ASUS GeForce RTX 4070 Super Dual

[W1zzard]

The ASUS GeForce RTX 4070 Super Dual is sold at NVIDIA MSRP of $600. You still get a greatly improved triple-slot cooler with a dual BIOS feature. Testing in our review confirms that the noise levels with the quiet BIOS are whisper quiet and temperatures are still good.

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[Deleted member 237269]

Not a bad looking 4070 Super and spec are decent.
Thanks for the review W1zzard.

 

[droopyRO]

What is the ambient temperature you are testing at ?

 

[Sunlight91]

Thanks for including Stable Diffusion in the benchmarks. I bought a 4070 in August for £550 mainly for this task. I got an over 600% upgrade from my 6700XT. I'm a bit bummed about the SUPER series, but for my case SUPER it is only a 5% value improvement. VRAM is the same so I couldn't even generate bigger images.

While AMD is bad at Stable Diffusion the 7000 series shouldn't be nearly as bad as in your charts. Toms Hardware has the 7900XTX equal to the 3070. Did you miss the AMD optimizations?

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For 768x768 it even matches the 3070Ti. No need to include 768x768 right now because the new trend is SDXL models with a 1024x1024 resolution. You can leave this one for next-gen GPUs.

 

[W1zzard]

Did you miss the AMD optimizations?

I did follow that guide and optimized Olive for every single card

 

[bug]

AMD RX 7800 XT also has 16 GB VRAM, but in most games it still loses to the 12 GB 4070 Super.

Sure, it loses now. But FineWine, 5 years down the road the 7800XT will be wiping the floor with these

 

[Why_Me]

Sure, it loses now. But FineWine, 5 years down the road the 7800XT will be wiping the floor with these

A lot of peeps are doing a rebuild by then.

 

[Henk Hilti]

Small issue, I think you placed the incorrect "power graph" in this article (graph shows max power of 170W for Asus RTX 4070 Super Dual, charts show 217W)

 

[Markosz]

More expensive, same performance/price ratio... great, expensive GPUs are here to stay.

 

[W1zzard]

Small issue, I think you placed the incorrect "power graph" in this article (graph shows max power of 170W for Asus RTX 4070 Super Dual, charts show 217W)

Fixed, thanks!

 

[Dave65]

A lot of peeps are doing a rebuild by then.

I wont take 5 years, more like a year..

 

[pepo930]

I'll compare the MSRP cards:
INNO3D RTX 4070 Super Twin X2
ASUS RTX 4070 SUPER Dual
Founders Edition RTX 4070 SUPER
Zotac RTX 4070 SUPER Twin Edge
Palit/Gainward RTX 4070 SUPER Dual

Zotac Trinity is not MSRP.

Comparison:
FE, PNY, Zotac and Gainward/Palit have 7phase VRMs
Inno3D and ASUS have 8 phase VRMs

PNY, Inno3D, Zotac and Gainward/Palit have locked power limit
FE and ASUS have +10% power limit
ASUS has dual-bios and can be flashed with BIOS from TUF model for +15% power limit

Inno3D has best cooling
ASUS has good cooling
FE has ok cooling
PNY, Zotac, Palit/Gainward have bad cooling

For normal use - Inno3D is best
For overclocking - ASUS is best

 

[citajtepozorne]

thanks for review. i picked one yesterday, because of +10% power limit. this thing overclocks like a beast. +255mhz core, +1550 memory, +10% power limit, 84C thermal limit. memory crashes at around +1750, above +1600 mem lowers the result. BTW +1500 MEM is 24gbps :O (stock is 21gbps). also core +260 crashes. Tested stability in one scene alan wake - everything maxed 4k DLSS perf with path tracing, from 46 to 52 fps (13%). and here is 3d mark comparision between stock and OC : https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/45072424/spy/45068554#

 

[arbiter]

thanks for review. i picked one yesterday, because of +10% power limit. this thing overclocks like a beast. +255mhz core, +1550 memory, +10% power limit, 84C thermal limit. memory crashes at around +1750, above +1600 mem lowers the result. BTW +1500 MEM is 24gbps :O (stock is 21gbps). also core +260 crashes. Tested stability in one scene alan wake - everything maxed 4k DLSS perf with path tracing, from 46 to 52 fps (13%). and here is 3d mark comparision between stock and OC : https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/45072424/spy/45068554#

here is what mind did at stock, haven't really did anything with OCing. https://www.3dmark.com/spy/45167178
gonna start probably with a +150 and +1000.

 

[Deleted member 237813]

I have one here. Terrible card in my opinion they clearly took the 4070 cooler and strapped it on the super. its hot and loud at least for my taste it also looks very cheap shiny black plastic. The funny thing with overclock and the 10+% in powerlimit it reaches 4070ti stock performance of my panther 70ti but its loud especially if you overclock it. memory is cooking. coil whine is terrible too like most asus gpus for whatever reason.

not recommended.

 

[dastunta]

The memory temps look relatively quite high, especially in Quiet BIOS mode. Is this a concern in real world usage?

	GPU​	Noise​	GPU​	Hotspot​	Memory​	Noise​	RPM​
	Idle​	Gaming​
Temperature & Noise Comparison
ASUS RTX 4070 Super Dual	39°C​	Fan Stop​	65°C​	80°C​	75°C​	33.4 dBA​	1422 RPM​
ASUS RTX 4070 Super Dual (Quiet BIOS)	39°C​	Fan Stop​	68°C​	79°C​	84°C​	29.0 dBA​	1252 RPM​

 

[Deleted member 229121]

I have one here. Terrible card in my opinion they clearly took the 4070 cooler and strapped it on the super. its hot and loud at least for my taste it also looks very cheap shiny black plastic. The funny thing with overclock and the 10+% in powerlimit it reaches 4070ti stock performance of my panther 70ti but its loud especially if you overclock it. memory is cooking. coil whine is terrible too like most asus gpus for whatever reason.

not recommended.

Is it really that much worse than the 4070 with only a 20W TDP difference?
I have the Dual OC 4070 (regular), and for me the card runs cool as a cucumber, I don't ever think I've even seen it get beyond low 60s under full load.

 

[Deleted member 237813]

duals are cooing esüpecially the memory on the asus. but it has 240 watt powerlimit good for some freid eggs. trash cards as usual you only get good nvidia cards if you pay even more.

al world usage?

no but it doesnt need to be.

 

[W1zzard]

Is this a concern in real world usage?

Not at all, the cutoff is 100-120°C

 

[Deleted member 237813]

110

 

[arbiter]

you can run at -20% power with very little to no noticable loss in performance.

 

[Deleted member 237813]

you can run at -20% power with very little to no noticable loss in performance.

how often do i need to read this bullshit. try alan wake with rt and pt on 80%. your clock speeds will drop to 2000mhz and you will loose a ton of performance. just 1 example. especially on the 4070s and ti super.

 

[bug]

how often do i need to read this bullshit. try alan wake with rt and pt on 80%. your clock speeds will drop to 2000mhz and you will loose a ton of performance. just 1 example. especially on the 4070s and ti super.

According to TPU's review, RT alone makes the 4070 series play at anything other than FHD. Throw PT in there and you can't play regardless of whether you constrain the max power or not.
In other words, you can't lose "a ton of performance" if you don't have "a ton of performance" to begin with

 

[arbiter]

how often do i need to read this bullshit. try alan wake with rt and pt on 80%. your clock speeds will drop to 2000mhz and you will loose a ton of performance. just 1 example. especially on the 4070s and ti super.

I was running -20% on robocop still doing 2.7ghz gpu with 98+% load max settings. So before you claim some insanely dumb stuff like you just did, try doing it yourself so you don't look like an idiot.

Reran a timespy, going from PT of 110% to 80% lost only 8-9%. you don't realize that at a point every mhz increase at top takes more and more power. to go from 2000to 2100 mhz gpu takes far less power then 2600 to 2700. https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/45229754/spy/45167178

 

[Deleted member 237813]

you don't look like an idiot.

Grow up.

have a nice day