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Frogware's "The Sinking City 2" Has Evolved into a Full-Blown Horror Game

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The characters in a Lovecraft story are susceptible to… mutation. Minds and bodies are forever altered by exposure to the horrors hiding in the darker corners of the world. It's perhaps no surprise, then, that The Sinking City 2—which just got a world premiere in the latest Xbox Partner Preview broadcast—has undergone its own unexpected change. Where the first game was a detective adventure, with horror bubbling up from its flooded world, its sequel has taken on a darker, more aggressive form. The Sinking City 2 is a true horror game now, with more emphasis on combat, while keeping a Lovecraftian narrative close to its twisted heart.

"The Sinking City is one of our most successful titles, because of our stronger horror genre leanings and the setting," Frogwares Head of Publishing, Sergey Oganesyan tells me. "For us, it was kind of a breakthrough, and we are super excited to work on a full-scale horror game. We have created quite a few detective adventures in the past, so now we're going to mix things up to keep doing what people love from us - meaning story-rich experiences - while still being able to evolve."




The result is a game with a similar set-up, but a very different execution. Like the first game, Frogwares are using an early 20th Century setting, a city afflicted by flooding, and an outsider stepping into a situation they cannot comprehend. But unlike the original, we're now being thrown headfirst into a horror story (rendered in the powerful Unreal Engine 5)—and the city in question is an unexpectedly familiar place.

"It's mid-1920s America, as the country goes full steam ahead into the boom years after the First World War," explains Oganesyan. "But in some corners of the US, there is no glitz and glam. The city of Arkham (a name that should be familiar to most Lovecraft fans—and not to be confused by Batman fans) has been the victim of an ongoing flood of unknown, supernatural origins."


Oganesyan tells me that the team will be staying quiet on the precise details of the story, but hints that it will pull from new Lovecraft stories, as well as the original game's influences—and will feature "iconic Lovecraftian monsters like the Deep Ones more front and center." But Frogwares has always been a studio that puts its own spin on classic influences (this is the studio famous for its Sherlock Holmes games, after all) - and creating a truly original horror story is their key concern.

"The rot and decay from the waters have become constant," continues Oganesyan. "In the darker corners of the gloom are creatures not of this world. And the population's minds have twisted and contorted to the point where they are somehow used to it all. This is the world our character steps into on a mission that won't be made clear to you right away." That character isn't the first game's lead, Charles Reed—Frogwares aren't yet ready to talk about who he is - but it was a very purposeful choice to offer players some new shoes to fill:

"We wanted to create a story and setting that wasn't burdened by what we created in The Sinking City," says Oganesyan of the character and location shifts, "especially since players have various endings they favored or considered the 'true ending'. This way we can let existing fans come back into this world fresh, while anyone who never played the original game can also step in without feeling like they are missing a big chunk of the story."

Oganesyan jokes that this is effectively an act of kindness: "Let's be real, how much psyche-shattering horror can one poor guy take? Let some new guy take that hit instead of piling more onto poor Charles." But the biggest change of all is in the gameplay itself—something you can glean even through the CG reveal trailer. Where the original was a detective game with occasional horror-combat elements, The Sinking City 2 effectively flips that around.

"Combat and exploration are the main focus now, with the horror setting more prominent. We're also going to be smarter with our city design, making our world smaller to keep things flowing better," says Oganesyan. "We've been hard at work focusing on making sure our combat is now central to the game. With this then comes enemy design, to ensure there is a strong visual horror element. On top of that, we also have our level design, story, and world design all leaning a lot more toward horror, so overall it's a much stronger push in this direction.



"As for the detective work, it's still there but now through a revamped system that makes it all optional. Players can now choose to investigate clues, knowing that in return they may get info that helps them progress differently. For example, engaging in some additional sleuthing may yield information on how to weaken a formidable boss or help you discover an alternate route that you had no idea about. You could, of course, progress without this knowledge, but it will be potentially easier or more engrossing to do so based on info you've deduced."

It's a major shift, and clearly one that Frogwares has put a great deal of thought into—but it's also been a passion project that's had to be created slowly, through some incredibly difficult real-life circumstances, given the studio's roots in Ukraine.

"We've never shared this before, but we were in the early stages of pre-production on The Sinking City 2 when the war broke out in Ukraine in February 2022," says Oganesyan. "This forced us to put all that work indefinitely on hold. Now that we know what we are capable of handling, have adapted to the situation as best as we can, and taken all the measures to ensure the stable workflow of our studio, we felt it was time to start up The Sinking City 2 again." It gives the changes Frogwares are making an extra significance. These aren't just trivial experiments—the size of the game, the scope of those changes, and belief that they're the right path have to be incredibly strong. They aren't easy to make in these circumstances—which means that Oganesyan and the team are pushing to realize this vision because it is, quite literally, a labor of love.

"The war on our doorstep is a constant that we have to deal with every day," Oganesyan concludes. "Thankfully, things like work and being creative actually allow us some respite or even a return to the feeling of having a 'normal life.' We've adapted through the grit of our teeth and by innovating the way we work. We now know what to expect and how to deal with it, so we're absolutely going to push on and keep creating. This is a game our entire team has been wanting to make for some time now, and we're determined to get it done."

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Loved the first Sinking City. After Alan Wake 2 left me very disappointed, I sure hope this sequel will quench my thirst for horror/weird fiction games, and the screenshots show a lot of promise!
 
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Loved the first Sinking City. After Alan Wake 2 left me very disappointed, I sure hope this sequel will quench my thirst for horror/weird fiction games, and the screenshots show a lot of promise!

Out of curiousity, how did Alan Wake 2 disappoint? I haven't played it, just interested in your thoughts.
 
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Looks nice. Damn
 
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Out of curiousity, how did Alan Wake 2 disappoint? I haven't played it, just interested in your thoughts.

I chose to play as Saga first and then as Alan Wake (after a few missions you can chose if you want to play as Saga or as Alan for the next while). I did not really like playing as Alan. It felt tedious. Finishing the game (Alan part for me) felt like a chore. The 1st half, Saga's part, was quite nice, but still, the combat was not very fun, felt very console-y (I'm not a fan of consoles, I only do PC gaming, no gamepads in shooters for me). I also prefer to keep discovering new places (like in the 1st Alan Wake, which I really liked), as opposed to when a game has you return to already visited places just now you have this new item and can unlock a new bit of the map - I really don't like that, and AW2 was all about that. It was also very, very dark (video-wise, just hard to see stuff + heavy vignette effect) and increasing brightness did not help, made the game look weird. Very few of the scares in the game were good, most were either just weird shadows attacking you (more annoying than scary) or just a plain stupid "big scary picture of a frowning face flashes on your screen for a second and a loud sound plays". The graphics were nice (as long as they were visible due to the darkness), animation and acting was really nice, the beginning of the game was quite interesting, ... Then it got boring and repetitive and predictable. And don't get me started about the story, I don't want to spoil anything, but towards the end, I felt really disappointed by the..."story". I liked the 1st Alan Wake much, much more. And Control too. I hope Control 2 is better.

I need to make sure to finish Sherlock Holmes The Awakened before Sinking City 2 gets released, barely started the game before I got distracted by other games :D:D:D
 
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