NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Super Founders Edition

[W1zzard]

The NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Super launches today, boasting a solid increase in GPU cores, ROP units and cache. This enhancement brings its performance much closer to that of the GeForce RTX 4070 Ti, at a price point of $600 that signals strong competition for AMD's Radeon RX 7800 XT.

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[Chaitanya]

7800Xt is 16.67% cheaper while being around 7% slower overall not worth spending extra $100 for this GPU.

 

[wolf]

Right around where we expected based on specs. A positive, albeit small, move in the right direction. Pricing in local markets will be key, MSRP based on USD and best case scenario isn't the instant deal sealing factor some might argue, those prices muse actually be relevant to you, locally stocked and ready to buy for competing products.

 

[usiname]

That is what the 4070 should have been from the start

 

[gridracedriver]

Great job now, disruptive card for Nvidia that destroys AMD in both the RT market of the 7900 and the raster market of the 7800.

 

[las]

Decent bump, I look forward to 4070 Ti SUPER and 4080 SUPER reviews, not that I want one but new stuff is already great

5090 is the next card for me, hopefully Q4

 

[Beginner Macro Device]

7800Xt is 16.67% cheaper while being around 7% slower overall not worth spending extra $100 for this GPU.

Nope, 7800 XT's position turned from shaky to super dead.

Compared to 4070 Super, it has:
• Worse upscaler.
• Worse XeSS support.
• Severely worse RT performance.
• Worse energy efficiency.
• Worse raw raster performance.
• Worse professional workload support.
• More reasonable power connector.
• Better VRAM capacity and bandwidth.
• Lower price.

And no, the latter three don't save it. 4070 Super is a good (not awesome but good) value product and at MSRP VS MSRP, it will outsell 7800 XT hard. It also makes 7900 XT being more expensive than 650 USD a bad value SKU.

 

[las]

7800Xt is 16.67% cheaper while being around 7% slower overall not worth spending extra $100 for this GPU.

You pay for better perf, features and less power usage, which adds up over time

7% better performance in raster, much better perf in rt and pt, way better features (DLSS/DLAA/Reflex/DLDSR etc), less power usage og lower temps on custom cards

100% worth it and AMD needs to drop 7800XT to 449 or even lower if they wants to sell much

4070 already outsold 7800XT like crazy, now 4070 gets even cheaper and 4070 SUPER joins the lineup

AMD is forced to lower their entire 7000 pricing from 7700XT and up

Next week 4070 Ti SUPER will force 7900XT to sub 600 dollars

4080 SUPER will force 7900XTX to sub 800 dollars

People are not paying Nvidia prices for AMD hardware. AMD will have to react, unless they won't bother with low GPU sales, which it looks like. Afterall AMD uses the same process node for both CPUs, APUs and GPUs, and they earn more per wafer on CPUs and APUs.

 

[theouto]

What it should've always been, though I argue that the pricing should've been kept at 499, as with the 3070, but hey, baby steps, right?

 

[Denver]

Interesting how the performance didn't increase that much in relation to the specs.

Regarding the review, some suggestions: How difficult would it be to move the data into a more interactive presentation? For example, I'd like to be able to choose the games that interest me, removing aberrations that run @ 400-500fps like Doom and CS2, as well as the infamous simulator that runs at 50fps on high-end GPUs, and set my custom FPS average.

Second point, it doesn't make sense for the maximum consumption to be 215w, if there is a peak of 239w. There is no point in having two graphics, the maximum consumption is 239w or not?

 

[Beginner Macro Device]

Interesting how the performance didn't increase that much in relation to the specs.

4070 Ti runs at stable 2800+ MHz and has 285 W worth of power limit.
4070 Super runs at 2700 MHz and has 225 W worth of power limit. You cannot expect it to be on par with a Ti.

 

[W1zzard]

How difficult would it be to move the data into a more interactive presentation?

not that hard, but it will result in a huge drop in social sharing of our charts -> less traffic -> less $$ -> less time to justify all those reviews with all this testing

Second point, it doesn't make sense for the maximum consumption to be 215w, if there is a peak of 239w. There is no point in having two graphics, the maximum consumption is 239w or not?

Check the test description at the start of the power page, it will make a lot of sense

 

[las]

Thanks for another great review, looking forward to 4070 Ti SUPER and 4080 SUPER in the following weeks

4070 Ti runs at stable 2800+ MHz and has 285 W worth of power limit.
4070 Super runs at 2700 MHz and has 225 W worth of power limit. You cannot expect it to be on par with a Ti.

3 GHz is easily possible with both

4070 Ti was going to be faster regardless

40 vs 35 TFLOPS / 7680:240:80 vs 7168:224:80

This was the biggest bump in the SUPER refresh, I expect around 10% for 4070 Ti SUPER and 6-8% for 4080 SUPER (while costing 200 dollars less)

 

[Onasi]

Yeah, seems like my next card. Good performance at a… reasonable by market standards price. The Asus one seems especially good, no frills, no fuss, install and forget card. This is what the 4070 should have been from the start, but oh well.
As mentioned above, the 7800XT at MSRP is now dead. It needs to be price cut to make sense again. 4 gigs more VRAM will not help it. Honestly, AMD just overall needs to start taking the GPU division seriously instead of being content with being “like NV, but slightly cheaper and slightly worse”.

 

[Hugis]

Thank you so much for all these reviews and you have just got back from CES and smashed out 5 reviews, top stuff.
As allways amazing work again @W1zzard!

 

[W1zzard]

and you have just got back from CES

I didn't go to CES, spent the time on a cruise with the family, was back on Thursday, like 20+ more GPU reviews coming this month

 

[wolf]

Looking through the other reviews I notice all cards tested today are MSRP cards, very cool to see, no big premiums for a better cooler here today, should you want one you could in theory just pick based on aesthetics, size, temps etc. Nice.

Always a pain to see premium versions (Strix, Suprim, Aorus Master) etc on lower end cards where the premium makes no sense... like enormous 2/3 fan 3050's and 6500XT's

 

[Hugis]

I didn't go to CES, spent the time on a cruise with the family, was back on Thursday, like 20+ more GPU reviews coming this month

ahh , it just coincided , hope you had a great holiday btw

Moar reviews, bring it on!

 

[dj-electric]

Im surprised to see such high OC on the FE model. @W1zzard
Mine snaps out of consciousness much before reaching these GPU and MEM clocks. Interesting. That AORUS Master clocks are even more mind boggling to me

 

[Onasi]

Oh, BTW, @W1zzard, can you confirm or deny whether the power connector has been updated to the new 2x6 connector as some speculated or if the older one is still used? Just out of curiosity, doubt even the older one would have any issues on this card.

 

[BoggledBeagle]

I do not know what is the reasoning behind first making a special edition of the card, and then making just limited numbers of it, not selling any in some countries at all. I like these cards but I cannot buy them here! F**k you, Nvidia!

 

[Frick]

Had this been avaliable in september I'd have gotten it, but as it is I'm still happy I got the 6950xt when I did.

 

[mxthunder]

No surprises here. Pretty cool. Always better to have more choices than less and any new GPU is a good thing.

 

[Delta6326]

Oh, BTW, @W1zzard, can you confirm or deny whether the power connector has been updated to the new 2x6 connector as some speculated or if the older one is still used? Just out of curiosity, doubt even the older one would have any issues on this card.

All GeForce RTX 4070 Super graphics cards use the 12+4 pin ATX 12VHPWR connector, an adapter cable is included in the box.

 

[W1zzard]

updated to the new 2x6 connector

Nope, exact same connector and adapter cable, which has been used successfully millions of times