So are you saying we should have more concentration camps for the unvaccinated? Seems like the dehumanization of unvaccinated people is almost complete, its the same thing that happens right before humans anywhere are treated like cattle. Maybe we should segregate them and send them in rail cars to be educated by the ministry of right think, what shall we do with those who still don't comply? How many jabs is enough to be acceptable comrade?
How about no more lockdowns and let people be free, if they want to die of a easily preventable disease they can, the same way they can die of eating too much, smoking tobacco or pot, taking drugs that are now legal...
You seem authoritarian and its not a good look.
That's what
you make of it, don't put your words in my mouth. Its not a strange thing to just make sure everyone who can
medically vaccinate just fine, actually does it. There is no oppression there whatsoever, you do it for a common good. And you can deploy lots of ways for it. We tried nudging, 100 dollar bills, and all sorts of other stuff from a positive approach. We tried explaining - research papers are just there to look at for all those self-proclaimed 'researchers' online. Not working apparently, look at the US - 60%. Sound bites on social media define what people do. Is that sanity? Is it 'just fine, let people do what they want'? Okay.
The next step quite simply is exclusion from society. After all, society is a mutual contract of giving and receiving, and right now, the balance is quite strange. Its very well possible a vaccinated majority is going to tell a refusing minority to take a hike. And I really hope that happens, yes. Because that will be the trigger for the vast majority of them to get a jab. Possibly enough for most countries to even hit the desired 85~90%. And at
that point, we can collectively, honestly not worry any longer about the minority. Thén we have the typical 'live and let live' status quo we want. Prior to that?
Whatever it takes.
You thank the last post but your response is based on a lot of assumption and personal opinion. That's fine, and typical, but you might have to consider all angles here. As much as we try to consider what it would be like for those unvaccinated, the same goes for that group - why is their approach fair towards the majority? An interesting question and the conclusion merits pretty far reaching measures, indeed. That's a majority with families, kids, homes and jobs, that are all on pause. Its about future generations, too.
The real question is, are you a 'have' or a 'have not'. Its really that simple. The world will go on. Its not nice to hear, but its reality, we have several thousand years of history to refer to wrt handling disease. All these suckers believing their idiot theories are on the shortest end of Darwin's stick, and I really don't care what you've read thinking otherwise. Its a reality, one of those 'uncomfortable truths' we have a lot of lately. And it faces the same stern denial, much like those still not believing in climate change or thinking the earth is flat. We know its impossible to defeat stupid, by now. Stupid needs guidance, with strong repercussions for not accepting it. Many systems in society are built on exactly that principle - just think of Taxes: do this, or else. Apparently they do work.
And note... your post almost got straight up personal, I hope you note this one is not, its a simple, fact based observation and prediction of what will happen because humans are humans. Uncomfortable, indeed. I didn't invent them... sorry.
Using the available global statistics where vaccinations have been used, deaths have been vastly reduced. However, I disagree with further lockdowns, event closures etc, given we have choices - vax or not. If you get vaccinated, the odds are more favourable, if you don't that's that person's choice. IMO, with the offer of vaccinations, it should be up to society how it moves forward. One caveat - this virus still sends people to hospital, and can big companies afford for that to happen in terms of productivity? Can healthcare cope? Not really.
You say that, until you figure out that healthcare is already steadily losing personnel and we haven't even remotely seen the last of it.
This is about the fabric of society - healthcare, education, logistics. As much as I disagree with locking down society even longer from an emotional standpoint, I think we are stuck between rock and hard place there. Opening schools? GL when the better half of teachers is going to drop out sooner rather than later. Opening society? Enjoy taking care of your new wounded with half your hospital staff. Never mind covid infections, just regular health care. Broke a leg? Sorry, no room today.
You've given the answer yourself. What you present is an impossible plan, as much as I, I'll say it again, emotionally completely agree. And from a personal standpoint, similarly, I really don't care about Covid. But the fact that others do, makes it a collective problem - such is the way of society - giving and receiving.
Also, interesting LQ choice.
Saw your edit.
