Bloodbath for AMD at the Stock-Markets, Company Struggles to Survive

Wile E · Jul 13, 2008

cdawall said:
woah now AMD's manufacturing tech is miles ahead of intels! even intel themselves have said there is no way in hell they could have made something as complicated and large as phenom on 65nm. AMD has the best manuf specs of any company right now.

I'm talking about the manufacturing process in use itself, not the chip design. Think it thru here. The smaller the process used, the higher the yields, and the larger the profit margin. Intel has had 45nm on the market for months now, AMD is just stamping out their 45nm cpus. Intel is on the fast track to 32nm, again, something AMD is behind on. AMD manufacturing tech is behind, and it is hurting their profit margins in these price wars.

And Intel said that for good reason. Look at the power usage and heat output of Phenoms compared to the Intel quads. It's not that intel couldn't have put a chip that complicated on a 65nm process, it's that it didn't make any sense to. Thus the reason they waited to build Nehalem on 45nm. If AMD could've manufactured Phenom on a 45nm process to begin with, they would have. But they couldn't, because their manufacturing tech is behind, plain and simple.

Ketxxx · Jul 13, 2008

Jelle Mees said:
Look, in order for AMD to compete with Intel, they have to release CPU's that are as fast or can be as fast when overclocked, and that's not the case. In many shops the Black Edition CPU's are more expensive then the Q6600 and E8400 and they can not be overclocked to the same speeds.

The Phenoms are a joke. Released such a long time after the intel Q CPU's and they are slower and can not be overclocked as high. Sorry. But only a fanboy or a ignorant consumer would go for AMD at this time.

I would love it if AMD was better, they just arent, you know that very well.

I wasn't arguing any of that. Stop being so ignorant yourself. If you care to look at my sys spec, you'll see I'm an intel user :rolleyes:

yogurt_21 · Jul 14, 2008

I wouldn't call a drop from $5.23 to $4.84 or an 8% drop a "bloodbath" more like an resulting drop fram a straving economy. nv's drop from $18 to $12 or 34% was more of a "bloodbath" but the market is bad right now which means predicitons about companies stock are alos bad one right now disney is down, intel is down, ibm is down. I hardly call this news worthy. In fact, you've stolen 5 minutes of my life and I want them back!

Megasty · Jul 14, 2008

yogurt_21 said:
I wouldn't call a drop from $5.23 to $4.84 or an 8% drop a "bloodbath" more like an resulting drop fram a straving economy. nv's drop from $18 to $12 or 34% was more of a "bloodbath" but the market is bad right now which means predicitons about companies stock are alos bad one right now disney is down, intel is down, ibm is down. I hardly call this news worthy. In fact, you've stolen 5 minutes of my life and I want them back!

Its definitely not a bloodbath, more like losing a few fingers or a hand. On the other hand, NV is dying in a pool of their own blood. But NV is a vampire that suck the lifeblood from other companies as well as unknowing consumers. They'll always come back to life :rolleyes:

Triprift · Jul 14, 2008

Lol someones getting carried away just cus a companies successful doesnt mean there evil

JRMBelgium · Jul 14, 2008

Triprift said:
Lol someones getting carried away just cus a companies successful doesnt mean there evil

Nvidia is evil. They renamed the Geforce 8 products as Geforce 9 cards. In my book, that's pure evil

jcfougere · Jul 14, 2008

If anyone knows how to go about buying some stocks in AMD, please send me an email:

jcfougere@gmail.com

AMd is turning heads with this round in graphics, which will secure investors. Stocks this low are begging to be bought, I want to take the risk and ride with them! :rockout:

WarEagleAU · Jul 15, 2008

Im not too worried about it. I think Ill divert like 30% of my 401k stock buying into AMD stock. As low as it is, and when they get increases, Ill increase my net worth

DrPepper · Jul 15, 2008

If they go out of business its simply because of a lack of marketing and securing deals with OEM's also if they focused on making a strong lineup of midrange cpu's for OEM's they would be in a better position. Also is there such thing as an AMD advertisement.

Megasty · Jul 15, 2008

In the past week, I've already bought 500 shares of AMD. I should buy another 500, too damn dirt cheap :shadedshu

I'm still waiting for NV to reach the bottom of the pit so I can sop some dough in them as well.

candle_86 · Jul 15, 2008

first off AMD CPU's do not suck at all. The E4xxx, E1xxx and E2xxx are all beat by AMD chips at stock speeds thanks to cache nutering. Under 100 bucks AMD is the better buy if you can't OC because of board limits be it OEM or budget board, or you just dont care about overclocking, in that respect AKA 90% of the market will never overclock so AMD is a better buy right there.

DrPepper · Jul 15, 2008

candle_86 said:
first off AMD CPU's do not suck at all. The E4xxx, E1xxx and E2xxx are all beat by AMD chips at stock speeds thanks to cache nutering. Under 100 bucks AMD is the better buy if you can't OC because of board limits be it OEM or budget board, or you just dont care about overclocking, in that respect AKA 90% of the market will never overclock so AMD is a better buy right there.

I didn't mean they sucked I mean that the quad phenom should have been marketed and priced to compete with the q6600 which is beginning to be sold in OEM pc's but I haven't seen any phenoms sold at for example pcworld, curry's and comet which sell almost intel exclusively.

Wile E · Jul 16, 2008

candle_86 said:
first off AMD CPU's do not suck at all. The E4xxx, E1xxx and E2xxx are all beat by AMD chips at stock speeds thanks to cache nutering. Under 100 bucks AMD is the better buy if you can't OC because of board limits be it OEM or budget board, or you just dont care about overclocking, in that respect AKA 90% of the market will never overclock so AMD is a better buy right there.

No, the the E2*** and E4*** series don't lose to the AMD in the same price target. Only the E1*** series does.

Jansku07 · Jul 16, 2008

w00t, AMD over 5$ now (5,03!!).

http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/nasdaqlastsale.aspx?symbol=AMD&selected=AMD

Megasty · Jul 16, 2008

bah, I just sold mine & made 49 cent a share :rockout:

Jansku07 · Jul 16, 2008

Thats gr8 man! =) Got a lot of AMD stock?

Megasty · Jul 16, 2008

Jansku07 said:
Thats gr8 man! =) Got a lot of AMD stock?

only about 2.8 grand worth, don't want to see it go down the tube with this lawsuit bs floating around...

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Bloodbath for AMD at the Stock-Markets, Company Struggles to Survive

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