MSI Japan Announces Bravo 15 Gaming Laptop

[Uskompuf]

MSI Japan has recently announced the MSI Bravo-15-A4DDR-056JP a 15-inch AMD Ryzen 7, Radeon RX gaming laptop. The Bravo 15 features a powerful 8-core 16-thread Ryzen 7 4800H paired with a Radeon RX 5500M 4 GB GDDR6, which helps drive the full HD 144Hz AMD FreeSync display. The laptop also comes equipped with 16 GB of dual-channel DDR4 memory and a 512 GB NVMe SSD. The laptop boasts Wi-Fi 6 networking and features x2 USB 3.2 Gen-1 Type-C, x2 USB 3.2 Gen-1 Type-A, x1 HDMI, x1 Gigabit LAN, x1 headphone output and x1 audio combo jack.

The laptop includes a Japanese style backlit keyboard, stereo speakers, 720p webcam, and packs in a 51 WHr 3 cell battery. The Bravo 15 measures 359 mm x 254 mm x 21.7 mm while coming in at just 1.9 kg. The laptop will be available to purchase in Japanese markets starting August 20th for a suggested price of 160,000 yen (~1500 USD), it is currently unknown if MSI plans to bring this laptop to other markets.



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[EarthDog]

I had no idea the asian market was big at this website.

Is this coming to any other market?

 

[Caring1]

"Thin and light" in the first pic indicates this will be useless as a gaming laptop.

 

[Valantar]

Hasn't this already been out for a while in other regions?

 

[Chrispy_]

"Thin and light" in the first pic indicates this will be useless as a gaming laptop.

Not useless, just hot and noisy.
IMO that chassis size is ideal for dissipating about 50W quietly, or about 100W hella loud.

Unfortunately the 5500M and Renoir picked for it are easily 100W combined. AMD don't really have a good laptop dGPU at the moment, there's a huge gap in the market for a 30-60W dGPU that is utterly owned by Nvidia's 1600-series because AMD didn't even bother turning up to the fight.

A 20CU Navi14 with 4GB GDDR6 and boost clocks of 1250MHz should come in at under 50W but it simply doesn't exist, and in my opinion that's an important market (entry-level gaming laptop) with a pretty big demographic as far as dGPU laptops go....

 

[Valantar]

Not useless, just hot and noisy.
IMO that chassis size is ideal for dissipating about 50W quietly, or about 100W hella loud.

Unfortunately the 5500M and Renoir picked for it are easily 100W combined. AMD don't really have a good laptop dGPU at the moment, there's a huge gap in the market for a 30-60W dGPU that is utterly owned by Nvidia's 1600-series because AMD didn't even bother turning up to the fight.

A 20CU Navi14 with 4GB GDDR6 and boost clocks of 1250MHz should come in at under 50W but it simply doesn't exist, and in my opinion that's an important market (entry-level gaming laptop) with a pretty big demographic as far as dGPU laptops go....

That HBM-equipped Navi chip apple uses should fill that space nicely, though I doubt we'll ever see it outside of a MacBook.

 

[b1k3rdude]

@Uskompuf

You need to do your research before posting news articles, this laptop has been around for months -

This laptop has been slated by a number of media outlets already. The laptop overheats to the point you wouldnt want this on your lap when using it. When the TechteamGB review came out MSI then got caught trying to bribe the reviewer. I like MSI have bought the'r mainboards for years, but this laptop is garbage -

YouTuber alleges that MSI offered money in exchange for hushing “disappointing” MSI Bravo 15 laptop review

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And MSI aren't the only ones building substandard cooling to thier AMD laptops -

 

[Chrispy_]

I mean, for ANYONE looking to buy a laptop, just take these rules of thumb. I've been formulating them over a decade and, because heatpipe and fan technology is largely unchanged, they have proven to be pretty accurate for me when assessing fleet laptops (I buy a lot of laptops, and I often buy them on spec and this rule of thumb because they're too new for reviews)

• Each vent in the edge of most laptops can handle 25W of heat dissipation at full fans
• If the laptop is alloy-bodied, add 25%
• If the laptop is exceptionally thin, subtract 25% and if it's a full-fat gamer model add 50% to the total

Applying that rule to this laptop's cooling says 100W noisy, 50W quiet, and at no point can it handle the 120W of its internals without throttling.