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8600GT : latest drivers' a NO GO ?

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scjettech

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Hardware:
-Asus 8600GT Silent/HTDP/256M/A (256MB DDR3)
-Acer 22" LCD Monitor, Samsung 22" 1080P Digital/Analog Monitor
-WinXP (SP3)
-GPU-Z (screenshot): http://gpuz.techpowe...1/11/20/2d6.png or if that don't work, please check attached image.

Symptom:
A couple days ago, I upgraded to latest nvidia drivers (285.58), at which point my 8600GT appeared to die, however, no beeps or hardware errors could be found. My screen/monitor simply went blank (as if the DVI-out on my 8600GT had switched itself off).
Things I've tried:
- checked Monitor on another PC , OK.
- put 8600GT into another PC , but it would only show boot up screen, POST messages, BIOS,... but when WinXP, or Win7, would boot-up loading latest nvidia-drivers, again, the screen would just go blank ?! I also tried it on both different Monitors with the same result.

There is obviously a serious problem with latest nvidia drivers that "CHANGED" something on my 8600GT ?

Also, I decided by Starting from Scratch:
-fresh clean install of WinXP (SP3), ... OK (8600GT works great)
-installed latest "clean" nvidia drivers (285.58) with and without PhysX, but in eother case when Windows tried to boot up the screen went BLANK again ?!
-once again, fresh clean install of WinXP,... 8600GT works great.
-installed "original" drivers that came with my card (version 162.18 Forceware version), and to my surprise, the 8600GT works flawlessly in Windows...
-upgraded nvidia driver from version 162.18 -> to 182.50 , and again everything workd fine, 3D, .... with Directx9.0c

Basically, Here is my PROBLEM:
If I try "ANY" nvidia driver version/update from 197.45 <- up to and including -> 285.58, then I end up with the exact same symptoms as above, namely a USELESS card.

So what gives, does anyone know why an 8600GT would suddenly only work on older nvidia drivers, and NOT with any of the newer Drivers. ?
(from a paranoid-delusionist): Is nvidia actually trying to force ppl into buying newer cards, with this trickery ?
:slap:
-Is it possible that there is an Asus 8600GT-SILENT BIOS upgrade that I need, to make this card work with nvidia's latest drivers ?

If you need any other details, I'll be glad to supply them.


Thanks.
Rick.
 

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have you checked the contact area of the card that plug into pciex slot?
if you try on other pc it run, at least it shows a graphic it should be ok on your pc
you run os original or 'mod'
i remember when the last time i run mod windows, it refuses to get driver update.
everytime i update it changes to 256 color
 
if your 8600gt goes out, i got a msi N9600gt up for sale PM me
 
micropage7 said:
have you checked the contact area of the card that plug into pciex slot?
if you try on other pc it run, at least it shows a graphic it should be ok on your pc
you run os original or 'mod'
i remember when the last time i run mod windows, it refuses to get driver update.
everytime i update it changes to 256 color
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What do you mean "mod wondows". ?
Like I said, its just plain-jane WinXP (SP3), and it does the same thing in any other PC.
 
I'm not overclocking this 8600GT-Silent -obviously ;)
As far as I can tell, the BIOS on this card was not modded, but I don't know, 'cause I bought it used awhile back.
Like I said it has worked great for the past few months. until I installed the latest nvidia drivers (285.58...)
It's very possible something hardware-wise has went on this card, for example, maybe it just DOES NOT like the latest nvidia-drivers. :(?
However, if I install nvidia-driver version 182.50 then "everything" works just fine, plays all my Games like a champ. I even installed Directx 10 and there is no problems at all.
 
mmm just for a lark, I installed Arch Linux, and of course in VESA mode,... it works great.
But as soon as I install the latest nvidia-driver (Linux-nvidia-binary 258.*) then it boots up showing all my bios/post messages, and it's fine right on up to the Login screen.
But Right after I log in, (the nvidia driver loads) and it's bye-bye Screen yet again
-LoL.
This is very strange. anyone else get this "weirdness" with their 8600GT's. ?
I'm almost ready to buy a good-used-cheap 9800GT at this point ;)
 
After installing the drivers have you tried setting a low res before rebooting if i remember one of my friends had a problem like this and it was to do with the res.
 
yep, I set it to 1024x768 (in safe mode), and then I try to install the latest-nvidia-drivers,
and when it boots, it just blanks the screen again.

In WinXP (32-bit) it works perfectly, but ONLY if I use the nvidia driver version 182.50, anything newer it chokes. In fact, on my 1080p Monitor (with nv-182.50), it looks as beautiful as it ever has, still.

In Win7(64-bit) it doesn't work at all, even though it used to work fine, unless of course I stay in Safe-mode
- LoL.

I honestly think NVIDIA is taking such a beating from AMD/ATI that they are forcing certain cards not to work anymore (aka BUY our new one dude, we need 'da money), or run WinXP and shetup.
It's very possible that this particular ASUS 8600GT/SILENT/256Meg card had died on some DVI switching routine within the hardware lately and that's that?, fuk I dunno anymore.

It's too bad really, because up until a few days ago, this card worked soooo good in (dual-boot) with Linux as well.
Like wtf is so strange, is that with nvidia-driver-version-182.50, it works beautifully in WinXP ??! - :)
I've had Vid-cards go, but when they go I hear the "beeps" and that's that - I get a new one.
But this is very, very rare for me.
I almost wish this card would sincerely JUST DIE !, but instead, it works great under the above limitations' ?!!!
 
Older cards do not get proper support from Nvidia. I know Nvidia claims there drivers work for all models but in reality they just don't. For example I have a 7600GT that would not work right with any new drivers and would only work well with the 190 series drivers. I wouldn't be surprized if the 8600GT falls under the same issue...
 
maleficarus said:
Older cards do not get proper support from Nvidia. I know Nvidia claims there drivers work for all models but in reality they just don't. For example I have a 7600GT that would not work right with any new drivers and would only work well with the 190 series drivers. I wouldn't be surprized if the 8600GT falls under the same issue...
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AHH, thx
... so the "truth" is right, I am not a paranoid-delusionist afterall. -haha
Then again, this is Corporate North America, if they can F$#!!2# US, they will.
Cool.
and yep, I have an Asus 7600GT too (actually, one of the first with HDMI), and sure enough, I tried it, and now it doesn't work in anything but the older nvidia/asus drivers.

Time for a newer card I guess, (like do we have a ____-in choice!!!?), and now I hate NVIDIA, and AMD/ATI. -but they all care not.
;)
 
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Umm its odd but your card is old what are you looking at gaining from newer drivers?
 
I also, posted my problem/question, regarding my 8600GT-SILENT on nvidia's forums, hoping for a fix/reply, but atleast you guys tried to offer constructive help, thankyou.
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=216279

I don't expect nvidia to say/reply or admit anything ... about this now, on their forum.
I was honestly hoping there was a quick fix, that's all.
anyway, thanks so far, for your help.
I've been studying the "nvflash" guides here at techpowerup, and that and "nvflash" looks pretty-straight forward.
I just don't think that I will gain much at this point ( from what maleficarus said).
 
Live OR Die said:
Umm its odd but your card is old what are you looking at gaining from newer drivers?
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absolutely nothing, in fact, my 8600GT works great in WinXP 182.50, but in Win7(64-bit) it doesn't work at ALL ! -so obviously this is becoming a major problem with ppl (like me) who want to bring their 8600GT's, or maybe even 8800GT's into Win7.
maybe it's my card ? I dunno.

and "Umm", it's NOT odd that ppl keep some of their older cards, and btw, you know yourself this card could easily walk that new crap nvidia sells - aka 520GTSuck, or that GT210 ??,... whatever.
and ya, some "newer" games do require directx10/11, but hardly worth mentioning... right now.
so your reply is just a cop-out.
but thx anyway. and don't start an arguement that has nuthin' to do with this thread.
 
hmmm, I just tested out a old 8800gt(gen92) on 285.62 acouple weeks ago with no issues. Granted, I didn't try to play any games or anything, I just wanted to make sure the card still worked, and it did.
 
donated it to a WCG contest here on TPU
 
...like I said: some have nuthin' to say, helpfully, with this thread, like "Barb",and the other "IDIOT OUTSIDE" ?
Ha
 
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had the same issue witha 8800GS and 9600GSO
 
scjettech said:
...like I said: some have nuthin' to say, helpfully, with this thread, like "Barb",and the other "IDIOT OUTSIDE" ?
Ha
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Damn dude, little harsh. I was just trying to help.

Actually I felt what I said did have something to do with this thread. I said you couldn't get a nvidia 8000 card to work on the new drivers, when I was able to get a gen92 8000 card to work.


BTW, I came back to your thread to point you to Pailieg's Pay It Foward thread which I just offered up a GTS450 for free so you could possibly try to be the one that gets it. But after that last response with your little edit in it, you can kiss my a..... I wouldn't give you a damn thing now.
 
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scjettech said:
absolutely nothing, in fact, my 8600GT works great in WinXP 182.50, but in Win7(64-bit) it doesn't work at ALL ! -so obviously this is becoming a major problem with ppl (like me) who want to bring their 8600GT's, or maybe even 8800GT's into Win7.
maybe it's my card ? I dunno.

and "Umm", it's NOT odd that ppl keep some of their older cards, and btw, you know yourself this card could easily walk that new crap nvidia sells - aka 520GTSuck, or that GT210 ??,... whatever.
and ya, some "newer" games do require directx10/11, but hardly worth mentioning... right now.
so your reply is just a cop-out.
but thx anyway. and don't start an arguement that has nuthin' to do with this thread.
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Hi,

did you try uninstalling the Geforce 8600GT with Driver Cleaner Pro 1.5 or Driver Sweeper in Windows Safe mode (also use the built-in cab-cleaner in Driver Cleaner Pro if necessarily)? If not, try to google for them and use one of them to get rid of the old drivers in safe mode, then install the newest drivers again, see if it works now.

I have put my Geforce 8600GT in my HTPC (Windows 7 32bit), and it works well with
driver versions 25x.xx or even 26x.xx., and even played some Street Fighter 4 on it.

So there's definitely wrong with the Windows OS, I think, but try the Driver Cleaner Pro 1.5 or Driver Sweeper first and report back.

Good luck!
 
The older cards should work just fine. I have an 8600gts in a file server running win7 64bit, and it's fully up to date with drivers. No issues. I even booted up half life 2 to make sure it was working. No problems.

You may have some other issue?
 
Ill say like it is its not nvidia or the drivers your card dodgy and cant run windows Aero, because if it was dont you think more people would of reported it ???
 
Live OR Die said:
Ill say like it is its not nvidia or the drivers your card dodgy and cant run windows Aero, because if it was dont you think more people would of reported it ???
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your wrong 8600GT's can run aero. and the problem is drivers. you need to do a clean install. Uninstall the drivers. If it asks you to reboot dont. Delete the NVIDIA directory in the C: drive. Delete everything in the "TEMP" and "PREFETCH" folders in the Windows directory. reboot the PC. Let windows install w/e windows driver it wants (WDDM). Update direct X or do a full windows update. Run a registry cleaner. Install Latest supported Nvidia driver for the card beta or no.
 
Thanks for the help ALL. I appreciate it.
But a friend of mine sold me his xfx-8800GTS for $20, and the latest nvidia drivers work fantastic on it, in XP, Linux,... and it also works great in my other Win7(64-bit) system too.
So there was "definitely" something wrong hardware-wise with that old ASUS-8600GT - which is now in the trash can.
I think I'll stay away from anymore "ASUS"-made graphics cards.
;)
 
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