PNY GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super Verto OC

[W1zzard]

The PNY GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super Verto, priced at the MSRP of $800, features a decent triple-slot, triple-fan cooler. This configuration ensures good temperatures and noise levels. Additionally, the card comes with an out-of-the-box overclock of +15 MHz, which, while not substantial, still contributes to enhanced performance.

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[Keivz]

Memory bandwidth this, vram limits that. In the real world, turns out the arm chair architects were blowing things out of proportion. Who would have thought? Great review and well written conclusion.

Big fan of pny cards fwiw. My pny 4090 is cool and quiet in a solidly built, relatively small form factor.

 

[thunderingroar]

Does anyone know if XLR8 4070 Ti Super uses thes same cooler as the XLR8 4070 Ti?

Memory bandwidth this, vram limits that. In the real world, turns out the arm chair architects were blowing things out of proportion.

Or you know, the card has bad launch day drivers?

Apparently expecting that more cuda cores, higher clock speeds and memory bandwidth should make the GPUs faster makes you an arm chair architect nowadays??

 

[Keivz]

Does anyone know if XLR8 4070 Ti Super uses thes same cooler as the XLR8 4070 Ti?


Or you know, the card has bad launch day drivers?

Apparently expecting that more cuda cores, higher clock speeds and memory bandwidth should make the GPUs faster makes you an arm chair architect nowadays??

The gpu clock speeds are the same. It has only 10% more cuda cores than its non-super variant, and gets a real world 7-10% increase in performance. Shocker.

 

[PATHGALORE]

Are we going to ignore the fact that the 7900xt is more power efficient than 4070ti super?
Chiplet gpu on 5nm more efficient then monolithic gpu made on 4 nm?
LOL, so much for Nvidia efficiency...

 

[Garrus]

Are we going to ignore the fact that the 7900xt is more power efficient than 4070ti super?
Chiplet gpu on 5nm more efficient then monolithic gpu made on 4 nm?
LOL, so much for Nvidia efficiency...

Yeah it actually surprised me how inefficient this chip is. The RTX 4080 was top of the charts for efficiency, not this one. This card isn't any better than the 7800 XT 7900 XT or XTX. In fact the XTX is much better. Surprising.

 

[thunderingroar]

The gpu clock speeds are the same. It has only 10% more cuda cores than its non-super variant, and gets a real world 7-10% increase in performance. Shocker.

I was comparing it to 4080 since they both use the same AD103 die, 4070Ti Super is clocked higher (2.6GHz vs 2.5), has almost the same mem bandwidth and ~15% less cuda cores. In reality this should be closer to RTX 4080 in performance (like within 5-10%), but i suspect something is off with pre release drivers, which is also something that Steve from HUB ran into and Nvidia supplied him with updated firmware (which strangely didnt make much a difference)

 

[Nekajo]

Are we going to ignore the fact that the 7900xt is more power efficient than 4070ti super?
Chiplet gpu on 5nm more efficient then monolithic gpu made on 4 nm?
LOL, so much for Nvidia efficiency...

What are you talking about, 7900 XT uses 20 watts more in gaming here.

Chiplet / MCM literally SHOULD use much less power than monolithic. Yet AMD failed here. They tried to pull a Ryzen on the GPU market but failed.

Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super review: More VRAM and bandwidth, slightly higher performance

There's surprisingly little uplift in most games from the memory upgrades.

www.tomshardware.com

And i quote

"Nvidia's Ada Lovelace architecture clearly reigns as the power efficiency champion — we have performance per watt data in the tables at the bottom of the page. The new 4070 Ti Super has a TGP (total graphics power) rating of 285W, the same as the vanilla 4070 Ti. In our test suite, it averaged 224W at 1080p medium, 249W at 1080p ultra, 268W at 1440p ultra, and 283W at 4K ultra. That's about 15–20 watts more than the 4070 Ti Founders Edition at each setting, but still below the rated TGP in most cases.

Performance on average comes very close to matching the RX 7900 XTX, while drawing about 75W less power. It also outperforms the 7900 XT by around 13% and uses about 25–50 watts less power, and ranges from 5W less to 30W more power than the RX 7800 XT while delivering up to 45% more performance.

In general, the RTX 40-series GPUs are roughly 30–50 percent more efficient than AMD's competing RX 7000-series RDNA 3 GPUs."

The gpu clock speeds are the same. It has only 10% more cuda cores than its non-super variant, and gets a real world 7-10% increase in performance. Shocker.

True, 4070 to 4070 SUPER was a 22% improvement in cores, resulted in ~15% performance.

4070 Ti to 4070 Ti SUPER is 10% improvement in cores, the VRAM and bus width don't really affect performance much since it was not a limiting factor to begin with and the end result is 5-6% which is the same increase as 4070 to 4070 SUPER percentage-wise.

The bus width helps slightly more in 4K, but who really buys this card for native 4K gaming, most 4K gamers I know use DLSS or FSR anyway.

Personally I look at 1440p testing. The middle-ground. Don't care about 1080p or 4K really. I did not use 1080p for years and the 1440p result is going to be more in line with 4K using DLSS/FSR anyway.

Many 4K gamers even uses DLSS Performance mode which is 1080p internally but it looks quite decent actually.

 

[PATHGALORE]

Yeah, i am going to have to disagree with you.

 

[AnotherReader]

What are you talking about, 7900 XT uses 20 watts more in gaming here.

Chiplet / MCM literally SHOULD use much less power than monolithic. Yet AMD failed here. They tried to pull a Ryzen on the GPU market but failed.

Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super review: More VRAM and bandwidth, slightly higher performance

There's surprisingly little uplift in most games from the memory upgrades.

www.tomshardware.com

And i quote

"Nvidia's Ada Lovelace architecture clearly reigns as the power efficiency champion — we have performance per watt data in the tables at the bottom of the page. The new 4070 Ti Super has a TGP (total graphics power) rating of 285W, the same as the vanilla 4070 Ti. In our test suite, it averaged 224W at 1080p medium, 249W at 1080p ultra, 268W at 1440p ultra, and 283W at 4K ultra. That's about 15–20 watts more than the 4070 Ti Founders Edition at each setting, but still below the rated TGP in most cases.

Performance on average comes very close to matching the RX 7900 XTX, while drawing about 75W less power. It also outperforms the 7900 XT by around 13% and uses about 25–50 watts less power, and ranges from 5W less to 30W more power than the RX 7800 XT while delivering up to 45% more performance.

In general, the RTX 40-series GPUs are roughly 30–50 percent more efficient than AMD's competing RX 7000-series RDNA 3 GPUs."


True, 4070 to 4070 SUPER was a 22% improvement in cores, resulted in ~15% performance.

4070 Ti to 4070 Ti SUPER is 10% improvement in cores, the VRAM and bus width don't really affect performance much since it was not a limiting factor to begin with and the end result is 5-6% which is the same increase as 4070 to 4070 SUPER percentage-wise.

The bus width helps slightly more in 4K, but who really buys this card for native 4K gaming, most 4K gamers I know use DLSS or FSR anyway.

Personally I look at 1440p testing. The middle-ground. Don't care about 1080p or 4K really. I did not use 1080p for years and the 1440p result is going to be more in line with 4K using DLSS/FSR anyway.

Many 4K gamers even uses DLSS Performance mode which is 1080p internally but it looks quite decent actually.

Chiplet GPUs will always use more power than monolithic GPUs; that is the price of high speed off-chip interconnect, i.e. the connection between the MCDs and the GCD. The advantage, which hasn't manifested in consumer GPUs yet, is that you can build a much larger GPU than even the largest monolithic GPU. Contrast AMD's MI300X with the 7900 XTX; the MI300X dies have a collective 320 CUs compared to the 96 CUs for the 7900 XTX.

 

[Septemvri]

In November TPU chose PNY as special partner for GPU reviews but since June there are zero XLR8 reviews. No Tis, no Supers, nothing. Hate to see this plain model being THE hottest of the lot and among the loudest.

 

[W1zzard]

In November TPU chose PNY as special partner for GPU reviews but since June there are zero XLR8 reviews. No Tis, no Supers, nothing. Hate to see this plain model being THE hottest of the lot and among the loudest.

Yeah I would have loved to have XLR8 for Super reviews, too. Will discuss with PNY. But at least this clears up any conspiracy theories that we're giving them special treatment in the reviews

 

[Keivz]

In November TPU chose PNY as special partner for GPU reviews but since June there are zero XLR8 reviews. No Tis, no Supers, nothing. Hate to see this plain model being THE hottest of the lot and among the loudest.

I just realized XLR8 is short for accelerate

 

[Lew Zealand]

What are you talking about, 7900 XT uses 20 watts more in gaming here.

And it gets more FPS. Efficiency is a ratio, W1zz calculates and reports it. In this very review you're commenting on!

The 7900 XT is slightly more efficient than the 4070 TiTi, denial doesn't change that.

 

[Talon]

Looking at the PCB analysis, what is that additional phase on the north side of the card that is not counted? Is that not the 9th phase?

 

[W1zzard]

Looking at the PCB analysis, what is that additional phase on the north side of the card that is not counted? Is that not the 9th phase?

You are right, I missed it, fixed

 

[GabbersUnite]

may i have a question?!
if i see the rev about the 4070Ti, the average fps in 1440p is 170FPS.... and if i check the 4070Ti Super rev this number is 137FPS... is tis OK?! how is this possible?!
_o_

 

[Lew Zealand]

may i have a question?!
if i see the rev about the 4070Ti, the average fps in 1440p is 170FPS.... and if i check the 4070Ti Super rev this number is 137FPS... is tis OK?! how is this possible?!
_o_

Different games. Use the navigation popup to have a look at the list in each review as W1zz updates with new ones and drops old ones as needed.

 

[GabbersUnite]

OK.
now i have no idea what to buy?! Gainward or (this) PNY version of 70TiS....
my last GW card was a 3070Ti.... PNY never stayed in my pc case.... tried to find any "feedback" about the PNY cards... nothing helpful...

 

[sLowEnd]

OK.
now i have no idea what to buy?! Gainward or (this) PNY version of 70TiS....
my last GW card was a 3070Ti.... PNY never stayed in my pc case.... tried to find any "feedback" about the PNY cards... nothing helpful...

If it's the Gainward is the Super Phoenix model that was reviewed

Gainward GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super Phoenix GS Review

The Gainward GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super features an impressive triple-slot, triple-fan cooling solution with well-tuned fan settings, providing a balanced experience with low noise levels and temperatures. Additionally, it comes equipped with a factory overclock, boosting the rated speed to 2670 MHz.

www.techpowerup.com

I'd lean towards the Gainward because it has a better and quieter cooler.

PNY GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super Verto OC Review

The PNY GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super Verto, priced at the MSRP of $800, features a decent triple-slot, triple-fan cooler. This configuration ensures good temperatures and noise levels. Additionally, the card comes with an out-of-the-box overclock of +15 MHz, which, while not substantial, still...

www.techpowerup.com

 

[rozplay]

@W1zzard Thanks for the review. The graphs indicate that this card has a fan stop feature, but everything I've read says that it actually has a minimum of 30% RPM....