4080ti or 4080 super: when?

[80251]

I'm coming into some extra $$$ so I'm thinking of upgrading my ancient 1080ti next month, but if the 4080ti or 4080 Super is coming down the pike soon I'd be willing to wait off for that. So when does anyone expect a 4080ti or 4080 super to make an appearance?

 

[A&P211]

I'm coming into some extra $$$ so I'm thinking of upgrading my ancient 1080ti next month, but if the 4080ti or 4080 Super is coming down the pike soon I'd be willing to wait off for that. So when does anyone expect a 4080ti or 4080 super to make an appearance?

You ever thought of just saving that money, like investing it.
4080S(ti), maybe 9 months away.

 

[80251]

9 months? I can't wait that long...

 

[wolf]

Depends on so many things, but I wouldn't hold my breath, just buy something on the best price you can now, opportunity cost is real.

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

Check it in the database - it is not going to be much faster than the 7900 XTX, by the indications received so far. Take the extra $400 you save by going that route and do some judicious updates to the rest of your system.




Also, I suggest filling out your system specs.

 

[ir_cow]

40 series SUPER cards? Probably not this generation. It was just a different way to say Ti for the 20 series. Just looking at the spec sheet (leaked or taken from the A6000 Quadro) will be 10-15% increase over the 4090. This is basically the same for every generation. I don't think anything will change this time around either. Will it ever come out? Maybe. Only if NVIDIA is given a reason to. Like AMD pumping out the next gen cards before NVIDIA is ready with the 50 series.

 

[A&P211]

I cant never justify sending 1200-1500 on just a graphics.

 

[Hyderz]

i have a feeling nvidia wont be putting the super moniker on their gpu's anymore..

 

[80251]

Just for the record there is a 1060 Super.

 

[wolf]

Just for the record there is a 1060 Super.

I didn't think the 10 series had any supers, it was the 20 series that got 2060/2070/2080 Supers, and none got released for 30 series, could be a one off naming scheme.

 

[Hyderz]

there is a 1660 super which was released roughly around the same time as for rtx 20 series super
like i said nvidia released the super moniker and i think certain sku didnt really sold well because of the really small performance bump..
therefore i dont think we will see the super anymore
2060 to 2060 super was a nice upgrade though with 2gb extra vram

 

[80251]

1660 Super review: https://www.techradar.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1660-super

There was apparently a 1660 Super and a 1660Ti with the Ti being the more performant card.

 

[wolf]

there is a 1660 super which was released roughly around the same time as for rtx 20 series super

@80251 Ahh yes so not a 10 series/Pascal card then (like the GTX1060), very much a Turing generation which was a split between 16-GTX and 20-RTX series.

Again, At this rate, given there are/were no 30 series cards (or Ampere GTX cards) to use Super, or any before the single aforementioned generation, the Super moniker appears to have been a once off for the Turing generation at this point.

 

[the54thvoid]

On current pricing, if you're willing to stump up the extra money for a 4080ti version (that would be $200 more than the 4080), why not just get a 4090? It makes ball-breakingly no financial sense to consider spending what would be around $1400, and ignore the top dog 4090, unless of course you want to wait (possibly forever) for the 4090ti.

Nope, logic says, if you have the cash for something more than a 4080, buy a 4090.

 

[las]

Probably not too long, considering 7900 XTX beats 4080 in most stuff.

Nvidia needs to lower price on 4080 and release 4080 Ti ASAP.

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[Dristun]

There's no way in hell Huang will match the XTX's price just because it's 3% faster in raster. A hundred bucks lower maybe but I'm not sure it's worth the wait if one has the games they want to play right here right now. Though I'm not even sure about those $100 considering inflation is still running in upper single digits or higher almost all around the world.

These prices are outrageous but I'm sure they're here to stay, for the foreseeable future at least.

 

[wolf]

Probably not too long, considering 7900 XTX beats 4080 in most stuff.

Nvidia needs to lower price on 4080 and release 4080 Ti ASAP.

I doubt they're feeling as much pressure from the 7900XTX as you make out, but I do see price drops for cards from both camps on the horizon to keep sales moving the way they both want.

 

[las]

I doubt they're feeling as much pressure from the 7900XTX as you make out, but I do see price drops for cards from both camps on the horizon to keep sales moving the way they both want.

There is no room for 4080 Ti between 4080 and 4090 right now, so 4080 are bound to drop in price

Plus 3000 series are sold out at this point, or atleast in much lower stock, there has been several clearance sales

 

[P4-630]

We just don't know....

 

[gffermari]

The 4080Ti and the 4080 price drop will be presented at the same time by the leather jacket man.

4080 at 899
4080Ti at 1199

There’s no competition for the 4080. The 7900XTX is miles behind in RT and pointlessly ahead in raster.
Both 7900s prices should have been lowered at the launch date.

 

[las]

The 4080Ti and the 4080 price drop will be presented at the same time by the leather jacket man.

4080 at 899
4080Ti at 1199

There’s no competition for the 4080. The 7900XTX is miles behind in RT and pointlessly ahead in raster.
Both 7900s prices should have been lowered at the launch date.

Funny you think many people care about RT perf. It's pretty much useless unless you buy a 4090 for 1440p RT gaming, and STILL accept dips below 100 fps. Or use DLSS/FSR to run the game at even lower resolution. RT destroys performance no matter what brand you use. Only the most expensive milking cards will be able to do RT at all, and not for long.

2080 Ti is weak as hell for RT gaming. My 3080 Ti barely does 1080p RT on high settings. POINTLESS. RT was 100% pointless on 2000 series, way too slow.

RT = Useless gimmick feature. It will matter in 5+ years, maybe.

For now, it's just a gimping tech, that will make cards obsolete faster. Consoles did not adopt it, they run software RT. So it's propietary Nvidia gimping tech on PC. Nvidia pay on PER GAME basis to get it implemented, just like PhysX back in the days. No money for devs = No RT. Sad but true.

It makes next to zero difference in actual gaming, because you won't really notice the difference when you ACTUALLY PLAY instead of standing still. However framerate will be 100-200% lower.
In some games, RT ON actually looks worse as well.

7900XTX beats 4080 by 5% in 1440p and overclocking headroom is much bigger as well, 10% can be gained.

1440p is still the sweet spot and especially now with 300-400 Hz IPS panels. I will take 200+ fps any day over 50-100 fps at 4K .. or 20-40 fps with RT ON - LMAO...

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[AleXXX666]

Funny you think many people care about RT perf. It's pretty much useless unless you buy a 4090 for 1440p RT gaming, and STILL accept dips below 100 fps. Or use DLSS/FSR to run the game at even lower resolution. RT destroys performance no matter what brand you use. Only the most expensive milking cards will be able to do RT at all, and not for long.

2080 Ti is weak as hell for RT gaming. My 3080 Ti barely does 1080p RT on high settings. POINTLESS. RT was 100% pointless on 2000 series, way too slow.

RT = Useless gimmick feature. It will matter in 5+ years, maybe.

For now, it's just a gimping tech, that will make cards obsolete faster. Consoles did not adopt it, they run software RT. So it's propietary Nvidia gimping tech on PC. Nvidia pay on PER GAME basis to get it implemented, just like PhysX back in the days. No money for devs = No RT. Sad but true.

It makes next to zero difference in actual gaming, because you won't really notice the difference when you ACTUALLY PLAY instead of standing still. However framerate will be 100-200% lower.
In some games, RT ON actually looks worse as well.

7900XTX beats 4080 by 5% in 1440p and overclocking headroom is much bigger as well, 10% can be gained.

1440p is still the sweet spot and especially now with 300-400 Hz IPS panels. I will take 200+ fps any day over 50-100 fps at 4K .. or 20-40 fps with RT ON - LMAO...

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I hope drivers for 7000 series are more stable than for 6000 series, though. I've tired of installing old driver just because new driver is buggy. Now I have 3070 Ti and no way I'll again buy AMD card for myself lol.

 

[las]

I hope drivers for 7000 series are more stable than for 6000 series, though. I've tired of installing old driver just because new driver is buggy. Now I have 3070 Ti and no way I'll again buy AMD card for myself lol.

This can happen on Nvidia too. Happened for a friend of mine a few weeks ago when he installed the newest drivers. Stuttering in games, and he rolled back, then it worked again...

 

[nguyen]

Funny you think many people care about RT perf. It's pretty much useless unless you buy a 4090 for 1440p RT gaming, and STILL accept dips below 100 fps. Or use DLSS/FSR to run the game at even lower resolution. RT destroys performance no matter what brand you use. Only the most expensive milking cards will be able to do RT at all, and not for long.

2080 Ti is weak as hell for RT gaming. My 3080 Ti barely does 1080p RT on high settings. POINTLESS. RT was 100% pointless on 2000 series, way too slow.

RT = Useless gimmick feature. It will matter in 5+ years, maybe.

For now, it's just a gimping tech, that will make cards obsolete faster. Consoles did not adopt it, they run software RT. So it's propietary Nvidia gimping tech on PC. Nvidia pay on PER GAME basis to get it implemented, just like PhysX back in the days. No money for devs = No RT. Sad but true.

It makes next to zero difference in actual gaming, because you won't really notice the difference when you ACTUALLY PLAY instead of standing still. However framerate will be 100-200% lower.
In some games, RT ON actually looks worse as well.

7900XTX beats 4080 by 5% in 1440p and overclocking headroom is much bigger as well, 10% can be gained.

1440p is still the sweet spot and especially now with 300-400 Hz IPS panels. I will take 200+ fps any day over 50-100 fps at 4K .. or 20-40 fps with RT ON - LMAO...

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Wow you have been posting the same BS across different threads.

The reason 7900XTX Taichi get higher FPS in latest review was because W1zzard updated the testing rig to 13900K, which benefit Nvidia GPU just as much, check out the 4090 Gaming X review

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Yeah if RT is gimmick, so does stupidly high FPS, I highly doubt anyone beside you play at 200FPS low settings vs 100FPS High-Ultra settings in single player games.

If 4080 get lowered to 1000-1050usd, it's the death of 7900XTX at 1000usd, but Nvidia doesn't want to kill off its pseudo competitor anytime soon

 

[las]

Wow you have been posting the same BS across different threads.

The reason 7900XTX Taichi get higher FPS in latest review was because W1zzard updated the testing rig to 13900K, which benefit Nvidia GPU just as much, check out the 4090 Gaming X review
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Yeah if RT is gimmick, so does stupidly high FPS, I highly doubt anyone beside you play at 200FPS low settings vs 100FPS High-Ultra settings in single player games.

If 4080 get lowered to 1000-1050usd, it's the death of 7900XTX at 1000usd, but Nvidia doesn't want to kill off its pseudo competitor anytime soon

I can easily get 200-300 fps using high/ultra settings at 1440p in most games, or i will gladly lower settings further to optain it.

AMD have headroom to drop price, they always does this over time.

More and more games run better on AMD, because AMD is used in consoles.

PC games with Nvidia gimping tech tends to run better on Nvidia, but will Nvidia pay game devs forever? Or will dev's simply prefer to code for the hardware used in consoles; AMD tech.

Many games run better on AMD now. 7900 XTX stomps on 4090 in games like MW2/Warzone2 which millions of people play, just to name one.

4090 have terrible perf/dollar.