Modder Unlocks Vista Driver Features on Creative Sound Cards

Mussels · Apr 9, 2008

his current problem is that after a reboot, the volume is now about 1/3 what it was when he first got it working..

(for reference, i know him in the rw - my work and his studies just happen to be at different hours, so i cant go around and help him directly)

AsphyxiA · Apr 10, 2008

holy shit!!!!!1 :eek:

its like night and day with these drivers! and 5.1 surround actually works! thanks solaris

pagalms · Apr 10, 2008

BTW if anyone is interested in that Alchemy Universal thing, just drop me a PM and i'll give link (it's on torrent page). Or tell me where i can upload it without registration (3,6MB).

Mussels · Apr 10, 2008

pagalms said:
BTW if anyone is interested in that Alchemy Universal thing, just drop me a PM and i'll give link (it's on torrent page). Or tell me where i can upload it without registration (3,6MB).

feel free to PM me, just dont post any links here or you may get in trouble.

Solaris17 · Apr 10, 2008

AsphyxiA said:
holy shit!!!!!1 its like night and day with these drivers! and 5.1 surround actually works! thanks solaris

your quite welcome.

Mussels · Apr 10, 2008

ah man... i just realised what alchemy universal is. Its not enabling alchemy for the sound cards creative ditched... its for ALL soundcards, from any brand.

So anyone who wants EAX in vista... message pagalms for the link.

mullered07 · Apr 10, 2008

xmountainxlionx said:
all i get is a error saying I do not have the hardware required for the drivers. I guess this dosent support vista 64 and xfi extreme gamer?

same here only i have the xtreme audio which should be supported, is cause im on x64?

Syborfical · Apr 14, 2008

TheGuruStud said:
You wouldn't happen to have his P17 to x-fi audio mod, would you?

I can't seem to find them, since he deleted them.

oh, and the obligatory, kiss my ass creative

I bought my sound card but the drives SUCK undervista

Since i bought the hardware why can't I RUN anysoftware i want

Creatve are run by retards... they could hire one guy to do there work or sue him :S ...

GSG-9 · Apr 14, 2008

theres a whole thread on how they proboly had to disable the features they did..and why this guy was breaching the eula..

tkpenalty · Apr 14, 2008

GSG-9 said:
theres a whole thread on how they proboly had to disable the features they did..and why this guy was breaching the eula..

Ever heard of Creative will release a new soundcard that is the same as the old ones except uses unlocked software?

GSG-9 · Apr 14, 2008

tkpenalty said:
Ever heard of Creative will release a new soundcard that is the same as the old ones except uses unlocked software?

Its no more the same card than a Athlon XP was a Athlon 64/Opteron. Im not going to say its as functional as it should be, but ruminating over the same shit over and over is not going to make your cards get features from creative they legally cant deliver. Hopefully there offical drivers will get better, I personally dont really care. Your asking for software support modern on cards that were already released. If you take away the insentive for the consumer to buy new products by giving the old ones new features you will go out of buessness. You dont see Nvidia rerighting drivers to force older cards to run inn high dx levels. Im sure it can be done by adding another virtual layer to the card, and it probobly would not even peform that bad.

Mussels · Apr 14, 2008

GSG-9 said:
Its no more the same card than a Athlon XP was a Athlon 64/Opteron. Im not going to say its as functional as it should be, but ruminating over the same shit over and over is not going to make your cards get features from creative they legally cant deliver. Hopefully there offical drivers will get better, I personally dont really care. Your asking for software support modern on cards that were already released. If you take away the insentive for the consumer to buy new products by giving the old ones new features you will go out of buessness. You dont see Nvidia rerighting drivers to force older cards to run inn high dx levels. Im sure it can be done by adding another virtual layer to the card, and it probobly would not even peform that bad.

you dont se Nv re-writing drivers to force newer DX levels... true. We also dont see Nv dropping DX9 support from cards in vista, because 'oh you dont have a DX10 card, so you cant have DX9 either'

Its like dropping SSE from the athlon XP, because the A64 could run SSE2. it makes no sense, yet thats what creative did (ditched EAX from all cards not X-fi, even tho its proven they work just fine)

Your comment about a 'virtual layer' and video cards is wrong - they truly were hardware before unified shaders, so therse no way to re-write them. Case in point, the GF FX series which could only do 16 and 32 bit shaders... and when 24 was chosen as teh norm, the cards got raped really hard. If it was possible to fix that, Nv would have.

Scrizz · Apr 14, 2008

F*** Creative!
thx for the heads up

GSG-9 · Apr 14, 2008

Mussels said:
you dont se Nv re-writing drivers to force newer DX levels... true. We also dont see Nv dropping DX9 support from cards in vista, because 'oh you dont have a DX10 card, so you cant have DX9 either'

Its like dropping SSE from the athlon XP, because the A64 could run SSE2. it makes no sense, yet thats what creative did (ditched EAX from all cards not X-fi, even tho its proven they work just fine)

Your comment about a 'virtual layer' and video cards is wrong - they truly were hardware before unified shaders, so therse no way to re-write them. Case in point, the GF FX series which could only do 16 and 32 bit shaders... and when 24 was chosen as teh norm, the cards got raped really hard. If it was possible to fix that, Nv would have.

You can get eax back by downloading alchamy. I will give you I would not want to pay for it.

Thats wrong a virtual layer could be made to emulate. I wont comment on the performance but it can be done, it was done for a long time (90s? before direct x and open gl, wolfenstin 3d?)

FarEast · Apr 14, 2008

anyone have the p17 to xtreme audio mod please send it to me..really need it.. :banghead:

pagalms · Apr 14, 2008

Hmm, i have modded drivers, which turns Audigy Se into "X-Fi" Extreme Audio, but they didn't worked for me. Maybe i have curve_hands.dll installed :confused:

Scrizz · Apr 15, 2008

w00t I have my SB Live!/5.1/7.1/Value/Digital working perfectly in vista thx to Brazilman

Mussels · Apr 15, 2008

I think one of the Xfi drivers is missing - the one that sparked this all, with the dolby encoding

Scrizz · Apr 15, 2008

you should be able to find it after some searching

wolf2009 · Apr 20, 2008

the setup doesn't run for me, any ideas ? i'm using vista 64-bit, have x-fi xtreme music .

Kursah · Apr 20, 2008

You have the same setup as I do then...works great for me!

:toast:

darisimo · May 5, 2008

Hello i have a CT4760 card, but when i installed it to my pc, after 2 or 3 minutes i have a blue screen error. What should i do? Please help.

sinister_steve · Jun 11, 2008

Daniel Kawakami (AKA "Daniel_K

Damn should contact this guy to get some drivers from him...I read he has good drivers for 8800 series on another site for intel mobo,s..steve

Mussels · Jun 11, 2008

darisimo said:
Hello i have a CT4760 card, but when i installed it to my pc, after 2 or 3 minutes i have a blue screen error. What should i do? Please help.

you should read the forum rules and ask that in its own thread.

selway89 · Jun 15, 2008

Anyone got the X-Fi drivers for Vista x64? Wouldnt mind giving them a spin and see what improvements are available. Iv searched the web but can only find the audidgy and live driver packs he created.

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