans":

Fix'd it fer ya 'there, chief.

Look, like I said, it might be over-priced at launch to sucker early adopters and/or people that can't find their beloved green fairy box they may have preferred. That might happen, I dunno.

It really might. AMD does stupid (they think are opportunistic) things sometimes. And always fail (because bad reviews are forever) when they do. Even 'meh' reviews hurt AMD. They survive on positive reviews.

By that, I mean W1zard reviews where he doesn't compare them to a clearly inferior product.

When their prices are high, though, they drop to prices they should have started with real quick.

But if it's not overpriced at launch, I am going to fucking laugh.

For AMD/ATi will have done the literal thing they have also done literally half a dozen times, if not more, over the decades, some in a very similar sitch (expensive competition and expected to be similar).

And they've ALWAYS been affordable. Every single time. When they haven't been at launch they always quickly end up that way. Every. Single. Time. Some people don't remember literal history very well.

When those prices do happen, one way or another, as they always quickly do, I will have nothing other to say than people literally got tricked into this again (thinking AMD will keep a high price) every single time.

It NEVER, barring some kind of weird fluke like a boom/shortage, happens. They always settle into a decent price relatively quickly.

Sometimes I think AMD likes to play with peoples' expectations, and in reality that does make sense (as then their real prices are less 'meh' but appear more a 'steal'), but some people are just real, real, 'forgetful'.

 

[bug]

If the rumors are correct and they try for $750 and $650 for the 9070 XT and 9070, they would have squandered their opportunity. I think $600 and $450 will directly make the 5070 and 5070 Ti look completely stoopid, and then they have the 9060-series for the sub $400 market. I really want to see AMD not squander this.

I mean, we can all hope, but when was the last time AMD significantly undercut Nvidia on price/perf?

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Fix'd it fer ya 'there, chief.

Look, like I said, it might be over-priced at launch to sucker early adopters and/or people that can't find their beloved green fairy box they may have preferred. That might happen, I dunno.

It really might. AMD does stupid (they think are opportunistic) things sometimes. And always fail (because bad reviews are forever) when they do. Even 'meh' reviews hurt AMD. They survive on positive reviews.

By that, I mean W1zard reviews where he doesn't compare them to a clearly inferior product.

When their prices are high, though, they drop to prices they should have started with real quick.

But if it's not overpriced at launch, I am going to fucking laugh.

For AMD/ATi will have done the literal thing they have also done literally half a dozen times, if not more, over the decades, some in a very similar sitch (expensive competition and expected to be similar).

And they've ALWAYS been affordable. Every single time. When they haven't been at launch they always quickly end up that way. Every. Single. Time. Some people don't remember literal history very well.

When those prices do happen, one way or another, as they always quickly do, I will have nothing other to say than people literally get tricked into this again (thinking AMD will keep a high price) every single time.

It NEVER, barring some kind of weird fluke like a boom/shortage, happens. They always settle into a decent price relatively quickly.

Sometimes I think AMD likes to play with peoples' expectations, but some people are just real, real, 'forgetful'. I hope they that don't have to make a living off predicting the future price of computer hardware.

If they do, they might not be a Steve.

I would love for them to hit this one out of the park they just almost never do.


I was only pointing out they general release slightly worse products at a discount and for some reason that 10% of the market thinks they are their lord and savior both companies suck @$$ for different reasons it's just comes down to which one suck less @$$ in a given generation at whatever price a consumer chooses to afford....

While it's nice for some that AMD gpu's tank in price it would be nice if they just got pricing right from the start for once I mean they did have 35-40% of the gpu market at one time when their head wasn't so far up their %#%$*.

 

[JustBenching]

I mean, we can all hope, but when was the last time AMD significantly undercut Nvidia on price/perf?

2006 I believe