AMD Ryzen 9 9955HX3D Laptop CPU With 3D V-Cache Tops Performance Charts in Early Benchmarks

[mkppo]

No, your post isn't entirely factually accurate, far from it. Just looking at the post you just linked, your efficiency claims go literally against the link you just posted. The intel part is both faster and more efficient than the 7945hx 3d in the ST test suite. In the MT test the 13980hx is faster than the 3d but they don't have the intel part at all in the efficiency chart, they only have the 13950hx for whatever reason. But I highly doubt that the x3d is consuming half the power, since the 3d is at 160 watts, you are now claiming that the intel laptop would be drawing 320 watts....ayokay bud.

Oh it was. The post you quoted, I said 7945HX consumes much less power, performs roughly the same in MT, faster in games. All of that is factually accurate. Honestly no one cares about single core power efficiency in a DTR. If you want to go into semantics, sure intel barely edges out in ST efficiency. But it gets destroyed in MT efficiency. Honestly I don't even know why anyone would care about ST power efficiency in a DTR but whatever.

13950HX is pretty much the same as 13980HX so might as well take that data point. And here's a snip from the first paragraph "but its efficiency was the real star of the show. While the Intel CPUs consume upwards of 170 watts, the Ryzen 9 7945HX offers comparable performance while only using 80 - 100 watts". Not sure where you are getting your 320w from, but dude have a look at the data you don't need to wildly extrapolate anything.

The graphs are there to see. Have a look at power scaling which makes intel look even worse.

 

[Tek-Check]

AMD still has some work to gain mobile dominance like they have on desktop, they have iGPU performance locked down though.

There is no evidence that AMD is looking for any dominance. They have been gradually, slowly and incrementally increasing market share in all segments over last 7 years. Nobody knows if that results in nominal 'dominance' in next 7 years or so. It may be simply a side effect of what's happening in different market segments.

They do not care about any dominance. They care about delivering competitive products and good execution on as many products as possible. That's their focus. This strategy has so far worked pretty damn well.

 

[JustBenching]

ST test suite? Right, i probably didn't specify MT. Honestly I don't even know why anyone would care about ST power efficiency in a DTR. Anyway..

13950HX is pretty much the same as 13980HX so might as well take that data point. And here's a snip from the first paragraph "but its efficiency was the real star of the show. While the Intel CPUs consume upwards of 170 watts, the Ryzen 9 7945HX offers comparable performance while only using 80 - 100 watts"

The graphs are there to see. Have a look at power scaling which makes intel look even worse

Again, you are ignoring data from your own link. Just scroll down a bit and you will see some iso comparison tables with every CPU at the same power. The HX is 24% faster at the same power (100w) as the intel part. That's a good result, but nowhere near your claimed double. You are off the mark by more than 400%. That's not a small error, that's an "i just got fired" type of error.

 

[Tek-Check]

I believe part of AMD's problem is chip supply isn't it? It doesn't matter if they make superior mobile chips if none of the OEMs can buy them

Not correct. I posted a graph with shifting market share in last 7 years. Take a look.

 

[mkppo]

Again, you are ignoring data from your own link. Just scroll down a bit and you will see some iso comparison tables with every CPU at the same power. The HX is 24% faster at the same power (100w) as the intel part. That's a good result, but nowhere near your claimed double. You are off the mark by more than 400%. That's not a small error, that's an "i just got fired" type of error.

bruhhh

Slightly higher performance at near about half the power. Not sure what else I need to provide to you..

 

[JustBenching]

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Yeah, that's exactly the table I was talking about. 32977 / 26507 is literally 24%. You claimed a 400% higher number than that...

This is from mathew moniz's channel, one of the biggest ones for laptop testing. I wonder where did the efficiency go



The below is from tom'shardware test, again the 7945hx 3d had the shortest battery life out of the 3 tested Intel laptops

In our testing, the Strix Scar 17 X3D had the shortest battery life among its competitors




Let's check ultrabookreviews




The 7945hx 3d isn't made for efficiency since the intel competitor lasts a lot more.


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Do we really need to say more? Let's just hope the 9955hx 3d is gonna fix the power draw cause battery life makes this a no go for a lot of people.

 

[Tek-Check]

Only extra production over what they are contractually obligated is bid on. In addition, the date we have contradicts a gradual increase: https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/AMD/amd/revenue

Nothing contradicts with anything.

Given that AMD primarily sells chips, those charts and your statements cannot both be correct. You cannot see those large increases in revenue without AMD also securing large increases in supply.

Charts are correct and corroborated by multiple agencies that know more than you and me together, as it's their job to analyze market data.
By the way, data are published and publicly available. You can check it on your own. You don't need to believe me.

"You cannot see those large increases in revenue without AMD also securing large increases in supply"
AMD has just secured a deal with Oracle to supply over 30,000 MI300 mega-chips, those that can also be found in the most powerful computer in the world EL Capitan. This is what mostly drives their revenues, data center. Read their last quarterly report to find out more.

And again, looks at the instances in which you see AMD product unavailability. You see it with the 9000 series where AMD is outselling last gen by 10x and in the 9800X3D that alone outsells Intel's entire lineup. You aren't seeing it in laptops.

In laptops, they have also gradually increased market share over the years. Look into the graph I posted.

AMD doesn't have unlimited supply sure but I see no evidence that supports the other guy's claim that AMD doesn't have the throughput to increase it's marketshare in the lapotop space at a more rapid pace. There is definitely an element of the old boys club going on between the OEM and Intel.

Sure. Intel still has a grip on many OEMs but this is gradually changing. Look at HP and Dell. This year, for the first time, they have more products with AMD chips than ever before. Ask for reasons why and read tech press to find out more.

 

[JustBenching]

You see it with the 9000 series where AMD is outselling last gen by 10x and in the 9800X3D that alone outsells Intel's entire lineup. You aren't seeing it in laptops.

It doesn't. You are looking at DIY sales. The 9800x 3d is a drop in the ocean compared to OEM. There is absolutely no way AMD has the capacity to sell anywhere near as many chips as Intel. Intel is selling something like 80m+ CPUs a year. How much do you reckon the 9800x 3d has sold? 50k? 100k units? 200k maybe?

 

[mkppo]

Yeah, that's exactly the table I was talking about. 32977 / 26507 is literally 24%. You claimed a 400% higher number than that...

Do we really need to say more? Let's just hope the 9955hx 3d is gonna fix the power draw cause battery life makes this a no go for a lot of people.

I think the issue stems from the fact that you're saying it's 24% faster at 100w while I said it matches 13980HX at near about half the power. Neither are false, because at their highest TDP configurations it is 3.4% faster while consuming 58.8% of power. We can go on about it being 33.7% faster at 55w but it's pointless. The laptop and battery life comparisons have too many variables and aren't really related to my point either so i'm not going to dive into that. DTR's are mostly plugged in so I was comparing it from the lens of comparing desktop CPU's.

The power draw has no bearing on dragon range's sales or the design wins it had. It's a rare product within a niche segment with only the strix scar 17 having any availability. The market it caters to doesn't care much about idle power tbh. If you want the fastest gaming CPU in a laptop form, 7945HX had a wide lead and 9945HX will widen that gap. Question is whether more than one laptop will carry it

 

[lightofhonor]

My 7945HX3D gets 1861 on Cinebench 2024 and 2957/18349 in Geekbench 6. So this chip is about 8-12% faster.

Not bad, honestly.

 

[Tek-Check]

My 7945HX3D gets 1861 on Cinebench 2024 and 2957/18349 in Geekbench 6. So this chip is about 8-12% faster.

Not bad, honestly.

It looks like C24 favours more 275HX than 9955HX and R23 the other way around

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