XMG NEO 15 E22 Laptop (i7-12700H/RTX 3080 Ti) + OASIS External Liquid Cooling System

[VSG]

XMG has been making waves in the enthusiast laptop community with its highly configurable gaming laptops offering good value for money. Today, we examine the NEO 15 (E22) fitted with the Intel Core i7-12700H and NVIDIA RTX 3080 TI, and pair it up with the novel XMG OASIS external watercooling system, too!

Show full review

 

[Space Lynx]

Amazing stuff, but only for the 1%

 

[VSG]

Amazing stuff, but only for the 1%

The OASIS unit should be compatible with upcoming laptops too, so this pairing is a sign of things to come.

Edit: lol @Oasis liking these posts about the OASIS.

 

[Chrispy_]

Lovelace and Meteor Lake are going to kill the high-end laptop market.

We're already beyond the point of "reasonable" power draw with high end Ampere and Alder Lake. Both successors are likely to increase this by 50% or more which will change things from "unreasonable" to "ridiculously stupid".

Edit:
Another thought on this - how is a watercooling system for an internal GPU any better than an eGPU in a dock? Once disconnected, the laptop is restricted in its capabilities either way but with an eGPU at least you can have a laptop that's relatively thin and portable with long battery life - something that's impossible if you're carrying around all of the heatsink and power delivery for a hungry desktop CPU and 3080Ti.

Moving the cooling system to the dock just means that when you do actually need portability you're forced to carry around a chunky plastic laptop with parts that have high power draw and are unsuitable or at least a poor choice for running off the battery in the first place. The air-cooling abilities of the laptop are somewhat compromised by the addition of (now non-functional) watercooling hardware. The double-stacked pipes in the cooling system (water pipe on top of heatpipe) mandates extra-flat, less effective heatpipes in the first place, and strictly rules out the option of a slimmer, lighter device.

 

[HenrySomeone]

Lovelace and Meteor Lake are going to kill the high-end laptop market.

We're already beyond the point of "reasonable" power draw with high end Ampere and Alder Lake. Both successors are likely to increase this by 50% or more which will change things from "unreasonable" to "ridiculously stupid".

Lovelace perhaps at least as far as having close to top end desktop chips in laptops, but why Meteor Lake? If everything goes well, it will come out on the Intel 4 process node which is better than anything out today.

 

[VEGGIM]

Lovelace and Meteor Lake are going to kill the high-end laptop market.

We're already beyond the point of "reasonable" power draw with high end Ampere and Alder Lake. Both successors are likely to increase this by 50% or more which will change things from "unreasonable" to "ridiculously stupid".

Edit:
Another thought on this - how is a watercooling system for an internal GPU any better than an eGPU in a dock? Once disconnected, the laptop is restricted in its capabilities either way but with an eGPU at least you can have a laptop that's relatively thin and portable with long battery life - something that's impossible if you're carrying around all of the heatsink and power delivery for a hungry desktop CPU and 3080Ti.

Moving the cooling system to the dock just means that when you do actually need portability you're forced to carry around a chunky plastic laptop with parts that have high power draw and are unsuitable or at least a poor choice for running off the battery in the first place. The air-cooling abilities of the laptop are somewhat compromised by the addition of (now non-functional) watercooling hardware. The double-stacked pipes in the cooling system (water pipe on top of heatpipe) mandates extra-flat, less effective heatpipes in the first place, and strictly rules out the option of a slimmer, lighter device.

Due to how egpu's have bandwith issues and even with some laptops driver issues. They can also be expensive. It's only worth if you already end up owning a GPU. They work well for 100% GPU loads but start to fail when CPU workloads also get involved.

 

[V3ctor]

The Oasis WC loop looks great, if only there were more laptops with these connections, Oasis would sell a bunch o closed loops

 

[mrthanhnguyen]

One day we will need a mora 420 to cool a laptop.

 

[VSG]

One day we will need a mora 420 to cool a laptop.

If you need one then that's not a laptop anymore. Want one, on the other hand, I can see someone doing.

 

[gQx]

no game performance test for a gaming laptop?

 

[VSG]

no game performance test for a gaming laptop?

No relevant laptops here to test against for context so I decided to just use game performance to test relative performance of various modes in pages 8 and 12.

 

[Chrispy_]

Lovelace perhaps at least as far as having close to top end desktop chips in laptops, but why Meteor Lake? If everything goes well, it will come out on the Intel 4 process node which is better than anything out today.

Because Intel.
They're not afraid to push whatever they make to 350W, regardless of process node. Intel 10 7 is significantly more efficient than Intel 14nm but Alder Lake on '7' still uses way more power than Rocket Lake on 14.

 

[bogmali]

guys any idea how the cpuz test gets over 1k ? my 12900ks only gets 870! DDR4 maybe to blame

This is a review thread, not for troubleshooting. Please create a new thread in the appropriate section