Amd or intel for a budget system just buy Amd and forget about it

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

AMD Ryzen 5 3600 vs. Intel Core i5-9400F: Mainstream Titans Clash

When we reviewed the new Ryzen 5 3600 we had plenty of positive things to say about it, and that was comparing it to the more expensive...

www.techspot.com

Some actual Verses testing i5 9400 vs 3600

And who wins , Amd of course.

 

[dirtyferret]

while I agree with going with AMD in that situation, the AMD 3600 is $200 while the i5-9400 is $150. The i5-9600k would be closer in cost to the AMD 3600...

 

[xtreemchaos]

agreed, every dog has its day and AMD is the dog at the moment.

 

[Bill_Bright]

I don't know. I always have a problem with these budget build comparisons. To me, it is not just about the CPU. If the goal is all about cutting pennies off the budget today, then fine. But a computer build is also about the motherboard, RAM, graphics, case, PSU, OS, drives, monitor, keyboard, mouse, and speakers. Then it is about time - spreading those costs over several years of use. With all that factored in, I really wonder how much saving a few on the CPU really matters.

I feel unless you really "need" the computer today for school or work (for games is a want, not a need), then I would advise waiting and building up the budget so you don't have to go at or near entry level.

 

[Deleted member 67555]

AMD Ryzen 5 3600 vs. Intel Core i5-9400F: Mainstream Titans Clash

When we reviewed the new Ryzen 5 3600 we had plenty of positive things to say about it, and that was comparing it to the more expensive...

www.techspot.com

Some actual Verses testing i5 9400 vs 3600

And who wins , Amd of course.

At microcenter
I can buy a 9400f a mobo and 16gb of ddr4 3000mhz for $220 after tax... The 3600 a mobo and 16gb of memory is $270...
If you're talking budget budget as in strapped for cash it's gonna be Intel (and I can't believe I said that for ac decent processor)

The 9400f is $135 at microcenter with $30 off a compatible Mobo.

The 3600 is $200 with $50 off a compatible mobo

 

[Vayra86]

I don't know. I always have a problem with these budget build comparisons. To me, it is not just about the CPU. If the goal is all about cutting pennies off the budget today, then fine. But a computer build is also about the motherboard, RAM, graphics, case, PSU, OS, drives, monitor, keyboard, mouse, and speakers. Then it is about time - spreading those costs over several years of use. With all that factored in, I really wonder how much saving a few on the CPU really matters.

I feel unless you really "need" the computer today for school or work (for games is a want, not a need), then I would advise waiting and building up the budget so you don't have to go at or near entry level.

So much this. Budget PC is frankly a whole lot about everything around the CPU. CPU and RAM is mostly annoying because it costs money. The rest is picking features you need or want. Wireless Wifi, USB ports on the case and board, cooling options, form factor, that kinda stuff.

My last budget build was a Ryzen 2200G and the board was the biggest expense along with RAM and storage. The CPU is a non issue.

What that youtube compares is really midrange gaming and even for that the options are the usual give/take of a few % deviation in performance for a few % deviation in price. It tends to come down to timing and location more than anything.

I think the title should be AMD being competitive at every performance and price point, which is absolutely true.

That Ryzen 3600 truly shines if you pit it against a higher segment, because it can run with the big boys with no problems whatsoever - it is MUCH more consistent than the 9400F, and scores better on min FPS across the board. This 9400F is a weird comparison. This spells it out rather nicely

Cost per frame, what was that about budget? This CPU exists to obliterate the typical gamer's CPU price point of around 300-350 eur on Intel (8700K range), doing it for 200 instead. Now that's real business. The only niche it can't cover is high refresh gaming if you care about the last 5%, which imo is negligible at this point.

 

[dirtyferret]

At microcenter
I can buy a 9400f a mobo and 16gb of ddr4 3000mhz for $220 after tax... The 3600 a mobo and 16gb of memory is $270...
If you're talking budget budget as in strapped for cash it's gonna be Intel (and I can't believe I said that for ac decent processor)

The 9400f is $135 at microcenter with $30 off a compatible Mobo.

The 3600 is $200 with $50 off a compatible mobo

I'm so used to Microcenter's CPU prices; I have to go look on amazon for recommendations and then I have to double check on newegg because the Amazon prices don't look right o me.

 

[Vario]

You can get an i5 8400 for $100-120 used or open box, that presents a good value option. I bought one i5 8400 for $130 open box at Microcenter. I've seen them used on OfferUp and eBay and Craigslist for around that price. They can't be overclocked so they likely are not abused in any way. The locked 8400/9400 will probably last decades so one year or two of preowned usage will do nothing to its viability. Sometimes Microcenter claims the open box items aren't valid for the discount packages but you can often do it anyway, they usually don't care when it comes time to buy it.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

At microcenter
I can buy a 9400f a mobo and 16gb of ddr4 3000mhz for $220 after tax... The 3600 a mobo and 16gb of memory is $270...
If you're talking budget budget as in strapped for cash it's gonna be Intel (and I can't believe I said that for ac decent processor)

The 9400f is $135 at microcenter with $30 off a compatible Mobo.

The 3600 is $200 with $50 off a compatible mobo

Well take a step out of your perspective because I can't buy that
I can buy a 2600 for cheaper overclock it with Pbo and get close enough for cheap enough though.

 

[dirtyferret]

You can get an i5 8400 for $100-120 used or open box, that presents a good value option. I bought one i5 8400 for $130 open box at Microcenter. I've seen them used on OfferUp and eBay and Craigslist for around that price. They can't be overclocked so they likely are not abused in any way. The locked 8400/9400 will probably last decades so one year or two of preowned usage will do nothing to its viability. Sometimes Microcenter claims the open box items aren't valid for the discount packages but you can often do it anyway, they usually don't care when it comes time to buy it.

Well take a step out of your perspective because I can't buy that
I can buy a 2600 for cheaper overclock it with Pbo and get close enough for cheap enough though.

And in both scenarios you get a CPU that gets close to 100FPS in virtually every game out there as long as the GPU can handle the graphics.

 

[cucker tarlson]

AMD Ryzen 5 3600 vs. Intel Core i5-9400F: Mainstream Titans Clash

When we reviewed the new Ryzen 5 3600 we had plenty of positive things to say about it, and that was comparing it to the more expensive...

www.techspot.com

Some actual Verses testing i5 9400 vs 3600

And who wins , Amd of course.

just buy it.

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

You can get an i5 8400 for $100-120 used or open box, that presents a good value option. I bought one i5 8400 for $130 open box at Microcenter. I've seen them used on OfferUp and eBay and Craigslist for around that price. They can't be overclocked so they likely are not abused in any way. The locked 8400/9400 will probably last decades so one year or two of preowned usage will do nothing to its viability. Sometimes Microcenter claims the open box items aren't valid for the discount packages but you can often do it anyway, they usually don't care when it comes time to buy it.

I agree. Used CPUs are pretty low risk buys, especially the locked ones. Motherboards and GPUs are more the gamble. Even then, I think the build quality and engineering on components in the past 10 years is pretty solid. Gone are the days of blown and leaky capacitors!