ATI RV770 Chip Availability and Release Dates

eidairaman1 · May 17, 2008

candle_86 said:
except Nvidia always cuts down somewhere and releases a slower card, you can bet money Nvidia will be faster at the same price look at 9600GT vs 3870 or 8800GS vs 3850. Total stomp all over midrange for them. And the 9800GX2 is faster per dollar than the 3870x2, Nvidia is set to win agian, they can't loose, G80 was in the works since before G70 ever showed up, who knows how long GT200 has, we know it was GT100 and before that G90 so that gives you an idea. If you want to belive in false hopes be my guest but the glory days of AMD are over, Phenom was a total washout along with the R600 cores, so why should this be any diffrent.

showin your colors as a yellow belley, prepare for the worst dude.

calvary1980 · May 17, 2008

http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/RV770_Preliminary_Performance_Revealed/5782.html

- Christine

btarunr · May 17, 2008

So it does end up beating the...ehm...G92 :shadedshu

imperialreign · May 17, 2008

still looking forward to the trustworthy reviews, though - as much as everything is looking very promising for the ATI camp this generation, we're still only seeing "leaked" specs and performance claims.

Although, I firmly believe this just might be the :nutkick:

that nVidia has been in need of for quite some time, and a great boost to the red camp morale if they pull it off.

mandelore · May 17, 2008

interesting:

"RV770XT will run 1.25X faster than GeForce 9800 GTX"

if true bodes well for the x2 varient

wolf2009 · May 17, 2008

so nvidia will again reign supreme this time. ATI's new chips only 1.25x faster than 9800GTX , will not beat 9800GX2 .

mandelore · May 17, 2008

wolf2009 said:
so nvidia will again reign supreme this time. ATI's new chips only 1.25x faster than 9800GTX , will not beat 9800GX2 .

lol, u daft? thats a 4870 single core vs a double cored card, do the math.

if correct, the 4870X2 will be faster than the 9800GX2 ^^

imperialreign · May 17, 2008

mandelore said:
lol, u daft? thats a 4870 single core vs a double cored card, do the math.

if correct, the 4870X2 will be faster than the 9800GX2 ^^

and if that math is right, it'll pee all over the 9800GX2's parade.

Once nVidia release their new cores this year, I expect to see those running neck and neck, or slightly below ATI's HD4000 series . . . we'll see . . .

mandelore · May 17, 2008

either way very promising lineup from both parties, and certainly something im gonna be upgrading to once actual benchies are out.

Awww... bless.... my poor 2900xt, ill miss it. wonder what ill get for it with a modded bios, DD-29XT waterblock and 24/7 gaming speeds of 910core, 1250 memory (bench 955core)

imperialreign · May 17, 2008

mandelore said:
either way very promising lineup from both parties, and certainly something im gonna be upgrading to once actual benchies are out.

Awww... bless.... my poor 2900xt, ill miss it. wonder what ill get for it with a modded bios, DD-29XT waterblock and 24/7 gaming speeds of 910core, 1250 memory (bench 955core)

don't look at me . . . I'm saving for a 4870x2

mandelore · May 17, 2008

imperialreign said:
don't look at me . . . I'm saving for a 4870x2

lol, thats my target card also

imperialreign · May 17, 2008

mandelore said:
lol, thats my target card also

I'm hoping by the time it's released, ATI will have CrossfireX worked out . . . a 4870x2 and 2 3870s oughta be quite nice :rockout:

(I'm happy now about purchasing a 3 slot board a couple of months ago

)

jbunch07 · May 18, 2008

imperialreign said:
I'm hoping by the time it's released, ATI will have CrossfireX worked out . . . a 4870x2 and 2 3870s oughta be quite nice (I'm happy now about purchasing a 3 slot board a couple of months ago )

i thought cfx would only work with the same series cards...like 3xxx with another 3xxx series and 4xxx with another 4xxx... could be wrong though... i hope i am!
that would be really nice if it would work like that!

eidairaman1 · May 18, 2008

If i was to build a machine now, id have this card in it

http://www.asus.com.tw/products.aspx?l1=2&l2=160&l3=701&l4=0&model=2248&modelmenu=1

[I.R.A]_FBi · May 18, 2008

trt740 said:
yes but the geforce boys are gonna release the 9900gtx and 9900gtx x2 and they will be much faster than the current gpus and I would think they will beat the 4870 and 4870x2 if these chips are 1.25 faster. Still AMD will be king for a few months atleast. The best deal going will be the 3870x2 and 3850x2 both of which are priced near the 9800gtx and much cheaper than the 9800gtx x2. They will drop in price and be very good buys. Anything above a 9800gtx is overkill anyways for the next year. I for one am considering buying a 3850x2 this week it should still beat a 4870 and be near the same price. The 3850x2 is about 1.25 faster than a 9800gtx I would think.

i thought there was to be no x2 from nvidio

imperialreign · May 18, 2008

jbunch07 said:
i thought cfx would only work with the same series cards...like 3xxx with another 3xxx series and 4xxx with another 4xxx... could be wrong though... i hope i am!
that would be really nice if it would work like that!

IDK, I might be thinking of Hybrid Crossfire - but, IIRC, that's exclusive to AMD's chipsets . . . I might be wrong, though. I've heard that ATI do plan to extend the CrossfireX solution to other GPUs, we'll have to wait and see . . .

I kinda figured that we'd have support out of the box with the new cards . . . might just be wishful thinking again, though :ohwell:

candle_86 · May 18, 2008

if Nvidia does what they claim it does, the GT200 is supposed to be double the raw shader and TMU power of the current lineup and hopefully at least 1.5x the rops. If the GT200 rumors are right, AMD is screwed, think 8800Ultra x2.5 in one core. The current is 480 Tglops the GT200 is supposed to be over 1tf according to Nvidia, and we all know how these preview's are going AMD 1tf is competing a a 480 gF card nicly.

tkpenalty · May 18, 2008

trt740 said:
yes but the geforce boys are gonna release the 9900gtx and 9900gtx x2 and they will be much faster than the current gpus and I would think they will beat the 4870 and 4870x2 if these chips are 1.25 faster. Still AMD will be king for a few months atleast. The best deal going will be the 3870x2 and 3850x2 both of which are priced near the 9800gtx and much cheaper than the 9800gtx x2. They will drop in price and be very good buys. Anything above a 9800gtx is overkill anyways for the next year. I for one am considering buying a 3850x2 this week it should still beat a 4870 and be near the same price. The 3850x2 is about 1.25 faster than a 9800gtx I would think.

No more new 9 series GPUs mate. Stop misleading people. The flagship card is a single core GTX280. No 9xxx stuff anymore. Moreover nobody has proper performance figures on it yet. 9800GTX Overkill? :roll:

Try DX10 mode in Crysis + AA. I hope that will wake you up.

candle_86 said:
if Nvidia does what they claim it does, the GT200 is supposed to be double the raw shader and TMU power of the current lineup and hopefully at least 1.5x the rops. If the GT200 rumors are right, AMD is screwed, think 8800Ultra x2.5 in one core. The current is 480 Tglops the GT200 is supposed to be over 1tf according to Nvidia, and we all know how these preview's are going AMD 1tf is competing a a 480 gF card nicly.

Double the amount of TMUs/etc won't give a GPU double the performance. Architectual efficiency will. I don't want to give another lecture here...

candle_86 · May 18, 2008

tkpenalty said:
No more new 9 series GPUs mate. Stop misleading people. The flagship card is a single core GTX280. No 9xxx stuff anymore. Moreover nobody has proper performance figures on it yet. 9800GTX Overkill? Try DX10 mode in Crysis + AA. I hope that will wake you up.

Double the amount of TMUs/etc won't give a GPU double the performance. Architectual efficiency will. I don't want to give another lecture here...

it will give close, im very familiar with how these things work. If they double the units and all are interergrated into one die the overhead of talking over a bus to use them is gone ect. ITs like the diffrence between the 6800LE and 6800GT

trt740 · May 18, 2008

tkpenalty said:
No more new 9 series GPUs mate. Stop misleading people. The flagship card is a single core GTX280. No 9xxx stuff anymore. Moreover nobody has proper performance figures on it yet. 9800GTX Overkill? Try DX10 mode in Crysis + AA. I hope that will wake you up.

Double the amount of TMUs/etc won't give a GPU double the performance. Architectual efficiency will. I don't want to give another lecture here...

at what resolution? Also as of now there might not be any plans for a 9900x2 but do you really think that the Geforce crew won't create one? They have a very long track of doing just that. I could care less anyways I'm a AMD guy from way back I hope the new AMD card rocks. Also Crysis is just one game.

Millenia · May 18, 2008

trt740 said:
at what resolution? Also as of now there might not be any plans for a 9900x2 but do you really think that the Geforce crew won't create one? They have a very long track of doing just that. I could care less anyways I'm a AMD guy from way back I hope the new AMD card rocks. Also Crysis is just one game.

I doubt they will make a dual GPU solution of the GT200 for a while since it's most probably a huge power hog and runs hotter than the average volcano

jbunch07 · May 19, 2008

Millenia said:
I doubt they will make a dual GPU solution of the GT200 for a while since it's most probably a huge power hog and runs hotter than the average volcano

lmao thast pretty funny..."hotter than the average volcano" :laugh:

i would have to guess your prob right though...but we will see...but usually they try to make the next chip cooler than the previous...like how the g92 was cooler than the g80.

[I.R.A]_FBi · May 19, 2008

Twie the horsepower neer makes you go down the track half as fast ...

flashstar · May 19, 2008

Both Ati's and Nvidia's cards are rated at 1 Tflop. Nvidia's will get the upper hand though because most high-end games are now programmed with Nvidia in mind but both the R770 and the GT200 should technically have similar performance. I also don't buy the "Nvidia is doubling everything" idea because if that happens then the GT200 will have a lot more power than 1 Tflops.

jbunch07 · May 19, 2008

flashstar said:
Both Ati's and Nvidia's cards are rated at 1 Tflop. Nvidia's will get the upper hand though because most high-end games are now programmed with Nvidia in mind but both the R770 and the GT200 should technically have similar performance. I also don't buy the "Nvidia is doubling everything" idea because if that happens then the GT200 will have a lot more power than 1 Tflops.

not only that it will be double the price! :shadedshu

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