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AMD Mentions Sub-$700 Pricing for Radeon RX 9070 GPU Series, Looks Like NV Minus $50 Again

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"-50", lmao people still thinking that RTX 50 series sell at msrp...

Wait for the presentation and reviews, leaks are often accurate, but we don't know the final price, we don't know the final performance figure, early drivers and optimization can depict a wrong picture of the performance profile (and it has been the case a lot of times in the past)


If it's powerful, if it's ACTUALLY selling at msrp, if stocks are better than nvidia, than chances are it will sell out pretty quickly

Now, I am someone who has an Nvidia GPU, I know AMD will mess it up but not to the extent I read here lol
 
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Either way Nvidia is holding consumer stock back to keep pricing high, they made MSRP claims and didn't stick to it, and the tech media is going along with fake MSRP's.

Wrong.

There is no stock, as explained, they just produce less to make room for A100 and H100 chips. They don't care about keeping pricing high because gamers now represent barely 10% of their revenue. They are much less profitable than AI.

The selling price of RTX 50X0 is not higher than MSRP because of Nvidia either. The price is inflated at the AIB and the retailer's level.
 
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True, but AMD being a business doesn't have to hand out GPU's for free either, Nvidia pushing prices up is the reason the market is a mess.

And you can thank Nvidia for pushing pricing up that high over the past 10 years.

Either way Nvidia is holding consumer stock back to keep pricing high, they made MSRP claims and didn't stick to it, and the tech media is going along with fake MSRP's.

what kind of weird logic is this? Nvidia takes all the blame, when AMD has an inferior product and just takes 50usd off their pricing. And worst they actively wait to see how much Nvidia charges to do their pricing.
Sure it's all on Nvidia :roll:
 
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So many cry babies expecting AMD to basically give away GPUs for nothing. :banghead:
 
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Damn, I just miss the good old days when AMD fans were livid at a $699 GTX 1080 Ti.
 
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Oof. I am statistically a wealthy European household but there's simply no way im going to pay more than 300 euro for a GPU. As an adult there's less time to game and I don't care about getting a 700 Euro card if I'm drowning in work for the next 6 months. Guess I'll stick with my 3060 ti forever

I can't understand why AMD held back review and the release apparently by weeks if they are simply going to repeat the Nvidia -50 strategy *again* which hasn't worked in their favor in the past.
 
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So many cry babies expecting AMD to basically give away GPUs for nothing. :banghead:
Ppls just want to get everything dirt cheap, lot of whining about prices.

i dont care if 9070XT cost 500 or 800, i buy one if i want that kind of performance, same goes whit Nvidia Gpus and prices.
Also all GPU are optional,we can life whitout them

If whiners dont have money, they can buy used GPU,like Gtx970 30$ or something :)
 
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They don't care about keeping pricing high because gamers now represent barely 10% of their revenue. They are much less profitable than AI.
That much is obvious since Nvidia combined their gaming revenue into gaming & AI, so Jensen can claim they have record profit on gaming cards
The selling price of RTX 50X0 is not higher than MSRP because of Nvidia either. The price is inflated at the AIB and the retailer's level.
I keep seeing it but have yet to see proof of the mark ups all being at the AIB and retailer level.
However the AIBs have to make some profit, we seen what happened to EVGA went they lost money on the 30 series, retailers are going take advantage of low stock as well.
what kind of weird logic is this? Nvidia takes all the blame, when AMD has an inferior product and just takes 50usd off their pricing. And worst they actively wait to see how much Nvidia charges to do their pricing.
Sure it's all on Nvidia :roll:
What kind of logic is putting all the blame on AMD? I always see people blaming the competition for what Nvidia is charging, but then they go ahead and buy Nvidia anyway.
And yes AMD being the competition will wait and see what the market leader charges, it's why Nvidia having a near monopoly is bad and no different than the near monopoly Intel used to have with CPU's.
Closer to 5080 Lol haha ,dont try to start a hype train..

9070XT is 2% slower than 4080
A 9070XT 2% slower still puts it around 5070Ti level.
 
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Oof. I am statistically a wealthy European household but there's simply no way im going to pay more than 300 euro for a GPU. As an adult there's less time to game and I don't care about getting a 700 Euro card if I'm drowning in work for the next 6 months. Guess I'll stick with my 3060 ti forever

I can't understand why AMD held back review and the release apparently by weeks if they are simply going to repeat the Nvidia -50 strategy *again* which hasn't worked in their favor in the past.
Yes Gpus is totaly optional, no need to buy anything..

i usualy pay 400$ because i sold old one 400$ discount afther 2y of usage
 
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$700 probably means £700. And if it launches for £700 then just lol. I've seen the 7900 XTX for £613 new.
 
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That much is obvious since Nvidia combined their gaming revenue into gaming & AI, so Jensen can claim they have record profit on gaming cards

I keep seeing it but have yet to see proof of the mark ups all being at the AIB and retailer level.
However the AIBs have to make some profit, we seen what happened to EVGA went they lost money on the 30 series, retailers are going take advantage of low stock as well.

What kind of logic is putting all the blame on AMD? I always see people blaming the competition for what Nvidia is charging, but then they go ahead and buy Nvidia anyway.
And yes AMD being the competition will wait and see what the market leader charges, it's why Nvidia having a near monopoly is bad and no different than the near monopoly Intel used to have with CPU's.

A 9070XT 2% slower still puts it around 5070Ti level.
From what I've seen, Blackwell overclocks like crazy, too. Feel like NVIDIA's intentionally leaving a lot of performance on the table.

AMD doing a Ryzen with their GPUs is how they change things, not chasing prices. They can do it at any time, they just knowingly push prices up along with NVIDIA. If it were five years ago it'd be one thing, but at this point I think they know what they're doing if these prices are true. I'd even argue they're equally to blame.
 
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I'm already including tax saying $700 is £700. Since $700 is actually £552.
 
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That much is obvious since Nvidia combined their gaming revenue into gaming & AI, so Jensen can claim they have record profit on gaming cards
There's no mystery here, it's all public.

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Nvidia is not holding any stock for gamers to raise prices. They don't have any because in the last 4 years, they went from gamer-centric to AI centric. That's why we have no real improvement from the RTX 40x0 to the RTX 50X0 generation, and that's why prices are mechanically rising in spite of MSRP. It's because of production shortage. They no longer care about the gamer's market, and are only releasing something to keep us around.
 
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But not 5080
The original post mentioned a ~10% OC over the standard 9070XT, it would get quite close I reckon.
I do believe AMD should just release a stupid OC variant to compete with the 5080 and call it a day in the higher end of the market. Let AIB get creative (and expensive) with it and still offer price sensitive GPU for the main market.
 
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another fun fact: 90% of gamers

84% of gamers buy pre-builds.
Pre-builds is a strongarming galore for Intel and nVidia.

AMD got to 30%+ share in CPUs largely due to Intel's shortages.
Intel is GAINING MARKET SHARE at the moment.
It is not about AMD having great products.

Steam shows 16.5% of the market using AMD GPUs, while 75% are on Nv. That is basically 20% vs 80% split and again it's not something that would change without moving OEMs.


The "console" kind of pre-buuilds are nearly 100% AMD.
 
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I don't know why the title is reinforcing the nv minus $50 meme based on a rumour, especially 3 days before we get official info. I think it's poor.
 
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I don't know why the title is reinforcing the nv minus $50 meme based on a rumour, especially 3 days before we get official info. I think it's poor.
Controversy generates more engagement than positive stuff. Posting something like "The RX 9070 XT is expected to cost 40% less than the current market price of the competing 5070 Ti" would have the same impact, but taking jabs at AMD is already standard practice. :p

Moreover, it's best to wait for reviews, even if the leaks seem reliable. There's no harm in keeping expectations in check. Plus, By then Jensen should have found the missing ROPs. :cool:
 

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