ASUS Launches 9800 GTX+ ''Dark Knight'' Edition...Seriously!

[btarunr]

There are 11 9800GTX+ cards, and 17 HD4870's.

How many GTX 260 ? I'm talking about the older GTX 260 at that.

 

[newtekie1]

How many GTX 260 ? I'm talking about the older GTX 260 at that.

Yep, there are a lot of them, your point? My point was that having a bunch of cards to choose from is just how it is. Of course you didn't quote the part where I said there is 25 HD4850, but then that would make our useless post even more useless, wouldn't it?

 

[Bjorn_Of_Iceland]

looks good. Kinda kewl if you pair this up with Team Elite's "Heroic Duo"

 

[btarunr]

Yep, there are a lot of them, your point? My point was that having a bunch of cards to choose from is just how it is. Of course you didn't quote the part where I said there is 25 HD4850, but then that would make our useless post even more useless, wouldn't it?

Doesn't. you were stressing on the number of HD 4870 in particular, mentioning its number in bold. Secondly, those "25" HD 4850 aren't all birds of a feather, there are 5 cards with 1 GB memory, they're not "the same things" compared to its 512M counterparts. Digging further in, 9 out of the 24 HD 4850 are 100% reference designs. With 9800 GTX, the equation is worse, every single 9800 GTX+ listed is a 100% reference design. So there's genuinely more to choose from, in the HD 4850 list.

 

[newtekie1]

Doesn't. you were stressing on the number of HD 4870 in particular, mentioning its number in bold. Secondly, those "25" HD 4850 aren't all birds of a feather, there are 5 cards with 1 GB memory, they're not "the same things" compared to its 512M counterparts. Digging further in, 9 out of the 24 HD 4850 are 100% reference designs. With 9800 GTX, the equation is worse, every single 9800 GTX+ listed is a 100% reference design. So there's genuinely more to choose from, in the HD 4850 list.

Exactly, it is actually worst on the HD4850's side, thank you. The main issue that started the discussion was that there was so many different cards all listed under the same skew. And as you so nicely pointed out for me, all the 9800GTX+'s are totally reference, so they are essentially all the same cards. However, on ATi's side, some of them have 1GB, some have 512MB, some use reference design, some don't.

 

[btarunr]

However, on ATi's side, some of them have 1GB, some have 512MB, some use reference design, some don't.

But they're not the same either. Within a lineup there's variety. Some come with better than reference cooler, some come with 2x the amount of memory. So it's a better lineup. With the 9800 GTX+ you just have to pick one the throw of dice. It depends on how a customer looks at it. "I have no clue about what to pick..doh" will pick a 9800, "let's see if I can squeeze the most out of this bill" would go through the 4850 lineup, try to look at the various cooling / memory options on offer.

 

[newtekie1]

But they're not the same either. Within a lineup there's variety. Some come with better than reference cooler, some come with 2x the amount of memory. So it's a better lineup. With the 9800 GTX+ you just have to pick one the throw of dice. It depends on how a customer looks at it. "I have no clue about what to pick..doh" will pick a 9800, "let's see if I can squeeze the most out of this bill" would go through the 4850 lineup, try to look at the various cooling / memory options on offer.

Yes, but you have lost sight if what the original argument was about. The original argument was that there are too many cards with the same core with the same model number but with slightly different names and of course this card just adds to that with a non-reference design and cooler. MilkyWay, made the point that people are going to look toward ATi because there are too many cards with the same name that aren't the same, but my point, is that it is just as bad on ATi's side. That is just the way things are, you have to do research before you buy. Long gone are the days were every 9800Pro is exactly the same, those days have been gone for a while now.