14900k / ks VF point offsets?

[D007]

So I’m trying to overclocked the 14900KS and it’s going pretty decently but once it hits those high frequencies, based on the required load line and settings, the temperature just shoots through the roof. There are 11 VF point offsets in the bios for the ks. Lol.

I’m just wondering if anybody has any experience with some stable settings that helped them over clock while reducing temperatures and keep it stable.
I’m playing with it now and I guess I’ll keep playing with it regardless but it’s always always nice to get a good starting point.

I’m also having a hell of a time trying to figure out that no matter what I do, under load, the processor down clocks to 5.9 GHz.
Even with thermal velocity boost disabled. I have all of the powers set to unlimited. I don’t get it. Lol

Hope you’re all having a great weekend and thank you.

 

[chrcoluk]

Probably would be combining undervolt with the overclock, or doing the overclock combined with a power limit.

High clock speeds will still benefit in loads that dont chew through power, so combining it with a power limit wont prevent you from making use of the clock speeds, but ultimately the chip is a power hog if you let it fully stretch its legs.

I am talking about power but of course power = heat.

Also, in my own testing I have the opinion things like cache voltage and i/o voltage (including system agent) can have their noticeable impact on temperatures. So vcore isnt the only important voltage.

 

[BoggledBeagle]

So I’m trying to overclock the 14900KS and it’s going pretty decently but once it hits those high frequencies, based on the required load line and settings, the temperature just shoots through the roof.

Is this meant seriously?

Do you know that 14900KS is EXTREMELY overclocked out of the box? You are trying to push it even further? How long do you think that CPU is going to last?

If you do not like high temperature, you need to limit the frequency BELOW the out of the box figures. You need to downclock this CPU, not overclock it.

 

[D007]

yes, I’m just going to keep playing with the voltages and see where it gets me.

Is this meant seriously?

Do you know that 14900KS is EXTREMELY overclocked out of the box? You are trying to push it even further? How long do you think that CPU is going to last?

If you do not like high temperature, you need to limit the frequency BELOW the out of the box figures. You need to downclock this CPU, not overclock it.

If you’re under the impression that I made this topic in order for somebody to tell me what I NEED to do with the things that I purchase with my money, well, you’re kidding yourself.

If you don’t have anything beneficial to add to the topic based on what I’m asking for help with, I suggest you find another topic to post in. Cheers.

 

[ShrimpBrime]

The easiest way to help you is by giving you this link instead of any one of us trying to explain it all and type it out.

Enjoy

ASUS V/F Point Offset - SkatterBencher

V/f Point Offset provides end users with the ability to under-volt their CPUs at specific parts of the V/f curve.

skatterbencher.com

 

[D007]

The easiest way to help you is by giving you this link instead of any one of us trying to explain it all and type it out.

Enjoy

ASUS V/F Point Offset - SkatterBencher

V/f Point Offset provides end users with the ability to under-volt their CPUs at specific parts of the V/f curve.

skatterbencher.com

Cool, thanks Shrimp. You da man.

Edit: Oh, I already read that lol.
Definitely gave me some good pointers I am using thought.

 

[ShrimpBrime]

Cool, thanks Shrimp. You da man.

Edit: Oh, I already read that lol.
Definitely gave me some good pointers I am using thought.

Beat my 41187pts Cinebench CBR23 yet?

 

[D007]

Beat my 41187pts Cinebench CBR23 yet?

I just got like 42500 but I didn’t screenshot it lol.
I’m pretty happy with the OC. I don’t remember what I ended up with but I think it’s 2-63, 2-62, 2-61 and 2-59..
VF offset on point 9, 10, 11 for -.05v
Typical setting on LLC4. 1-.43v
Ecore at 45.
Throttling set at 115c but it didn’t hit 100c
“I think.”
Going to sleep now. I’ll check in the morning. Modded my ram and it’s drying so I can’t get in my PC right now lol.
Lights were too bright after removing the shroud so I cut some semi transparent tubes in half and siliconed them over the LEDs to diffuse the light. Lol

 

[BoggledBeagle]

If you’re under the impression that I made this topic in order for somebody to tell me what I NEED to do with the things that I purchase with my money, well, you’re kidding yourself.

Sure, you can toss the CPU in the fire or crush it in the vice, do whatever you like.

If you don’t have anything beneficial to add to the topic based on what I’m asking for help with, I suggest you find another topic to post in. Cheers.

You complained about high temperatures. If you have difficulty to understand that the easiest way to get lower temperatures is to run the CPU slower, nobody can help you, really.

Undervolting is not a good practise, because it diminishes the safety voltage margin for stability.

You can also use exotic ways of cooling the chip, as delidding and direct die cooling with waterblock. You can even buy a water chiller and add it to the loop.

Please be sure to report your final settings and then please come back to report after the CPU dies - do not forget to describe the load you subjected it to.

 

[ShrimpBrime]

I just got like 42500 but I didn’t screenshot it lol.
I’m pretty happy with the OC. I don’t remember what I ended up with but I think it’s 2-63, 2-62, 2-61 and 2-59..
VF offset on point 9, 10, 11 for -.05v
Typical setting on LLC4. 1-.43v
Ecore at 45.
Throttling set at 115c but it didn’t hit 100c
“I think.”
Going to sleep now. I’ll check in the morning. Modded my ram and it’s drying so I can’t get in my PC right now lol.
Lights were too bright after removing the shroud so I cut some semi transparent tubes in half and siliconed them over the LEDs to diffuse the light. Lol

So you're at a x59 all P-core ratio. I don't care about the 63x multi, there are very few apps using 1 or 2 cores only. Maybe the OS can utilize that frequency, but not sure what for.

At least the score is decent. That beats my best with less E-cores, which I figured it would be close'ish.

So 5.9ghz, now time for 4.6ghz E-cores. Looking for 45k pts at least from OC.

 

[RootinTootinPootin]

not my best yet..just testing new Windows 11 installation (24H2)

 

[D007]

not my best yet..just testing new Windows 11 installation (24H2)

Dan, that’s nice!
Does ram speed effect the score?
Is there some trick to it that helps which I may be missing? Lol

So you're at a x59 all P-core ratio. I don't care about the 63x multi, there are very few apps using 1 or 2 cores only. Maybe the OS can utilize that frequency, but not sure what for.

At least the score is decent. That beats my best with less E-cores, which I figured it would be close'ish.

So 5.9ghz, now time for 4.6ghz E-cores. Looking for 45k pts at least from OC.

Getting 46 on E was a bit of a PITA but I’ll go for it.

Sure, you can toss the CPU in the fire or crush it in the vice, do whatever you like.


You complained about high temperatures. If you have difficulty to understand that the easiest way to get lower temperatures is to run the CPU slower, nobody can help you, really.

Undervolting is not a good practise, because it diminishes the safety voltage margin for stability.

You can also use exotic ways of cooling the chip, as delidding and direct die cooling with waterblock. You can even buy a water chiller and add it to the loop.

Please be sure to report your final settings and then please come back to report after the CPU dies - do not forget to describe the load you subjected it to.

Bro, please go find a bridge to live under.. I don’t need or care for your smug nonsense. Buh bye.

 

[RootinTootinPootin]

Does ram speed effect the score?

on R23, NO

Is there some trick to it that helps which I may be missing? Lol

you really have to stop over feeding your voltages.

 

[D007]

on R23, NO

you really have to stop over feeding your voltages.

But they are hungry!
lol Ok, that makes sense. I’ll take that into account and adjust some things. But I really am trying to fine-tune it.
I don’t think 1.435 V is a lot. Am I wrong? I’m manually adjusting the maximums and VF point offsets as well as the load lines. I think I’m doing pretty decent on voltages. I could be wrong though so I’ll mess with it.
Thank you.