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AMD Readies Ryzen 8000GE Line of 35W Desktop APUs

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AMD's small but fledgling Ryzen 8000 line of Socket AM5 desktop APUs is about to grow, with the addition of four new low-power SKUs, under the Ryzen 8000GE line. These chips come with a TDP of 35 W compared to the 65 W of the regular 8000G APUs, and a lowered PPT (package power tracking) value, making them energy-efficient variants. To be clear, these are not AMD's 8000-series APUs meant for the commercial desktop market, for that the company has the Ryzen PRO 8000 series and Ryzen PRO 7000 series.

The Ryzen 8000GE series are meant to square off against Intel's 14th Gen Core T-series SKUs that have processor base power values of 35 W, and significantly lower maximum turbo power values than the regular processor models. To carve out these chips, AMD has lowered the clock speeds and TDP compared to the regular 8000G series. Since the underlying 4 nm "Hawk Point" silicon achieves fairly good clocks in its 35 W HS-segment notebook processors, one can expect reasonably good boost residency with the 8000GE desktop chips.



The lineup is led by the Ryzen 7 8700GE, with a base frequency of 3.65 GHz compared to the 4.20 GHz of the 8700G; followed by the Ryzen 5 8600GE with 3.90 GHz base frequency compared to the 4.35 GHz of the 8600G; the Ryzen 5 8500GE and the 8300GE, which drop their base frequencies by 150 MHz on their "Zen 4" cores, compared to the 8500G and 8300G, respectively. All four chips come with 35 W TDP. There are even Ryzen PRO GE variants, which come with the AMD PRO feature set, and an identical set of clock speeds.

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Are these ever available in retail(similar to T series from Intel)? Other than handful of AIO and SFF from large OEMs have rarely these low power SKUs being made available in retail channels.
 
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Probably a good thing considering the performance per watt significantly decreases as wattage goes up. For reference, The Ryzen R9 4900HS on my laptop using CinebenchR23, manages 390 points per watt at a 20W TDP, whereas it manages only a 166 point per watt at a 70W TDP....diminishing returns for sure...
 

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If GPU prices remain in the ridiculous territory, I'll be happy to build my PC around one of these. Ok, maybe not GE, but the regular G. As soon as you give up gaming, you realize even the puniest IGP from Intel is pretty capable these days. You can build some tiny boxes that will pack a hell of a punch (not me though, I have 4 SSDs, so I need some space).
 
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Are these ever available in retail(similar to T series from Intel)? Other than handful of AIO and SFF from large OEMs have rarely these low power SKUs being made available in retail channels.
They might have some appeal if they were significantly cheaper than G chips, which won't happen. Intel T chips have the same price in retail as those without suffix - actually they often cost more because a limited number of retailers stock them. I expect a similar situation on the red side.
 
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