NVIDIA Admits to Data Corruption Issues with 790i Chipset

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

This is something similar to the B2 Phenom's TLB bug..

But unlike the TLB bug it is more prominent if i read correctly.

 

[eidairaman1]

TLB was affected like every other part, *50 line fixed it for entire lineup.

 

[btarunr]

not quite correct, the nf500 is the nf4 chipset renamed the 550-570-590 chipsets are acctualy based on the ULI chipsets nvidia bought in the nf4 days,

No, NVidia acquired ULi after NF 550-570-590. The following chipsets are touted to be based on ULi chipsets:

500, 500 SLI, 520, 520 LE, 560, 560 SLI.


So let's say NVidia screwed up bigger time than AMD (TLB bug fiasco). Since 790i Ultra SLI is meant for extreme OC and they advertise it as the 'fastest motherboard', such a serious error as data corruption will kill it. Nobody in the right mind who wants extreme OC would buy NF 790i if SLI isn't needed. Instead, extreme OC'ers would jump to X48 + 2x HD3870 X2......'smarter choice'

 

[eidairaman1]

i wouldnt be surprised if the 780i overclocks higher than the 790 just like how the 865PE was back in the day

No, NVidia acquired ULi after NF 550-570-590. The following chipsets are touted to be based on ULi chipsets:

500, 500 SLI, 520, 520 LE, 560, 560 SLI.


So let's say NVidia screwed up bigger time than AMD (TLB bug fiasco). Since 790i Ultra SLI is meant for extreme OC and they advertise it as the 'fastest motherboard', such a serious error as data corruption will kill it. Nobody in the right mind who wants extreme OC would buy NF 790i if SLI isn't needed. Instead, extreme OC'ers would jump to X48 + 2x HD3870 X2......'smarter choice'

 

[Sh3ngLong]

I just finished building my EVGA 790i system this morning. Fortunately I've just been benchmarking my QX9650 at stock speed. I guess I'll wait for further news before I do any OC'ing.

 

[btarunr]

i wouldnt be surprised if the 780i overclocks higher than the 790 just like how the 865PE was back in the day

Yeah but 780i is DDR2...no 'elitist' OC'er would settle for DDR2, not to forget, 'official' lack of FSB 1600 support for 780i SLI.

By 'elitist' I'm referring to that segment of buyers that splurge with components, the target buyers of boards based on P35 (DDR3), X38/X48, 790i Ultra SLI, etc.

For the price of a DDR2 780i SLI, users would much rather settle for DDR3 boards based on P35 or the DDR3 X38 board made by Intel, DX38BT.

 

[hat]

I think Nvidia should just stop making motherboards and stick to making video cards. Let Intel handle the chipset work for Intel boards, they seem to be good at it. Let AMD handle the AMD boards, they are good at it as well.

 

[eidairaman1]

like how it is on the X38?

ya thats whats odd, but Majority of overclockers are still on DDR2, DDR3 is still yet to get there, I think my next rig maybe DDR3 but who knows.

 

[Dia01]

I have the ASUS 790i

I have crashed Vista

I have crashed XP 2 times now

I hope there is a fix soon, it kinda makes you with a 500 dollar motherboard.

I have trust that it will be fixed....

AHHHHHHH! NO! NO! NO! That is not good news! I want good news only!

 

[Solaris17]

i have an NF4 maybe im lucky but i havent suffered data curruption nor have i ever had chipset driver problems with it than again i dont run raid...for some reason i feel higher load times out weighs loosing all my data when a drive decided to fail....no thanks...so im not sure what you guys are talking about but atleast they admitted the problem every chipset has its good and bads imho and experiance

Intel chipsets dont let me OC much

ATI chipsets are rpetty stable

Nvidia chipsets let me OC till my proc burns personal luck and opinion here though and seeing as thats alot of what ppl are posting im not sure personal luck and opinions really matter that much here we could argue all day about which ones better but who cares if each one fixes its problems? i mean some like intel or ati or nvidia but the base of the arguments stems NOT from weather or not weve used them all but rather from the experiance we have had with them which is based off of personal expertice steepping batch and revision of chipset...so i dont think any of us can talk much smack with all the variables considered.

 

[Solaris17]

Yeah but 780i is DDR2...no extreme OC'er would settle for DDR2, not to forget, 'official' lack of FSB 1600 support for 780i SLI.

i run DDR2 i consider myself pretty extreme....i dont really think thats fair...if i remember correctly WR yet to be broken were had on DDR2 and if i do some quick system spec browsing some of the best clockers on this forum are still on the DDR2 bandwagon..

 

[GSG-9]

Yeah but 780i is DDR2...no extreme OC'er would settle for DDR2

I disagree with that, Im not extreme by any means, I dont even have my TEC hooked up, but I dont personally know a single over clocker who has implemented DDR3, and from the people I 'know' online. They dont see huge gains from it. This year is the year people will be switching to ddr3, as prices fall and the tech matures. So far its been an early adopters item.

 

[btarunr]

i run DDR2 i consider myself pretty extreme....i dont really think thats fair...if i remember correctly WR yet to be broken were had on DDR2 and if i do some quick system spec browsing some of the best clockers on this forum are still on the DDR2 bandwagon..

By 'extreme' I was referring to the likes of FUGGER or k|ngp|n, etc. Those dudes with copper pots, TEC setups, cylinders of L. Nitrogen handy. In other words, the target audience/users of 790i SLI / X38/X48 / 790 FX, etc.

 

[Solaris17]

o okm i thought you were doubting skillz of the ppl on this forum and that might offend a bunch of ppl who worked damn hard to get like 4ghz etc...not A PERSONAL ATTACK MIND YOU BTA your on my friends list just lookin out. as for fugger and kingpin ya those guys are in a diff league to me...extremists are ppl like trt and pauling who push crazy limits fugger kingpin and some of those guys...ELITESTS

 

[btarunr]

Whoa. I'm not offending anyone. I should have used the term Xtreme OC'ers instead.

 

[Solaris17]

well i know what you were trying to say but OC'r pride can get in the way if it was a said a little diff i my self would have been like wtf r u serious? because i know i tried hella hard to get my rig were it is now...im just saying that some ppl who have just gotten their rig stable or spent the last 6months to get 3ghz or get thair ram past 1000mhz and went without a ciggarette for more than 4 hours might see it a bit diff

 

[btarunr]

*sigh* edited.

It's over an year since DDR3 is in the market as a technology, we can't brand it 'immature' at this point. A technology being expensive at a given point in time isn't indicative of it being 'immature'.

 

[Solaris17]

*sigh* edited.

It's over an year since DDR3 is in the market as a technology, we can't brand it 'immature' at this point. A technology being expensive at a given point in time isn't indicative of it being 'immature'.

......yes

 

[DaedalusHelios]

well i know what you were trying to say but OC'r pride can get in the way if it was a said a little diff i my self would have been like wtf r u serious? because i know i tried hella hard to get my rig were it is now...im just saying that some ppl who have just gotten their rig stable or spent the last 6months to get 3ghz or get thair ram past 1000mhz and went without a ciggarette for more than 4 hours might see it a bit diff

Cigarettes? Screw that! To expensive. (I am not looter dude or anything but cigs are way to expensive of a habit)

Think of what hardware all those cigarettes could have bought.

 

[Mussels]

Ever since the n-force4 people have found problems with data corruption. This is no isolated incident.

actually it was on the NForce 3 when overclocking with faulty SATA ports... and Nforce 2 had problems with 1T ram timings and crackling sound...


To be honest, i'm dissapointed in Nvidia for the reason that their chipsets just suck. Let intel chipsetsrun SLI already while you fix your hardware.

I just finished building my EVGA 790i system this morning. Fortunately I've just been benchmarking my QX9650 at stock speed. I guess I'll wait for further news before I do any OC'ing.

the problem appears to be high FSB/high ram related, with a Qx you can at least raise the multi and get SOME clocking done

 

[BumbRush]

im still waiting on the nvidiots to say this isnt a problem or the like,,,,,,lol

 

[warhammer]

Reviews get engineered sampled for reviews and we go out and buy them.
We read how good and reliable and how well it OC if you have a Q6600 do not get a 790 until new bios come out.
Build it to the same spec and you cant OC it crashes there driver issues bios issues and corruption issues. We get ripped off.

 

[cdawall]

Lies. I am why you went 580X

no i was leaning tht way i wanted to try out some new ATi cards

This is something similar to the B2 Phenom's TLB bug..

not even close this bug actually shows up when you are using the PC unlike the TLB bug which i have yet to see anyone crash because of

 

[GSG-9]

*sigh* edited.

It's over an year since DDR3 is in the market as a technology, we can't brand it 'immature' at this point. A technology being expensive at a given point in time isn't indicative of it being 'immature'.

$500 DDR3 ram has a Cas Latency of 8. I call that immature, I dont expect it to be 2 like DDR, but I expect it lower than 8. Newer technology that runs faster should not be an excuse to stop aspiring to tighter timings.

 

[Mussels]

DDR2 is a mature technology - its intention was originally 533MHz only (DDR1 meant to stop at 266, for the record)

DDR2 ram has gone from 533Mhz to over 1100 in 'stock' speeds and you can still manage that on CL4 (which is less than original, i beleive the JEDEC standard Is CL5)

DDR3 on the other hand can manage 1800MHz or so stock already at CL8 - its not faster yet although it is competitive, the pricing is just nasty.