Intel 14nm Processors Face Shortages

[btarunr]

Intel's 8th generation Core desktop processors based on the company's 14 nm node are facing shortages in the market, according to a Tom's Hardware report. Tracking prices and availability of popular 8th generation Core SKUs such as the i5-8400, i5-8600K, and i7-8700K, the report notes that retailers are heavily marking up these SKUs above their SEP, and many of whom are running out of stock often. This may not be attributed to heavy demand.

A possible explanation for these shortages could be Intel allocating volumes from the same 14 nm++ node for its upcoming 9th generation Core processors, which debut with three SKUs - i5-9600K, i7-9700K, and i9-9900K. Intel probably wants to launch the three chips not just at competitive prices, but also good enough volumes to win the 2018 Holiday season, and repair its competitiveness damaged by AMD 2nd generation Ryzen over the past couple of quarters.



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[Berfs1]

Intel is gonna lose in the end, I just have the gut feeling AMD is gonna beat them.

 

[fynxer]

Intel will still try to increase the price, they know there are to many Intel fan boys out there that pay any price tag.

Can not wait for AMD 7nm, really hope they get an real edge over Intel even in gaming.

 

[dwade]

Intel is selling like hot cakes because most people only care about gaming. All Ryzen did was steal some table scraps from very low-end budget builders.

 

[UrbanCamper]

Not seeing any increase in prices at the Egg. Actually the 8600k,8700k and the 8086k, are on sale. But ya I agree they are hurting themselves with lack of 7nm ability, and probable overpricing of the upcoming i9 release.

 

[zelnep]

as I wrote before few days in article about increasing inventories and overproduction (intels inventories has grown significantly over few past years - they will face huge writedowns soon) - but they will strike back - be ready for: shortage reports, buy while you can, preorder now, limited quantity and other BS

 

[R0H1T]

Tom's - just buy it c/o Intel

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Flies in the face of this article, doesn't it?

Isn't it more likely linked to tariffs? Intel moves their chips all over the world during production. Everytime they enter the USA, they could be getting hit by another tariff. Intel could easily be passing that down the chain and they're bumping their prices up to reflect that.

 

[Jozsef Dornyei]

Intel was forced by AMD to create better CPUs and now people are replacing they age old system with new ones.
Who could have foresee this happening???

 

[cadaveca]

Actual problem is yields and RMAs. Hence the sales to clear out defective stock. Quick look into problems with 8700K and it's generational brothers, on brand-new built systems is quite revealing, and once you add in the hardware security flaws finally exposed, all becomes clear. It's not AMD, tariffs, increased inventories or any of that.

 

[silentbogo]

Intel's 8th generation Core desktop processors based on the company's 14 nm node are facing shortages in the market, according to a Tom's Hardware report.

Lol. It's probably the worst time to take anything from Tom's hardware seriously.
First of all, those charts from PCPartsPicker are barely an indicator of price trends. Except for i5-8400 the biggest fluctuations come from places like Walmart and Newegg marketplace(not Newegg themselves).
Secondly, as @FordGT90Concept already noted, the price spike coincides "for some reason" with 25% US tariff bump on electronics. If you use the same ole PCPartsPicker and simply select some other world regions, you'll notice that there was no spikes, or at most 1 or 2 retailers did a "reactionary" bump at the same time as US, while the others remained calm and patient.

From my personal experience I can tell you that our retailers only ran out of Ryzen 7 CPUs for a short time, and prices fell significantly for both blue and red camps.

 

[Bwaze]

The prices are going up in Europe too, this is cheapest available i7 8700K from Geizhals.eu:

I am sure everyone wants a piece of that DDR4 success story - selling 3+ years old tech for double the price!

 

[RejZoR]

Intel is selling like hot cakes because most people only care about gaming. All Ryzen did was steal some table scraps from very low-end budget builders.

Except a lot of big companies are employing EPYC's now and in compute and general productivity, AMD still beats Intel in most cases while being a bit cheaper. There's a lot of gamers, but they don't make the most income anywhere. It's data centers and workstations that bring in the bulk of profit. Just one data center can have more CPU's and AMD has been cut out of those for years till release of Zen. Not anymore. And even if you're a gamer, R7 2700X brings enough performance for fluid gaming in anything. Maybe not absolute peak, but still. Once AMD solves thi by ramping up single thread clocks even further, Intel is screwed hard. AMD just needs to get there fast.

 

[First Strike]

Let's face it, alright? Stop trolling nonsense. There is truly a great demand for Coffee Lake. It 's the first time since Sandy Bridge that Intel greatly bumped up its processors' value, and also the first time in a couple of years Intel started to ramp up the marketing toward general consumers. And these coincides with the returning trend of PC gaming (which Ryzen does not excel at).

If all these factors can't lead to a strong demand, then Intel should be already dead.

And for "gamers don't have much money", yeah. So all those Geforce cards are selled for, ummm, scientific purposes?

 

[cadaveca]

And for "gamers don't have much money", yeah. So all those Geforce cards are selled for, ummm, scientific purposes?

I guess you forgot about mining? Some gamers have money, but games like FortNight are so popular because gamers like my own kids can play... for free. My kids don't have $600 for a VGA, and I can't afford to buy 4 VGAs so they all get one. Most "gamers" play consoles their parents bought them, get older, get a job, then start playing PC. There is great adoption for home PCs for sure in this age, but that is still relatively rare.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

Let's face it, alright? Stop trolling nonsense. There is truly a great demand for Coffee Lake. It 's the first time since Sandy Bridge that Intel greatly bumped up its processors' value, and also the first time in a couple of years Intel started to ramp up the marketing toward general consumers. And these coincides with the returning trend of PC gaming (which Ryzen does not excel at).

If all these factors can't lead to a strong demand, then Intel should be already dead.

And for "gamers don't have much money", yeah. So all those Geforce cards are selled for, ummm, scientific purposes?

No one is saying gamers dont have money.
The bulk of intels profits come from servers and data centers, NOT Core I7s sitting in gaming desktops. Same will eventually go for AMD, they are gunning hard for datacenter sales, where margins are exponentially higher then consumer sales.

Even nvidia, with its geforce cards, makes a shitload of cash off of datacenters with tesla and quadro GPUs.

Ryzen is good enough for gaming for most people. Ryzen also seems to have smoother frame delivery in game VS intel, something noted when ryzen first came out. It is a credible threat to intel's dominance. If AMD can get clock rates up to 5 ghz before intel can get substantial performance boosts out, intel is in serious trouble.

Nothing here is "trolling". Sorry if that hurts your feelings, but that is the truth. Intel is facing a credible challenge, and that makes you upset, but that doesnt mean you can just go labeling conversations as trolling because you dislike them.

 

[qcmadness]

The increase of core numbers would increase the die sizes significantly.
4C Coffeelake ~ 140mm^2
6C Coffeelake ~ 160mm^2
8C Coffeelake ~ 180mm^2 (est.)

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Actual problem is yields and RMAs. Hence the sales to clear out defective stock. Quick look into problems with 8700K and it's generational brothers, on brand-new built systems is quite revealing, and once you add in the hardware security flaws finally exposed, all becomes clear. It's not AMD, tariffs, increased inventories or any of that.

Got a source for that? Makes a lot of sense but there should be some documentation that Intel is selling lemons.

 

[R-T-B]

Got a source for that? Makes a lot of sense but there should be some documentation that Intel is selling lemons.

I mean, Spectre/meltdown doesn't really need a citation, now does it?

Don't know on the RMA part but there certainly have been more forum reports of defective cpus since skylake...

 

[cadaveca]

Got a source for that? Makes a lot of sense but there should be some documentation that Intel is selling lemons.

Sorry, but I can not provide more information at this time. Someone else needs to do that, unfortunately.