5070 Ti power limit questions

[webmanau]

Hi all,

Managed to get myself a Gigabyte Windforce OC at (almost) MSRP. I used Afterburner and did some overclocking. The power limit is 300W and I'd have to flash another BIOS to get more which is easy enough. Here's the thing I can't work out: When doing Time Spy Extreme runs, Afterburner is reporting the Max_Power_Limit at 1 so that should indicate it's hit 300W max but at the same time reported power usage is only 250W.

What am I not getting here?

TIA

Edit: OK, shut down computer, pulled power and left it for 15 seconds. Rebooted and Afterburner, on load froze the PC. Took a while but uninstalled Afterburner and deleted settings. Power down as before, rebooted and re-installed Afterburner. Somehow(!) the GPU seemed stuck on a wrong base clock of 1200Mhz and a max power limit of 250W. Note sure whether beta 5 of Afterburner has a bug or wtf is going on.

 

[tugrul_LordOfDrinks]

So you've managed to get 1 at msrp and managed to brick it by flashing? Or do you want to flash yet?

Also why is windforce only 300W? On 5080 it adds 50W on 400 to have 450 right? It should be able to go 330-340W imo. Or does gigabyte do this on another card like aorus?

Try hwinfo64.

 

[webmanau]

Thanks for the reply. Who said I bricked it? It's running fine now as it should. I've now(!) flashed it to the Gigabyte Gaming OC BIOS and it's running as expected with a Time Spy run boosting to just over 3200MHz but for gaming I reduced it by 100MHz.

Somehow Afterburner (I think) messed it up and it ended up with a base of 1250MHz and power limit of 250W. After a cold boot it went back to the BIOS defaults and as soon as Afterburner loaded it tried to apply a 950MHz core overclock. Now, 1250 plus 950 was not much but after the card went back to normal it obliviously was.
No idea why the 5070Ti Windforce is just the standard 300W but it is what it is.
Also keep in mind Australian MSRP, and I only got close to that, is still over AUD1500 and even on launch day that turned into AUD1629. Never seen a card below that here.

 

[tugrul_LordOfDrinks]

Are Voltage regulators same between models?

 

[webmanau]

Could not tell you what they are but it runs stable and well now with voltage sitting around 1.015V.
I’ve flashed ‘up’ the 4070Ti before that to get more power limit head room although I followed what someone else had done before me on that card.

 

[flintjoris]

@webmanau I recently got the same card as you and also planning on flashing the same bios as you did.
How does your card perform (temps) and are al the ports working?

 

[bruticus]

i got a asus prime 5070ti for 740pounds with shipping

 

[webmanau]

The card is fine. Just found out what the problem was: I re-enabled voltage control (third party) in Afterburner and promptly the power limit went back to 250W. Undid the changes, cold boot and it's back to 350W. I can do without voltage control so no problem.
Other than that, the card boosts to 3200Mhz+ stable (core +450) with hours of Outlaws and Cyberpunk. At +500 it's stable for 3Dmark but not the games. Runs at about 66C degrees. For a base card you can't complain. Could be quieter but I've also set it to a very aggressive fan curve. I have only tested the HDMI port to an LG OLED TV but it has the same ports as the Gaming OC so can't see why these wouldn't work as expected.

 

[Cynred]

Hi there
Where did you find the Gigabyte 5070 ti Gaming OC BIOS? Do you recomand any other vBios for the Windforce Model? I would like to Flash my Card too because my Power Limit slider is stuck on 100% and i am unable to push it to 110. i tried it with Afterburner (newest Beta Version) and GPU Tweak. Have you encountered any problems since you flashed it?

Kind Regards

 

[webmanau]

It's on the Techpowerup site. I googled it and it came up with the link but said it's unverified. If the 100% are hard coded in BIOS then you can't go over as far as I know so yes, you'll need that other BIOS. No issues do far.

 

[Cynred]

Thanks for the reply, i didnt saw the filter for unverified . I am going to flash it after work today. so far i got 2850 mhz stable on the stock bios.

 

[webmanau]

Good luck. I can run +450 core and +3000 memory on the gaming of BIOS. I think most cards will get to something in that ball park. More will crash some games.

 

[Cynred]

Awesome! +450 core and +3000 mem runs rock solid with 110 power target on my system, thanks mate! Boost Clock is now on 3038 MHz and the Mem Clock on 31002 Mhz.

 

[tugrul_LordOfDrinks]

Zotac 5070 is limited to +2000 on memory. So it goes from 1750 to 2000MHz with the 2000 oc on mem. It scales perfectly and its samsung memory. Doesnt even heat more. It just scales perf with same temps.

 

[webmanau]

The 2000 memory limit is Afterburner, not the card. AFAIK, the cards all have a hard +3000 limit. There is an updated database file you can get for beta 5 that unlocks 3000.

 

[tugrul_LordOfDrinks]

The 2000 memory limit is Afterburner, not the card. AFAIK, the cards all have a hard +3000 limit. There is an updated database file you can get for beta 5 that unlocks 3000.

Im using beta 5. Means just using it on afterburner works?

 

[webmanau]

You just need to replace the database file for Afterburner.

 

[tugrul_LordOfDrinks]

You just need to replace the database file for Afterburner.

What are dangers of vram overclock besides corrupt data and constant error correction based vram lifetime decrement?

The card is fine. Just found out what the problem was: I re-enabled voltage control (third party) in Afterburner and promptly the power limit went back to 250W. Undid the changes, cold boot and it's back to 350W. I can do without voltage control so no problem.
Other than that, the card boosts to 3200Mhz+ stable (core +450) with hours of Outlaws and Cyberpunk. At +500 it's stable for 3Dmark but not the games. Runs at about 66C degrees. For a base card you can't complain. Could be quieter but I've also set it to a very aggressive fan curve. I have only tested the HDMI port to an LG OLED TV but it has the same ports as the Gaming OC so can't see why these wouldn't work as expected.

What was idle temperature?

 

[webmanau]

I don't keep the cards longer than two years anyway but I would imagine the risk is minimal. Running them 24/7 for stuff like mining was much riskier as the fan bearings eventually go. 3DMark definitely went up when I changed from 2000 to 3000 memory so even IF error correction is kicking in it's still faster and I can't see any artefacts.

Not sure what the idle temp is but I imagine in the 30s. My case is small so I removed the side panel otherwise temp under load is more like 74C instead 66C.

 

[tugrul_LordOfDrinks]

Does your card fans pull air or push air? Contributes to the weight?

 

[webmanau]

Not sure how much weight difference it makes but pretty sure they pull air and push it through the cooler

 

[Sgoaty]

My Palit Gaming Pro has a power limit of 300w I'm thinking about swapping the bios out for something with a higher limit as I can only get around 3100 on the core without running into the 300w limit.

 

[webmanau]

My Palit Gaming Pro has a power limit of 300w I'm thinking about swapping the bios out for something with a higher limit as I can only get around 3100 on the core without running into the 300w limit.

Make sure you have a spare card so you can undo the flash on your 5070Ti if something goes wrong

 

[Sgoaty]

It's dual bios also have an igpu so hopefully I'm covered

 

[mobiuus]

i owned asus strix rtx 3090 oc with default power limit cca 380watt and i could increase it via afterburner +23% to 480watt.
On the same gpu and mem oc just increasing power limit by 100 watt got me merely 4-5 fps so i think
swapping bios is not worth the hassle