AMD Ryzen 7 7700X

[W1zzard]

With the Ryzen 7 7700X, AMD is introducing their fastest Zen 4 processor for gamers. In our review we found out that gaming on the 7700X runs better than the 7900X and 7950X, thanks to the single CCD design of the 7700X. Just like on other high-end AM5 CPUs, temperatures are a problem though.

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[Fleurious]

Looks good but those temps are spicy.

 

[phanbuey]

Well - it matches an OC on a 12600K... Loses in gaming. Gets beat quite badly by the old 5800x3d. I think the competition heating up from intel and their own x3d last gen part beating these in gaming, but this release feels underwhelming for the temps and $.

 

[champsilva]

Looks good but those temps are spicy.

12700K performance for the same price.

Yeah. 13600K will crush 7700X.

 

[Space Lynx]

Seeing as how all I do is gaming, I think if I can find the 5800x 3d on sale for around $350, I will go for that. Plus I can save on the ram and mobo costs that way too.

 

[kajson]

I'm a big fat AMD fan boy, I even own a bundle of stock, but I can't appreciate the choice of running out of the box oc's, which is the only thing i can call it when it runs 95 celcius on a decent air cooler.

I understand the competition with Intel is "heating up" but these are not temps the average costumer is best served with. It is not a GPU, it is not preinstalled with an after market cooler fitted by a company that knows what temps it will run before selling it.

If you want to go down this road, implement a solution where you can choose to run this setting as "opt in" in the bios. But let it run an efficiency mode by default. (Best performance vs more normal temps) like an spd xmp profile kinda thing.

Meh

 

[Space Lynx]

I'm a big fat AMD fan boy, I even own a bundle of stock, but I can't appreciate the choice of running out of the box oc's, which is the only thing i can call it when it runs 95 celcius on a decent air cooler.

I understand the competition with Intel is "heating up" but these are not temps the average costumer is best served with. It is not a GPU, it is not preinstalled with an after market cooler fitted by a company that knows what temps it will run before selling it.

If you want to go down this road, implement a solution where you can choose to run this setting as "opt in" in the bios. But let it run an efficiency mode by default. (Best performance vs more normal temps) like an spd xmp profile kinda thing.

Meh

in gaming it still runs cold though. that's 90% of people who buy this chip.

I think the integrated gpu stuff is non-sense though.

 

[Jism]

I'm a big fat AMD fan boy, I even own a bundle of stock, but I can't appreciate the choice of running out of the box oc's, which is the only thing i can call it when it runs 95 celcius on a decent air cooler.

I understand the competition with Intel is "heating up" but these are not temps the average costumer is best served with. It is not a GPU, it is not preinstalled with an after market cooler fitted by a company that knows what temps it will run before selling it.

If you want to go down this road, implement a solution where you can choose to run this setting as "opt in" in the bios. But let it run an efficiency mode by default. (Best performance vs more normal temps) like an spd xmp profile kinda thing.

Meh

You can disable that boosting.. and your CPU runs just within designed parameters.

Its just that, one workload is'nt the other. And you can easily boost a single thread application and still stick within it's TDP / Power consumption or temperature. They just put the ceiling to the max core temperature a tad higher compared to the 5x00, 3x00 or even 2x00 series. Nothing wrong with it.

 

[KaitouX]

The performance just looks like a more expensive 12700K, same goes for the 7600X which you could get a 12700F for the same price, the 7900X isn't as bad as it's slightly faster than the 12900K for the same price, but the lower power consumption in heavier workloads is a bit more significant than the lower-end parts, the stock power consumption in ST is atrocious though.
Overall disappointing in my opinion, but expected after the announcement, prices are way too high for what is being offered, roughly same performance as Intel 12th gen (with the exception of the 7950X), one year late.

 

[kajson]

in gaming it still runs cold though. that's 90% of people who buy this chip.

I think the integrated gpu stuff is non-sense though.

Yeah you are right probably about that. Just wish they would have gone bit more towards the efficiency side. Might be that future agesa updates and driver maturity also help those prefering a bit lower temps eventually.

 

[HD64G]

I'm a big fat AMD fan boy, I even own a bundle of stock, but I can't appreciate the choice of running out of the box oc's, which is the only thing i can call it when it runs 95 celcius on a decent air cooler.

I understand the competition with Intel is "heating up" but these are not temps the average costumer is best served with. It is not a GPU, it is not preinstalled with an after market cooler fitted by a company that knows what temps it will run before selling it.

If you want to go down this road, implement a solution where you can choose to run this setting as "opt in" in the bios. But let it run an efficiency mode by default. (Best performance vs more normal temps) like an spd xmp profile kinda thing.

Meh

That isn't a real problem with such easy solution. Just limit the power to 105W in UEFI and will drop temps drastically while sacrifising only 10% in multithreading performance. Gaming performance will be the same.

And thanks to the clock/core scaling analysis of @W1zzard we know for sure that the CPU AMD demoed reaching 5,5GHz while gaming was the 7700X.

 

[Gica]

Well - it matches an OC on a 12600K... Loses in gaming. Gets beat quite badly by the old 5800x3d. I think the competition heating up from intel and their own x3d last gen part beating these in gaming, but this release feels underwhelming for the temps and $.

Ryzen 7000 oc - Pyrrhic victory
In all tests, it loses performance with overclocking and even with Max PBO. As with Ryzen 5000, it's better to stay stock

 

[KrazedOmega]

I would still rather go with the 12700K over the 7700X based off the temps alone.

 

[mechtech]

@W1zzard

Do you have any plans do to an IPC comparison.

Like say set the clocks firm at 3Ghz and see how it compares??

thanks for the great review

 

[Space Lynx]

@W1zzard Just to let you know, Re-Size bar performance has bigger gains with Zen 4 according to the Techspot review... 30 fps gain... wowza

 

[W1zzard]

Re-Size bar

Interesting data, but nobody will use ReBAR off in 2022 and 2023 on a new platform

Do you have any plans do to an IPC comparison.

Like say set the clocks firm at 3Ghz and see how it compares??

Was hoping to, but didn't have the time.

"Which benchmark would you like to run for IPC?" was my biggest obstacle

 

[mechtech]

I would still rather go with the 12700K over the 7700X based off the temps alone.

I’d probably just go zen 3 if on zen platform already. Lots of sales lately with CPUs, motherboards and ram or just reuse ram and mobo and upgrade cpu.

 

[nguyen]

awesome reviews, so much information is presented.

 

[r9]

So marginally better performance for a lot more money on and yeah 12700k wipes the floor with it.
So the only incentive would be to get to this platform for future upgrades but do you really want to with the current money grab direction AMD is going ?!
Ah and yes the AMD "dominance" in the last few years where they never ever beat intel in gaming performance which is what most people care for while for anything else unless you do rendering no mater what you buy it will be an overkill anyways.

 

[Space Lynx]

Interesting data, but nobody will use ReBAR off in 2022 and 2023 on a new platform


Was hoping to, but didn't have the time.

"Which benchmark would you like to run for IPC?" was my biggest obstacle

I was under the impression REBAR only worked for AMD CPU and GPU when they were in the same system? so it would still matter if you had a ryzen cpu and a nvidia gpu or arc gpu, you would not be able to turn on REBAR? which could affect purchase of which cpu/gpu one goes with, if it is 30+ fps gains

 

[W1zzard]

I was under the impression REBAR only worked for AMD CPU and GPU when they were in the same system? so it would still matter if you had a ryzen cpu and a nvidia gpu or arc gpu, you would not be able to turn on REBAR? which could affect purchase of which cpu/gpu one goes with, if it is 30+ fps gains

No, it works on all modern AMD CPUs with all modern graphics cards from Intel, NVIDIA and AMD, and on all modern Intel CPUs with all modern graphics cards from AMD, NVIDIA and Intel.

The specification requires it to work universally, or not at all

 

[Vayra86]

Not a fan of this temp target at all, at stock. Its the same thing as Intel's hot chips - they're hot. Heat's gotta go somewhere.

 

[The Quim Reaper]

Disappointed in the RPCS3 figures...was the 12900K used in the test an older example, still running with AVX 512 enabled?

Nearly 40% slower seems strange given that the new Ryzens have AVX 512 as well

 

[Lovec1990]

So marginally better performance for a lot more money on and yeah 12700k wipes the floor with it.
So the only incentive would be to get to this platform for future upgrades but do you really want to with the current money grab direction AMD is going ?!
Ah and yes the AMD "dominance" in the last few years where they never ever beat intel in gaming performance which is what most people care for while for anything else unless you do rendering no mater what you buy it will be an overkill anyways.

Well im more worried Intel gonna set Raptor Lake prices higher than AMD considering it cant beat Alder Lake.

 

[Raendor]

Well im more worried Intel gonna set Raptor Lake prices higher than AMD considering it cant beat Alder Lake.

Not if they want to crush AMD and convincingly dominate the market share.