• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Samsung Announces Gaming-Grade Notebook Display Panels

btarunr

Editor & Senior Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 9, 2007
Messages
47,235 (7.55/day)
Location
Hyderabad, India
System Name RBMK-1000
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
Motherboard ASUS ROG Strix B450-E Gaming
Cooling DeepCool Gammax L240 V2
Memory 2x 8GB G.Skill Sniper X
Video Card(s) Palit GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER GameRock
Storage Western Digital Black NVMe 512GB
Display(s) BenQ 1440p 60 Hz 27-inch
Case Corsair Carbide 100R
Audio Device(s) ASUS SupremeFX S1220A
Power Supply Cooler Master MWE Gold 650W
Mouse ASUS ROG Strix Impact
Keyboard Gamdias Hermes E2
Software Windows 11 Pro
Samsung Display has announced that the world's leading certification company SGS certified its laptop OLED for gaming performance, which is featured in Samsung Electronics' latest laptop Galaxy Book Pro and Galaxy Book Pro 360. According to SGS's test results, the new Samsung Display OLED showed the blur length below 1.4 mm and the moving picture response time below 15.4 ms, both of which are crucial to enjoying dynamic and fast-paced action games. An LCD laptop with identical specs showed the maximum 2.1 mm blur length and the 26.4 ms moving picture response time. Its HDR contrast ratio, which quantifies the sharpness and the depth of an image, resulted in over 1,000,000:1.

According to Samsung Display, fast-paced video games that require higher performance often suffer degradations in image quality when played on a display with a long blur length, which could harm user experience. OLED has a very wide range of contrast thus offers more immersive gaming experience for consumers who favor dynamic, flamboyant games, Samsung Display says.



The new Samsung Display OLED for laptop is also certified for cinematic experience with its wide color gamut (120% of DCI-P3) and its low-luminance expression capability below 0.0005 nits. "As people spend more time home, laptop has become the go-to device not only for web-surfing and word-processing but also for watching movies and sports game and playing video games," Choi Soon-ho, director at Samsung Display said. "OLED is the very display that could meet consumers' various needs"

View at TechPowerUp Main Site
 

Space Lynx

Astronaut
Joined
Oct 17, 2014
Messages
17,220 (4.66/day)
Location
Kepler-186f
oh yeah baby ~ make the price right ~ so I can snuggle with this at night

why 15 ms latency???? I thought OLED had like 0.1 ms latency... I am so confused... @R-T-B
 
Joined
Feb 3, 2017
Messages
3,754 (1.32/day)
Processor Ryzen 7800X3D
Motherboard ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI
Memory 2x16GB G.Skill Flare X5 DDR5-6000 CL36 (F5-6000J3636F16GX2-FX5)
Video Card(s) INNO3D GeForce RTX™ 4070 Ti SUPER TWIN X2
Storage 2TB Samsung 980 PRO, 4TB WD Black SN850X
Display(s) 42" LG C2 OLED, 27" ASUS PG279Q
Case Thermaltake Core P5
Power Supply Fractal Design Ion+ Platinum 760W
Mouse Corsair Dark Core RGB Pro SE
Keyboard Corsair K100 RGB
VR HMD HTC Vive Cosmos
Shouldn't the title have OLED in it? This seems like a very important detail.

why 15 ms latency???? I thought OLED had like 0.1 ms latency... I am so confused... @R-T-B
MPRT is not latency. It is basically sample and hold time, in this case probably a 60Hz panel, so 15.4ms is good. Ideal would be 16.6ms without backlight shenanigans (which OLED cannot do in the same way).
From their press release:
Motion Picture Response Time is an international standard for display's response speed derived by measuring time for a single frame's afterimage to disappear.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Oct 16, 2014
Messages
671 (0.18/day)
System Name Work in progress
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard Asus PRIME B350M-A
Cooling Wraith Stealth Cooler, 4x140mm Noctua NF-A14 FLX 1200RPM Case Fans
Memory Corsair 16GB (2x8GB) CMK16GX4M2A2400C14R DDR4 2400MHz Vengeance LPX DIMM
Video Card(s) GTX 1050 2GB (for now) 3060 12GB on order
Storage Samsung 860 EVO 500GB, Lots of HDD storage
Display(s) 32 inch 4K LG, 55 & 48 inch LG OLED, 40 inch Panasonic LED LCD
Case Cooler Master Silencio S400
Audio Device(s) Sound: LG Monitor Built-in speakers (currently), Mike: Marantz MaZ
Power Supply Corsair CS550M 550W ATX Power Supply, 80+ Gold Certified, Semi-Modular Design
Mouse Logitech M280
Keyboard Logitech Wireless Solar Keyboard K750R (works best in summer)
VR HMD none
Software Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64bit OEM, Captur 1 21
Benchmark Scores Cinebench R20: 3508 (WIP)
Start saving. I doubt these will be cheap.
 
Joined
Oct 4, 2017
Messages
706 (0.27/day)
Location
France
Processor RYZEN 7 5800X3D
Motherboard Aorus B-550I Pro AX
Cooling HEATKILLER IV PRO , EKWB Vector FTW3 3080/3090 , Barrow res + Xylem DDC 4.2, SE 240 + Dabel 20b 240
Memory Viper Steel 4000 PVS416G400C6K
Video Card(s) EVGA 3080Ti FTW3
Storage XPG SX8200 Pro 512 GB NVMe + Samsung 980 1TB
Display(s) Dell S2721DGF
Case NR 200
Power Supply CORSAIR SF750
Mouse Logitech G PRO
Keyboard Meletrix Zoom 75 GT Silver
Software Windows 11 22H2
MPRT is not latency. It is basically sample and hold time, in this case probably a 60Hz panel, so 15.4ms is good. Ideal would be 16.6ms without backlight shenanigans (which OLED cannot do in the same way).
From their press release:

Indeed , he is confusing response time with latency but still he has a point . 15,4ms of response time is way too high for ''gaming'' panel especially an OLED panel which should sit around 0,2ms . Panel running at 60Hz doesn't change that fact as this should only have an impact on inverse ghosting compared to the same panel running at let's say 120Hz or more . Just to put things into perspective a decent 1440p pannel sits between 4-6ms of response time . So yeah i don't know whats going on with that OLED panel .
 
Last edited:
Joined
Feb 3, 2017
Messages
3,754 (1.32/day)
Processor Ryzen 7800X3D
Motherboard ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI
Memory 2x16GB G.Skill Flare X5 DDR5-6000 CL36 (F5-6000J3636F16GX2-FX5)
Video Card(s) INNO3D GeForce RTX™ 4070 Ti SUPER TWIN X2
Storage 2TB Samsung 980 PRO, 4TB WD Black SN850X
Display(s) 42" LG C2 OLED, 27" ASUS PG279Q
Case Thermaltake Core P5
Power Supply Fractal Design Ion+ Platinum 760W
Mouse Corsair Dark Core RGB Pro SE
Keyboard Corsair K100 RGB
VR HMD HTC Vive Cosmos
MPRT is not response time and it does not really affect ghosting. MPRT is how long a pixel (or a frame to simplify) gets shown. It is about persistence and kind of a measure of motion blur on sample-and-hold displays. This motion blur is much less straightforward to measure than response time and different people tend to have different sensitivity for it.
 
Joined
Apr 23, 2015
Messages
80 (0.02/day)
If those OLED 60Hz comes at the same price of, saying, a 120 or 180 IPS, i cannot see the point. Unless the come to more versatile products that has lower power and can be used for general multimedia, like a slim 14 gaming note.
 
Joined
Oct 16, 2014
Messages
671 (0.18/day)
System Name Work in progress
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard Asus PRIME B350M-A
Cooling Wraith Stealth Cooler, 4x140mm Noctua NF-A14 FLX 1200RPM Case Fans
Memory Corsair 16GB (2x8GB) CMK16GX4M2A2400C14R DDR4 2400MHz Vengeance LPX DIMM
Video Card(s) GTX 1050 2GB (for now) 3060 12GB on order
Storage Samsung 860 EVO 500GB, Lots of HDD storage
Display(s) 32 inch 4K LG, 55 & 48 inch LG OLED, 40 inch Panasonic LED LCD
Case Cooler Master Silencio S400
Audio Device(s) Sound: LG Monitor Built-in speakers (currently), Mike: Marantz MaZ
Power Supply Corsair CS550M 550W ATX Power Supply, 80+ Gold Certified, Semi-Modular Design
Mouse Logitech M280
Keyboard Logitech Wireless Solar Keyboard K750R (works best in summer)
VR HMD none
Software Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64bit OEM, Captur 1 21
Benchmark Scores Cinebench R20: 3508 (WIP)
If those OLED 60Hz comes at the same price of, saying, a 120 or 180 IPS, i cannot see the point. Unless the come to more versatile products that has lower power and can be used for general multimedia, like a slim 14 gaming note.
Deeper blacks and with good material it is like looks through a very clean window. Vidoe is taking over from the printed word.
 
Joined
Aug 20, 2007
Messages
21,467 (3.40/day)
System Name Pioneer
Processor Ryzen R9 9950X
Motherboard GIGABYTE Aorus Elite X670 AX
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon and Corsair Maglev blower fans...
Memory 64GB (4x 16GB) G.Skill Flare X5 @ DDR5-6000 CL30
Video Card(s) XFX RX 7900 XTX Speedster Merc 310
Storage Intel 905p Optane 960GB boot, +2x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs
Display(s) 55" LG 55" B9 OLED 4K Display
Case Thermaltake Core X31
Audio Device(s) TOSLINK->Schiit Modi MB->Asgard 2 DAC Amp->AKG Pro K712 Headphones or HDMI->B9 OLED
Power Supply FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W
Mouse Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless
Keyboard WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches + PBT DS keycaps
Software Gentoo Linux x64 / Windows 11 Enterprise IoT 2024
why 15 ms latency???? I thought OLED had like 0.1 ms latency... I am so confused... @R-T-B
Latency is not pixel response time.

I am slightly confused though as it seems like they blend the two terms together a bit. "blur" sounds a lot like pixel response.

EDIT: The above posters seem to have figured it out.
 
Joined
Oct 4, 2017
Messages
706 (0.27/day)
Location
France
Processor RYZEN 7 5800X3D
Motherboard Aorus B-550I Pro AX
Cooling HEATKILLER IV PRO , EKWB Vector FTW3 3080/3090 , Barrow res + Xylem DDC 4.2, SE 240 + Dabel 20b 240
Memory Viper Steel 4000 PVS416G400C6K
Video Card(s) EVGA 3080Ti FTW3
Storage XPG SX8200 Pro 512 GB NVMe + Samsung 980 1TB
Display(s) Dell S2721DGF
Case NR 200
Power Supply CORSAIR SF750
Mouse Logitech G PRO
Keyboard Meletrix Zoom 75 GT Silver
Software Windows 11 22H2
MPRT is not response time and it does not really affect ghosting. MPRT is how long a pixel (or a frame to simplify) gets shown. It is about persistence and kind of a measure of motion blur on sample-and-hold displays. This motion blur is much less straightforward to measure than response time and different people tend to have different sensitivity for it.

Emm NO , MPRT stands for ( Motion Picture Response Time ) so you can't say it's not response time , it's right there in the name !


Now with that being said there is indeed a distinction between GtG response time and MPRT ( i made the mistake myself in the previous comment ) but still 16ms is too much when compared to an 120Hz OLED wich would yield around 8,3ms .
 
Joined
Oct 16, 2014
Messages
671 (0.18/day)
System Name Work in progress
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard Asus PRIME B350M-A
Cooling Wraith Stealth Cooler, 4x140mm Noctua NF-A14 FLX 1200RPM Case Fans
Memory Corsair 16GB (2x8GB) CMK16GX4M2A2400C14R DDR4 2400MHz Vengeance LPX DIMM
Video Card(s) GTX 1050 2GB (for now) 3060 12GB on order
Storage Samsung 860 EVO 500GB, Lots of HDD storage
Display(s) 32 inch 4K LG, 55 & 48 inch LG OLED, 40 inch Panasonic LED LCD
Case Cooler Master Silencio S400
Audio Device(s) Sound: LG Monitor Built-in speakers (currently), Mike: Marantz MaZ
Power Supply Corsair CS550M 550W ATX Power Supply, 80+ Gold Certified, Semi-Modular Design
Mouse Logitech M280
Keyboard Logitech Wireless Solar Keyboard K750R (works best in summer)
VR HMD none
Software Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64bit OEM, Captur 1 21
Benchmark Scores Cinebench R20: 3508 (WIP)
Emm NO , MPRT stands for ( Motion Picture Response Time ) so you can't say it's not response time , it's right there in the name !


Now with that being said there is indeed a distinction between GtG response time and MPRT ( i made the mistake myself in the previous comment ) but still 16ms is too much when compared to an 120Hz OLED wich would yield around 8,3ms .
Quoting from your source:

Even though GtG can be fast, the MPRT can still be slow. Even for 60Hz OLED displays, the MPRT100% of most 60Hz displays is always at least 1/60sec = 16.7 milliseconds. This creates display motion blur even with instantaneous or near-instantaneous GtG.

From my own experience, 120hz OLEDs are better than 60hz OLEDs.
 
Joined
Oct 4, 2017
Messages
706 (0.27/day)
Location
France
Processor RYZEN 7 5800X3D
Motherboard Aorus B-550I Pro AX
Cooling HEATKILLER IV PRO , EKWB Vector FTW3 3080/3090 , Barrow res + Xylem DDC 4.2, SE 240 + Dabel 20b 240
Memory Viper Steel 4000 PVS416G400C6K
Video Card(s) EVGA 3080Ti FTW3
Storage XPG SX8200 Pro 512 GB NVMe + Samsung 980 1TB
Display(s) Dell S2721DGF
Case NR 200
Power Supply CORSAIR SF750
Mouse Logitech G PRO
Keyboard Meletrix Zoom 75 GT Silver
Software Windows 11 22H2
Quoting from your source:

Even though GtG can be fast, the MPRT can still be slow. Even for 60Hz OLED displays, the MPRT100% of most 60Hz displays is always at least 1/60sec = 16.7 milliseconds. This creates display motion blur even with instantaneous or near-instantaneous GtG.

From my own experience, 120hz OLEDs are better than 60hz OLEDs.

Yeah basically MPRT doesn't care about GtG it scales with refresh rate . What basically MPRT is saying is that higher framerates reduce motion blur , which is something most peoples know or at least should know . We need 1000Hz to get 1ms MPRT .
 
Top