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| Processor | 5950x |
|---|---|
| Motherboard | B550 ProArt |
| Cooling | Fuma 2 |
| Memory | 4x32GB 3200MHz Corsair LPX |
| Video Card(s) | 2x RTX 3090 |
| Display(s) | LG 42" C2 4k OLED |
| Power Supply | XPG Core Reactor 850W |
| Software | I use Arch btw |
tldr; does anyone have any extra information regarding the availability of such DIMMs, or have heard anything about them actually becoming available at retail anytime soon?
So far I've been really eyeing an upgrade from my current platform (5950x + 4x32GB 3200MHz) to double up on CPU perf and RAM quantity.
My current RAM amount is sometimes lacking whenever I'm dealing with larger volumes of data in both my academic and professional scenarios. Adding to that, a 9950x on AM5 looks really sweet for that sweet AVX-512 performance, which would basically double the current single thread performance in my daily tasks, and given how most of my tasks also scale well with cores, it'd be an overall 2x perf bump along with a (hopeful) 2x memory bump.
Manufacturers have been teasing us with 64GB UDIMMs for over an year now:
www.asrock.com
www.gigabyte.com
www.asus.com
Specifically, the kit mentioned above is the "Kingston Renegade KF560C36-64", but so far this product hasn't been made available anywhere.
I emailed Kingston back in Aug 2024 about their availability, and this was their answer:
They do have one CUDIMM offering listed in their website, but it doesn't seem to be available for sale anywhere:
www.kingston.com
So did Innodisk:
Crucial did announce that they would be releasing 64GB UDIMMs back at CES, but no actual availability so far as well:
Level1Techs did do some tests using Kingston 64GB CUDIMMs on an Intel Z890 platform:
However, when asked about it, that was all information they could (understandably) provide:
To give some extra context, I often travel to the US, where pricing (and availability) of components is way better than where I live. I'll be traveling there by next week, so I was hoping to grab those (along with the CPU) while in there, which would require their availability being a thing as well.
Before anyone asks why not jump into a TR/Xeon-W platform, it mostly comes down to cost. I had discussed this a bit more into detail in another thread:
With all of the above said, I'll bring back the question at the beginning of the topic: does anyone have any extra information regarding the availability of such DIMMs, or have heard anything about them become available at retail anytime soon?
So far I've been really eyeing an upgrade from my current platform (5950x + 4x32GB 3200MHz) to double up on CPU perf and RAM quantity.
My current RAM amount is sometimes lacking whenever I'm dealing with larger volumes of data in both my academic and professional scenarios. Adding to that, a 9950x on AM5 looks really sweet for that sweet AVX-512 performance, which would basically double the current single thread performance in my daily tasks, and given how most of my tasks also scale well with cores, it'd be an overall 2x perf bump along with a (hopeful) 2x memory bump.
Manufacturers have been teasing us with 64GB UDIMMs for over an year now:
ASRock > News
Boost Your DDR5 Single DIMM Capacity to 64GB with GIGABYTE DDR5 Motherboards! | News - GIGABYTE Global
December 20th, 2023 – GIGABYTE Technology, a leading global powerhouse in motherboards, graphics cards, and cutting-edge hardware solutions, proudly announc...
ASUS Intel 700, 600 Series and AMD AM5 Motherboards Are Ready to Support up to 256 GB of DDR5 Memory | News｜ASUS Global
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www.asus.com
Specifically, the kit mentioned above is the "Kingston Renegade KF560C36-64", but so far this product hasn't been made available anywhere.
I emailed Kingston back in Aug 2024 about their availability, and this was their answer:
They do have one CUDIMM offering listed in their website, but it doesn't seem to be available for sale anywhere:
Kingston Memory: DDR5 6400MT/s Non-ECC Clocked Unbuffered DIMM - Kingston Technology
Kingston has memory for your laptop or desktop PC. This Memory specification is: DDR5 6400MT/s Non-ECC Clocked Unbuffered DIMM
So did Innodisk:
Crucial did announce that they would be releasing 64GB UDIMMs back at CES, but no actual availability so far as well:
Level1Techs did do some tests using Kingston 64GB CUDIMMs on an Intel Z890 platform:
However, when asked about it, that was all information they could (understandably) provide:
To give some extra context, I often travel to the US, where pricing (and availability) of components is way better than where I live. I'll be traveling there by next week, so I was hoping to grab those (along with the CPU) while in there, which would require their availability being a thing as well.
Before anyone asks why not jump into a TR/Xeon-W platform, it mostly comes down to cost. I had discussed this a bit more into detail in another thread:
Just to add some context, my plan is to buy the CPU and RAM from abroad whenever I travel (given that's it's way cheaper), which would be doable given I can just shove those into my backpack and then buy the motherboard locally in my region, due to luggage space, and also because of warranty-related constraints.
With that said, a Xeon-W would be cheaper considering an entry level CPU, however W790 here are non-existent here, sadly.
For TR, the CPU alone is pretty expensive, and while there are some mobos available here, they're double their MSRP in the US.
For some extra context, a x670e ProArt here is currently going for $660, a 9950x goes for $710 (which i can grab for less than $600 in the US), and 64GB UDIMMs won't be available here anytime soon.
A 7960X alone goes for $1.5k in the US, $2.3k here, whereas the cheapest TRX50 mobo available here goes for $2.2k. Newegg has 4x64GB RDIMMs for $1.4k (don't even look at the price for higher density setups lol)
So ~$5.1k for a 24c+256GB TR setup, whereas a 16c+256GB AM5 setup would be sub $2k. And that AM5 one would have a Zen 5 CPU instead of a Zen 4 one.
My requirements are mostly USB4 video passthrough, and x8/x8 support, that'd be it.
However the CPU itself will become outdated by then, and those HEDT platforms are not known for their generational support. I plan to grab a 9950x for that sweet AVX-512 perf, and will likely be able to upgrade to a Zen 6 version later if I so desire.
Given the amount of time I keep my systems, tricking out a platform during its mid-generation ends up cheaper in the long run than keeping an HEDT system for a bit longer and then switching to a new one, while still covering all my requirements.
And even more expensive
More bandwidth would be nice, but usually my cores are not really bandwidth-bound, and having to hit swap is way worse than having slower frequencies anyway.
With all of the above said, I'll bring back the question at the beginning of the topic: does anyone have any extra information regarding the availability of such DIMMs, or have heard anything about them become available at retail anytime soon?
