AMD 630 running too hot?

exow2 · May 1, 2010

Hey guys, I'm having some issues with my athlon II X4 630 2.8ghz and the heat. Apparently (says core temp) my cpu while playing Battlefield Bad Company 2 reaches 65C! I read some articles about the 630 and the max temp is 71C. This is making me nervous as I don't want to run down the life of my cpu drastically as I game quite often. The rest of my system specs are in the drop down menu, and fyi I have 2 120mm fans in the case, as well as just the stock fan on my cpu. Thanks for any opinions

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erocker · May 1, 2010

What voltage is it set at? Also, does the cooler seem firmly secured to the CPU?

theonedub · May 1, 2010

When I had my 630 I was able to get it to the mid 3ghz range on an OE Phenom cooler with temps at 53C @ 100% OCCT. 65 and 71 is much hotter than I would care to run one of those chips. Def make sure the voltage is set correctlt as E mentioned.

exow2 · May 1, 2010

erocker said:
What voltage is it set at? Also, does the cooler seem firmly secured to the CPU?

It's on default voltage, I havn't played with at all yet as I havn't bought a heat sinc. And yes the fan seems pretty secure but I'll shut down and double check just in case.

erocker · May 1, 2010

Check CPU-Z to make sure the board isn't automatically raising your voltage for some reason.

exow2 · May 1, 2010

theonedub said:
When I had my 630 I was able to get it to the mid 3ghz range on an OE Phenom cooler with temps at 53C @ 100% OCCT. 65 and 71 is much hotter than I would care to run one of those chips. Def make sure the voltage is set correctlt as E mentioned.

Right now the only time the temp really rises is when I game on Battlefield to be honest. Right now as I'm righting this the temp is 35C :confused:

theonedub · May 1, 2010

Someone before forgot to lock the heatsink down by flipping the 'switch'- I can't help but ask, have you done that correctly as well? Thats just really hot for stock clocks even for a stock hsf.

exow2 · May 1, 2010

erocker said:
Check CPU-Z to make sure the board isn't automatically raising your voltage for some reason.

Here's the cpu-z info at the moment, I'll boot up Battlefield and check if the voltage changes at all also.

MN12BIRD · May 1, 2010

Yeah that's pretty hot for a Athlon II even with the stock cooler. Do you have the latest BIOS on your mobo? Perhaps try an update if you don't.

exow2 · May 1, 2010

theonedub said:
Someone before forgot to lock the heatsink down by flipping the 'switch'- I can't help but ask, have you done that correctly as well? Thats just really hot for stock clocks even for a stock hsf.

Nope, I even double checked and I did flip that lever down to lock the fan in place. It's very secure so I cant see that as being the issue. I'm a noob but im not that big of a noob XD.

exow2 · May 1, 2010

MN12BIRD said:
Yeah that's pretty hot for a Athlon II even with the stock cooler. Do you have the latest BIOS on your mobo? Perhaps try an update if you don't.

Actaully that's a good idea, since I never downloaded the drivers from my CD since they are only compatable with xp for some reason, and I'm running win 7. Should I try to find some patched drivers for my mobo and get the latest bios drivers..? How would I check though first to ensure I don't have the latest BIOS already?

erocker · May 1, 2010

exow2 said:
Actaully that's a good idea, since I never downloaded the drivers from my CD since they are only compatable with xp for some reason, and I'm running win 7. Should I try to find some patched drivers for my mobo and get the latest bios drivers..? How would I check though first to ensure I don't have the latest BIOS already?

I had that board and all the drivers are listed on Asus' website. http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us Did you ever install your SB/NB/USB drivers from AMD? You need those too.

exow2 · May 1, 2010

erocker said:
I had that board and all the drivers are listed on Asus' website. http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us Did you ever install your SB/NB/USB drivers from AMD? You need those too.

Looked through every section on the site and my mobo wasn't listed, I have the M3A78-EM. You sure she's on there..?

EDIT: Also, looking at cpu-z I noticed that my voltages were flying around from being at 1.1 to up to 1.4 then back down again etc, is this normal?

theonedub · May 1, 2010

Yeah Cool n Quiet will auto adjust your Vcore as it adjusts your clocks for power savings.

I think my 630 only needed 1.3xx (just slightly above default) to get to its ~3.4ish OC. Maybe your board is like my OLD GB board where the default over volts the CPU. I had to go in the bios and reselect normal before it used 1.3xx instead of 1.45. Check it out.

erocker · May 1, 2010

exow2 said:
Looked through every section on the site and my mobo wasn't listed, I have the M3A78-EM. You sure she's on there..?

Positive. It's on the same page I linked you to.

After you select your motherboard, it will ask what O/S you use. Select the correct O/S. Then it will list everything.

exow2 · May 1, 2010

erocker said:
Positive. It's on the same page I linked you to.

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/erocker414/help1.jpg

After you select your motherboard, it will ask what O/S you use. Select the correct O/S. Then it will list everything.

Thanks, must of missed it before I've found it now. So what I'll do is download the latest bios updates correct? I'll probably do this sometime tonight since apparently I can't lose power during this procedure and its raining outside

erocker · May 1, 2010

exow2 said:
Thanks, must of missed it before I've found it now. So what I'll do is download the latest bios updates correct? I'll probably do this sometime tonight since apparently I can't lose power during this procedure and its raining outside

You need a USB stick formatted with FAT. In the bios there is an ezflash option. With your USB stick inserted with the bios file on it, it should work.

OneMoar · May 1, 2010

cool and quiet / installing southbridge drivers will not help you here
remove the cooler clean is and reapply some AC5 or other good thermal paste
AMD specs the maximum temp for the chip @ 70C
also post a screenshot of cpu-z /WHILE under load ( have a feeling you're board IS infact using 1.42v for the chip instead of the 1.36 OR 1.38 volts it REALLY needs like mine)
if the above fails
you can try this
bios setup > voltages > cpu voltage to -0.25 V then step it down one at a time untill the machine is no longer stable and then bump it up one notch from that

HELLSPAWNPR · May 1, 2010

is the case well ventilated ? i have my 630 OC at 3.6Ghz 1.4v temps 39c and during the day since the weather in Puerto Rico this week been uper 90s been at 50c -55c

n-ster · May 1, 2010

WAYYYYYY to hot for stock.. I got 55 MAX with OCCT or IBT etc... at an overclock to 3.1ghz... (though it was below stock voltage)

You should try to undervolt your CPU and see if that makes a drastic improvement... I could get 1.1V with stock clock, so try 1.22V in BIOS on stock clock to see if that helps

exow2 · May 1, 2010

rjc862003 said:
cool and quiet / installing southbridge drivers will not help you here
remove the cooler clean is and reapply some AC5 or other good thermal paste
AMD specs the maximum temp for the chip @ 70C
also post a screenshot of cpu-z /WHILE under load ( have a feeling you're board IS infact using 1.42v for the chip instead of the 1.36 OR 1.38 volts it REALLY needs like mine)
if the above fails
you can try this
bios setup > voltages > cpu voltage to -0.25 V then step it down one at a time untill the machine is no longer stable and then bump it up one notch from that

Alright, I don't have any good cooling paste on hand but come monday I'll buy a good brand and do as you said. I posted that screenshot of the pc under load and while playing BFBC2 it went up to a whopping 65C..I'm getting a little nervous here as it seems like it's just getting worse and worse :eek:

. Take a look at CPU-Z and tell me what you think please

n-ster · May 1, 2010

1.4xx V is too much I believe that is your problem, that means in BIOS, it is close to 1.5V...

Go ahead and put your voltage at 1.3V (thats around stock voltage) manually right now and see if that works well

exow2 · May 1, 2010

n-ster said:
1.4xx V is too much I believe that is your problem, that means in BIOS, it is close to 1.5V...

Go ahead and put your voltage at 1.3V (thats around stock voltage) manually right now and see if that works well

Alright but I'm not sure on what you guys are talking about to lower the voltage. All I'm getting are options to raise the voltage, nothing to lower it in my BIOS. Example: giving me options to up the voltage +50mv, +100mv, or plus 150mv. Help please

n-ster · May 1, 2010

Ah, you'll need Erocker's help here, since I do not have experience with your mobo

exow2 · May 1, 2010

erocker said:
You need a USB stick formatted with FAT. In the bios there is an ezflash option. With your USB stick inserted with the bios file on it, it should work.

N-ster was explaining to me that my voltage in the BIOS was much too high. Could you maybe help me in my BIOS since I don't have much experience to lower my CPU voltage to about 1.3? It would be greaaaaaaaaaaaatly appreciated :toast:

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