XFX Radeon RX 5700 XT THICC III Ultra

[W1zzard]

The XFX RX 5700 XT THICC III Ultra is a brand new triple-fan design from the company, which runs higher clocks, too. XFX listened to criticism and improved the memory cooling plate, reducing temperatures and noise levels significantly, which makes the THICC III one of the quietest RX 5700 XT cards out there.

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[dj-electric]

I hate being a broken record, but it seems like more and more premium 5700 XT cards just can't reach the Noise to temp ratio of the simple 409$ Sapphire Pulse.
What an awful waste of money.

 

[Cheeseball]

Noise-to-temp, yeah it fails at that. But at least they took heed of Gamer Nexus' points (especially after their rep blamed them on Reddit) and improved on this one.

I feel sorry for those who got the THICC II though, hopefully they can return those cards since its only been a little over a month since the THICC II was released.

 

[somethinggeneric]

why is "no hardware-accelerated raytracing" listed as a con here? This is something none of the cards have or will have, most likely ever so this seems like an entirely moot point that could be argued as a good thing given the value of RTX.

Perhaps you explained this somewhere but I can't find it, just curious.

 

[Jism]

60 watts on avg more for like 5% more FPS in comparison with a AMD reference model. AMD already sqeezes out already the best efficiency and leaves not much headroom left without the power consumption rising through the roof. Not a bad card overall tho.

 

[W1zzard]

why is "no hardware-accelerated raytracing" listed as a con here? This is something none of the cards have or will have, most likely ever so this seems like an entirely moot point that could be argued as a good thing given the value of RTX.

Perhaps you explained this somewhere but I can't find it, just curious.

There's people out there who aren't aware. I know that you guys commenting are experts. This is the same thing as "no analog vga on dvi" back in the day, or "no integrated graphics" on ryzen. I'm trying to educate people here, it would be easy to just hide it and not face your criticism.

Also it's not impossible that raytracing will take off in a year or two, driven by next-gen consoles and NVIDIA. All I want is that people think about points I make and come to their own conclusions.

 

[64K]

why is "no hardware-accelerated raytracing" listed as a con here? This is something none of the cards have or will have, most likely ever so this seems like an entirely moot point that could be argued as a good thing given the value of RTX.

Perhaps you explained this somewhere but I can't find it, just curious.

One thing to consider is that most people don't buy a card just for today's games. If that were the case then hardware accelerated ray tracing isn't a big deal but in my experience the average person buys a card about every 2 generations or 4 years. It's my belief that ray tracing will be coming no matter what because the next gen consoles will have hardware accelerated ray tracing chips as well. It won't be full real time ray tracing of course. It will be limited by what the next gen consoles can handle but it most likely is the future.

Something to consider when buying a new GPU. I have already decided to rule out any GPUs for my next upgrade that don't have hardware accelerated ray tracing capability.

 

[Anymal]

Its mos def a con, since you can easily turn it off and voila, no rtx.

 

[the54thvoid]

I don't normally get a hard-on for hardware but I think XFX has nailed that design. Good to see the noise controlled, though shame about the power. Pulling more than a 2080ti in gaming is awful.

 

[Totally]

There's people out there who aren't aware. I know that you guys commenting are experts. This is the same thing as "no analog vga on dvi" back in the day, or "no integrated graphics" on ryzen. I'm trying to educate people here, it would be easy to just hide it and not face your criticism.

Also it's not impossible that raytracing will take off in a year or two, driven by next-gen consoles and NVIDIA. All I want is that people think about points I make and come to their own conclusions.

I never took an issue except "no cuda support" really not a feature aimed for the general public and those interested in it know well enough.

 

[W1zzard]

I never took an issue except "no cuda support" really not a feature aimed for the general public and those interested in it know well enough.

Agreed, back in the day there was no alternative and it looked like GPU-accelerated compute could become a killer feature for consumers. Now, with OpenCL around, and limited use of GPU acceleration in apps, this is a complete non-issue.

 

[Assimilator]

There's people out there who aren't aware. I know that you guys commenting are experts. This is the same thing as "no analog vga on dvi" back in the day, or "no integrated graphics" on ryzen. I'm trying to educate people here, it would be easy to just hide it and not face your criticism.

Also it's not impossible that raytracing will take off in a year or two, driven by next-gen consoles and NVIDIA. All I want is that people think about points I make and come to their own conclusions.

Regardless of whether ray-tracing does succeed or not, regardless of whether it delivers playable frame-rates on today's cards or not, it's just responsible journalism to inform buyers about what this product has or lacks versus their competitors', in order to allow readers to make the best-informed decision.

 

[W1zzard]

to inform buyers about what this product has or lacks versus their competitors', in order to allow readers to make the best-informed decision.

that's all i'm trying to do, every single day

 

[Dave65]

I hate being a broken record, but it seems like more and more premium 5700 XT cards just can't reach the Noise to temp ratio of the simple 409$ Sapphire Pulse.
What an awful waste of money.

Agreed, best 5700xt for price/performance ratio.

 

[nguyen]

Seems like The Surge 2 results are fixed, it was odd seeing 2060S get 2x the fps of the 5700XT lol

 

[kmetek]

Stay away from XFX, whoever will have to deal with RMA support within EU after 2 yrs mandatory retail warranty, will get possible custom taxes (they send replacament cards/psus from China),
Had PSU RMA fiasco with them, not willing to take resposability to cover potential custom taxes for replacament psu. At the end they tell you to buy new one.....5 yrs warranty, not even 3 passed.
XFX is a NO GO for me, for ever.

 

[phill]

Lovely review there @W1zzard The 5700XT looks to me to be a decent card, price isn't too bad it's just a shame that it looses the efficiency when it comes to this card, I wonder why the jump?

Would be a card I'd definitely consider

 

[W1zzard]

I wonder why the jump?

From the review: It seems in order to achieve stability at their high out-of-the-box clocks, XFX has bumped up the power limit quite a bit, and possibly voltage, too.

 

[phill]

From the review: It seems in order to achieve stability at their high out-of-the-box clocks, XFX has bumped up the power limit quite a bit, and possibly voltage, too.

Apologises there @W1zzard I missed that.. Well you can't have more performance without increasing something I guess

Would it be a card (the 5700XT in general rather than this XFX card) that you'd consider yourself W1zzard?

 

[W1zzard]

Would it be a card (the 5700XT in general rather than this XFX card) that you'd consider yourself W1zzard?

Of course, otherwise I wouldn't give it an award

 

[EarthDog]

why is "no hardware-accelerated raytracing" listed as a con here? This is something none of the cards have or will have, most likely ever so this seems like an entirely moot point that could be argued as a good thing given the value of RTX.

Perhaps you explained this somewhere but I can't find it, just curious.

i'm curious if it is listed as a con for all AMD cards then???

EDIT: It is, what do ya know?!!!

 

[phill]

Of course, otherwise I wouldn't give it an award

Just checking

 

[rrrrex]

-Large overclock out of the box
But +10% clocks gives +3% perfomance

-7 nanometer production process
But it's even worse than geforce 1000 in terms of power efficiency

 

[Mouth of Sauron]

It's totally not possible that users who buy a card TODAY should worry about ray-tracing. Console will have it, but PC games - they are what? 2 games that use different approach and none does full ray-tracing? What about development circle? Blizzard "considers" ray-tracing for D4. When it will be out? I'd say at least 3 years...

Besides, the gains of hardware-accelerated are somewhere between probably and maybe, each current CPU and GPU can do the math needed, whether there will be gain or not of 'a' change to CUs (or, indeed, is it possible at all) is one question, other is does it sacrifices something else for it - eg. slowing down something that is actually used.

NVIDIA uses it as an questionable marketing trick, 'early adopters' just get the same what they typically get - option that they don't need. Yet. In two years users, no matter of knowledge, will probably be looking for a new GPU anyway, and that is the time when raytracing (and it's implementation, and it's natural slowness as a property of algorhytm) can be an issue.

Other than that, good review.

 

[Anymal]

We can assume that nvidia incalculated the time they need to test it in RL apps and to properly grease big game developers. Time, time, time... money, money, money...