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16-core AMD Ryzen AI Max+ 395 "Strix Halo" APU Outshines Ryzen 9 7945HX3D in Geekbench

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Ever since AMD introduced Strix Point, enthusiasts like ourselves have been eagerly awaiting details regarding the high-end Strix Halo APUs with integrated graphics that are rumored to be powerful enough for the system to not require discrete graphics at all. Leaks regarding the upcoming performance mobile APU lineup have been trickling out steadily, and a fresh new Geekbench leak reveals the CPU performance of the Ryzen AI+ Max 395 APU, which boasts a 16-core configuration consisting entirely of Zen 5 cores, unlike Strix Point which features a mix of Zen 5 and the smaller Zen 5c cores. And oh dear, are the numbers ever so lucrative.



The APU managed to rake in 2,849 points in the single-core department, and a whopping 20,708 points in multicore. As Videocardz correctly notes, this result is far ahead of AMD's current top-end mobile offering, the Ryzen 9 7945HX3D, which manages around 16,900 points in the multicore test. In single-core, however, the Ryzen 9 7945HX3D does edge ahead, with around 2,900 points. That said, the ROG Flow Z13 laptop that the APU was housed in is most likely still in the testing phase, so it is entirely possible that the final product will sport even better performance. That being said, the Apple M4 Max SoC, however, remains in a league of its own with 3,800 points in single-core and a shocking 25,000 points in multicore. With CES 2025 just around the corner, it's only a matter of weeks before the Ryzen AI Max+ lineup finally sees the light of day and reaches our hands.

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Strix Halo is one of the most exciting upcoming products to me right now. I really want to see how that integrated GPU does with 40CU's and DDR5, theres so much potential, and I hope it's not too badly bottlenecked by memory bandwidth.
 
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I'm not even all that concerned about if the GPU will be great or not, killing all excuses to use a thermal throttled and inefficient discrete gpu is the biggest win of this design.

I just want to see some workstations using these chips, some models from HP already made news on one form or another, can't wait to see something from the other guys. And fingers crossed for some of them to use LPCAMM.
 
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I want to use a laptop with this APU at work, my current one used at work has a 780m. Its good enough for older games.
 

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How about running them untethered to the internet and then benchmark them
 
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The article shows how far ahead Apple is in performance than even CPU companies that have been in the business decades.

It is embarrassing for Intel and AMD.
 
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The article shows how far ahead Apple is in performance than even CPU companies that have been in the business decades.

It is embarrassing for Intel and AMD.
Apple controls everything from the hardware to the software.
 
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Apple controls everything from the hardware to the software.
It is not the software making those numbers / scores in those industry-standard benchmarks. It is the chip.
 
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It is not the software making those numbers / scores in those industry-standard benchmarks. It is the chip.

software optimization does play a big role in things, and when you control everything, you can basically optimize the heck out of it

There is a long history of Intel for example playing software games with the compiler to favor only them
 

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The article shows how far ahead Apple is in performance than even CPU companies that have been in the business decades.

It is embarrassing for Intel and AMD.
Apple gets destroyed by the full AMD processors in data center so no worries. :) This isn’t AMDs final forme.
 
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It is not the software making those numbers / scores in those industry-standard benchmarks. It is the chip.
It's chip and optimizations. If you can optimize chip for very specific use, it can became much more efficient and/or powerful.

AMD and Intel chips are universal, that means cross platform. Even though Apple was using Intel chips for long time, they always optimized software for it.
That's the reason when some people were trying to run "hackintosh" (running Mac on non-oficially supported hardware) it required a lot of tweaking.

Anyway, GeekBench is a piece of shit benchmark. Even Lunar Lake had interesting multi core scores in the benchmark and how did it end up ...
 
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It's chip and optimizations. If you can optimize chip for very specific use, it can became much more efficient and/or powerful.

AMD and Intel chips are universal, that means cross platform. Even though Apple was using Intel chips for long time, they always optimized software for it.
That's the reason when some people were trying to run "hackintosh" (running Mac on non-oficially supported hardware) it required a lot of tweaking.

Anyway, GeekBench is a piece of shit benchmark. Even Lunar Lake had interesting multi core scores in the benchmark and how did it end up ...
What’s wrong with lunar lake? it’s a fine laptop chip
 
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What’s wrong with lunar lake? it’s a fine laptop chip
Well, the benchmark results were somewhat better than reality in multi core.

Same as with Qualcomm's X CPU. In GeekBench it was not bad, but the reality ...
 

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The article shows how far ahead Apple is in performance than even CPU companies that have been in the business decades.

It is embarrassing for Intel and AMD.

paying an ARM (pun intended) and leg to buy an ARM processor with an anemic instruction set.. performance isnt something i would really compare.

Also as others stated, when you control everything in the pipeline, it makes it a million times easier. look at spaceX, different industry but same methodology.

x64 consumer stuff has to contend with being able to be run on 100s of thousands of different configurations. Apples new software doesnt even work properly on an apple device which is a few years old. Remember planned obsolescence?
 
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