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MSI Aegis Ti GAMING PC (Dual-GPU)

cadaveca

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MSI sent us their latest fully featured PC, the Aegis Ti, to take a look at. This PC departs from the "traditional box" design in a big way and is ready to support not just one but two GTX 1080s! It's VR ready, including an HDMI port in front and dual M.2 drives, which can be configured in RAID, making it ready for whatever you want to throw at it.

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Great PC, although overpriced. Thanks for the review @cadaveca !
 
ZeroFM said:
temp ? noise ?
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Exhaust air temps are listed, and clearly there is no throttle by the benchmark results. MSI VGAs are nearly silent as is, and the AIO CPU cooler ensures that CPU load noise was minimal. I do not possess a proper dB meter.

Since this is available as a barebones, and some builders offer full customization of the parts inside, such metrics are not representative of all configurations, so are not reported. I asked MSI to send me another unit, which I am expecting in the coming week or so (barebones), and I'll be using it as my main system, so I can offer better details on my specific configuration at that time.

HD64G said:
Great PC, although overpriced. Thanks for the review @cadaveca !
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There is a bit of an increase in price over buying all the parts separate (dual 950 pro, 32 GB of SO-DIMM ram, 2TB drive, CPU, dual VGAs, board, PSU, case, OS, AIO cooler), but it is not that much, and a worthy expense for warranty service and building of the PC, which some people are simply not willing to deal with.
 
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so wait the overclocking is done by hitting a turbo button? did I read that right?
 
Talk about next level of ugly.
 
phanbuey said:
so wait the overclocking is done by hitting a turbo button? did I read that right?
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Yes, yes you did. You know, like the original Turbo buttons back in 386 days...

ShurikN said:
Talk about next level of ugly.
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Hard to please everyone with a single case design. I actually love it. It looks like a head, inside which the "brains" of my PC sit. Excellent!
 
That case... Strong enough for a man, made for a boy.
 
cadaveca said:
Yes, yes you did. You know, like the original Turbo buttons back in 386 days...
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If I remember correctly, the "Turbo" button back in the day actually Underclocks the CPU so older software / games run properly.
 
Zubasa said:
If I remember correctly, the "Turbo" button back in the day actually Underclocks the CPU so older software / games runs properly.
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If that's the case, mine was wired backwards. :p

Then when I had a cyrix system, it'd cycle through three speeds.
 
thx for the review.

just curious, what kind of form factor that mobo ? and those gpus, are they connected using pci-e risers ?
 
luciferxy said:
thx for the review.

just curious, what kind of form factor that mobo ? and those gpus, are they connected using pci-e risers ?
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To be honest, the board doesn't resemble standard form factors. To me, it resembles a beefed up laptop board, and the use of SO-DIMM memory kind of bolsters that idea. And yes, there is a single "riser" that connects to the motherboard @ a 90 degree angle to allow the GPUs to connect. It does also allow a single GPU to be used as well, but I did not go so far into disassembly as to see what sort of connection the board uses. I will take a look at that when my barebones arrives in the near future.
 
cadaveca said:
Yes, yes you did. You know, like the original Turbo buttons back in 386 days...


Hard to please everyone with a single case design. I actually love it. It looks like a head, inside which the "brains" of my PC sit. Excellent!
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Zubasa said:
If I remember correctly, the "Turbo" button back in the day actually Underclocks the CPU so older software / games run properly.
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Actually, that turbo button exists from the 286 and even 8086 / IBM XT already. Programs where made and counted on the 'fixed' CPU speed, i.e 4.87Mhz vs 12Mhz. Programs would run 3 times as fast on 12Mhz compared to the original 4.87Mhz. The IBM XT had that same problem as well. The turbo button was nothing more then a real-time multiplier to either set back at 12Mhz or "33MHz" if we're talking 386 age. The same problem exists on consoles; they need to have fixed CPU speeds in order to work properly.

Anyway: why would the lack of voltageadjustment be a problem? Users who buy a crossfire based computer shoud'nt OC at all with such specs (2x ssd, 2x Radeon's) and so on.
 
Jism said:
Anyway: why would the lack of voltageadjustment be a problem? Users who buy a crossfire based computer shoud'nt OC at all with such specs (2x ssd, 2x Radeon's) and so on.
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I see no problem in OC'ing, and MSI must not either, since you can do it with a push of the front logo. Default VID with any CPU is going to be a bit higher than it really needs to be and the option to choose what voltage your system runs at is a bit of freedom I'd personally appreciate and so should any user.
 
And what if the user blows up components for not carefully picking voltages? Is that MSI's problem? I think they are just playing safe on this side. If that motherboard is from a known vendor then you should be able to reflash the BIOS with voltage support.
 
Jism said:
I think they are just playing safe on this side. If that motherboard is from a known vendor then you should be able to reflash the BIOS with voltage support.
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It is a custom board for this unit, so no flashing.

Of course they are playing it safe, but they could also offer a range of options within what I would call acceptable limits. I'd like multiplier adjustment as well anyway.

Jism said:
And what if the user blows up components for not carefully picking voltages?
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The same applies as it would with any motherboard. I see it as a non-issue. It is just a matter of designing the board to handle the range of voltages offered. Why do some motherboards offer CPU voltage up to 2.1V?


In the end, it's not that big of a deal, or I'd not be waiting for one to use as my main system, but here I eagerly sit, waiting for one... ;) I'd like the added flexibility, but it is not a deal breaker for me by any means. However, there is a difference between pretty awesome and perfect.


I would have loved to have kept the one they sent to me for testing, to be honest, but I did have to return it. I'll have to pick up a couple of 1070's to use with it, but I don't mind having to do that at all. Maybe I'll get 1080's, but for some reason I prefer the 1070...o_O
 
HP, Dell, any other vendor "locked out" many options that would tamper clockspeeds and all in Bios. If there was a clockgen on the board, you still would be able to control that clockgen by CPUFSB or any particular program (if that clockgen was a known one). Some custom boards of both brands where rebrands of a commercial board, and reflashing it with a commercial bios would unlock that stuff.

I think that system is pretty fast enough, that it does'nt need OC'ing at all. The button is rather a gimmick simular as any asus board having a OC button which boosts up MP and default voltage. Any pro oc'er would proberly find a way in to raise FSB / MP and all.
 
MSI's app "command center" nor Intel's XTU allow for cpu multi changes or tension adjustments? I'm guesstimating here theres a z170 chipset powering that machine,...alsoThrottleStop has plenty of options.
 
dont whant to set it"' said:
MSI's app "command center" nor Intel's XTU allow for cpu multi changes or tension adjustments? I'm guesstimating here theres a z170 chipset powering that machine,...alsoThrottleStop has plenty of options.
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I'd like to see options for adjusting the OC offered by pressing that button, not software-based tools.

MSI command center does not offer any adjustments, no.

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HP, Dell, any other vendor "locked out" many options that would tamper clockspeeds and all in Bios. If there was a clockgen on the board, you still would be able to control that clockgen by CPUFSB or any particular program (if that clockgen was a known one). Some custom boards of both brands where rebrands of a commercial board, and reflashing it with a commercial bios would unlock that stuff.

I think that system is pretty fast enough, that it does'nt need OC'ing at all. The button is rather a gimmick simular as any asus board having a OC button which boosts up MP and default voltage. Any pro oc'er would proberly find a way in to raise FSB / MP and all.
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Oh, for sure it is fast enough, however, I have a CPU that can do 5 GHz that I'll install into the Aegis Ti, and the most it'll run is 4.6 GHz. To do so will require voltage and multiplier options, should I want to have the option of using that button, and being able to switch between stock and OC on the fly while like, in a game. I'd like the option to maximize what that button offers.

That's part of why I like this system so much in the first place; it is a basic dual-GPU box with fantastic quiet cooling, but also offers immediate OC to both CPU and GPUs by pressing the logo up from. I'd like the option to adjust the GPU OC too. It has nothing to do with what's required or needed, it's about having options. I also mentioned in the review that not all fan speeds can be adjusted, too. Again, that's about having options similar to what you'd get by buying separate components and building a system that way.


MSI offers motherboards with a dial that allow some pretty hefty OCs. Having THAT option on a system like this would be more to my fancy, even without the options to adjust voltages. And again, it's a minor detail that isn't preventing me from building and having an Aegis Ti of my own for daily use.
 
cadaveca said:
that can do 5 GHz that I'll install into the Aegis Ti, and the most it'll run is 4.6 GHz. To do so will require
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Ahammz , so you've installed say cip and it yelded a "what em a call it: conservative-optimal" oc, the first I'll confused me a bit.
Even so for an un/in(knowlageable times experienced) I for one would be awe'd ,yet my perfection seeking controll freak obsesive compulsion disorder .,...,
 
@cadaveca looks like a nice score for review purposes ;)

Hey those 1070 cards, are they the full size cards or just a smaller card?
 
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