Intel Core i7-9700K

[W1zzard]

Intel's Core i7-9700K comes with eight cores, but lacks HyperThreading. In our testing, it still conclusively beats the 6-core/12-thread Core i7-8700K. The much more expensive Core i9-9900K is also under heavy attack: it seems the Core i7-9700K actually is the better gaming CPU.

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[bug]

Basically, this a great chip, has everything going for it. Until we get to the price/performance graphs

 

[ArbitraryAffection]

If this was £300 (that is the price of the 2700X here) … I honestly might have even considered it, even as a diehard AMD fangirl, lol. But i'm just not going to pay the 'Intel Tax' when i'm already pushing more than my monitor's refresh rate in essentially all games anyway. That said, if I was a competitive gamer (i'm not) and had a 144Hz+ monitor these would look a lot more appealing..

 

[The Quim Reaper]

Would be a seriously good CPU for emulation.

5Ghz and enough threads to run the most demanding 2D & 3D based emulators out there.

 

[Fleurious]

Looks good, if it shows up in a black friday sale it could be quite tempting.

Not having read the review fully, does it have hardware fixes for spectre/meltdown or will that come with future chips?

 

[Toss]

amazing how crappy new intel CPUS are
no HT is only because of INTEL greed

 

[arroyo]

@W1zzard
Can you do the some test with same clocks set for 8700K an 9700K?
I wonder how they perform on the same clocks, because right now, the performance difference looks like it is related only to higher boost clock and not two additional physical cores.

 

[bug]

Looks good, if it shows up in a black friday sale it could be quite tempting.

Not having read the review fully, does it have hardware fixes for spectre/meltdown or will that come with future chips?

You don't have to read the review for that, all CFL CPUs are the same: they have hw mitigation for some variants of Spectre/Meltdown. On top of that, this CPU is also hardened against all Spectre/Metldown variants that exploit hyperthreading

 

[GoldenX]

Bad value and 0 innovation.
Why didn't Intel just named this whole series 8750k and 8900k?

 

[dirtyferret]

Good performance chip but completely over priced also why is the i5-8600k MSRP at $280 when it launched at a $260 MSRP? Intel is doing an excellent job of making the AMD/Intel CPU choice easier for DIY builders (and not in the Intel intended way). I'm just glad I got my 8600k for $219.

 

[Metroid]

Would be a seriously good CPU for emulation.

5Ghz and enough threads to run the most demanding 2D & 3D based emulators out there.

Single thread killer for any emulator, surely the best we have so far.

 

[Saxxter]

Bad value and 0 innovation.
Why didn't Intel just named this whole series 8750k and 8900k?

Cause we can't have it looking TOO much like a refresh now ehh?!?!

 

[MoupitShow]

how is this possible ?

 

[GoldenX]

Bad batch.

 

[W1zzard]

how is this possible ?

That does look strange .. retesting both CPUs quick

 

[Kamgusta]

Can you please try to make all these values to be consistent? That means to measure them both at the wall OR reading from the CPU package power sensor.

 

[Konceptz]

So my take from this review is, this is the real "gamers chip" whereas the 2700x is for anything else...

 

[ZoneDymo]

~600EUR in my country for this i7 9700k if you are lucky and can find it somewhere

debatable if you can call it luck, this has poor value compared to an 2700(X)

 

[W1zzard]

Can you please try to make all these values to be consistent? That means to measure them both at the wall OR reading from the CPU package power sensor.

I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about the package power numbers in temperature testing.

Edit: Very strange, looks like the 9900K Cinebench numbers were wrong. Performance in Cinebench was lower by a similar amount, not sure what happened. I switched CPUs back to back and the new numbers have been uplaoded to both reviews

 

[Assimilator]

@W1zzard why aren't the 9900K @ 5.1GHz results in the Power Consumption graphs, since the other 9900K results are?

 

[W1zzard]

@W1zzard why aren't the 9900K @ 5.1GHz results in the Power Consumption graphs, since the other 9900K results are?

We include OC numbers only for the tested CPU, otherwise there would be too many results. I'm sure people have reasons to request OC numbers to be included for 2700X, 2600, 8700K, 9900K, 2950X, 7900X

 

[E-curbi]

Basically, this a great chip, has everything going for it. Until we get to the price/performance graphs

Yep a great CPU. And a great review WIzzard Sir.

Kinda like I predicted the 9900K/9700K and 8700K/8086K are gonna just trade blows on Cinebench ST Single Core performance, depending on how high the "individual" CPUs clock.

We still don't know how high these 9700Ks will clock, I predicted to the Siliconlottery.com guy the 9700Ks would hit a stable 5.4Ghz small percentage and the 9900Ks 5.3Ghz small percentage. From recent findings, we know that may be dependent on a delidding and a sanding of the die. We can't win for losing with Intel. lol

Not complaining too darn much, Intel Coffee Lake are still the highest performing CPUs for single and slightly threaded workloads, what I use everyday with my three work applications.

Siliconlottery.com will report his 9700K performance findings - high bin chips and the range of clocks, this coming Sunday October 28th.

https://siliconlottery.com/collections/coffeelake-r

W!zzard's 9700K Cinebench ST score is 223 (1st pic). My 8086K Cinebench ST score is 236 (2nd pic). Like I said, Coffee Lake and Coffee Lake-R are only going to trade blows depending on the silicon lottery ie quality-efficiency of the silicon per processor, no real significant difference either way, high or low.


A 9700K highest bin at 5.4Ghz might test at a Cine ST score of 250, idk. I'm totally guessing, but still not significant enough for an upgrade.

For me, waiting for Ice Lake and 10nm is the best plan, and grabbing either a 6/12 or an 8/8 at that time.


Thank you for the review W!zzard


...addendum: did I just dramatically butcher W1zzard's username 3times? lol

 

[Turmania]

I'm probably going to tie myself down to i7 9700k with Asus rog strix z390 mini itx board with modest overclock of 5ghz on all cores. As my next cpu has to hit 5ghz at least. Lets call it mind barrier to hit 5ghz.

 

[E-curbi]

I'm probably going to tie myself down to i7 9700k with Asus rog strix z390 mini itx board with modest overclock of 5ghz on all cores. As my next cpu has to hit 5ghz at least. Lets call it mind barrier to hit 5ghz.

Have you seen the new Z390 Maximus XI Apex?

I found brand new photos from an Asus announcement in Malaysia, check out my build log signature link below, last entry Batman Build. The board looks like the best choice for high stable clocks of Coffee Lake 8th and 9th Series.

The unveiling was only like 36hours ago.

And the webpage is still under construction.

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-MAXIMUS-XI-APEX/

 

[ifkopifko]

Hi, looking at the results of the new Intel CPUs... is there any explanation for the power consumption numbers being lower in Prime95 when compared to consumption in Cinebench? Power virus detection or something?