AMD Ryzen 3 4300G Swarming the Market at $100-ish

[btarunr]

AMD's entry-level Ryzen 3 4300G APU, which was being sold in the OEM/SI channels, is sneaking its way into the retail PIB space, with Japanese retailers listing it as a retail part. Until now, you could only get the 4300G as part of a pre-built, or as part of a retail "bundle," where they would simply pull one of these chips out of a tray, install it on an entry-level A520 or A320 chipset motherboard, and sell along with a stick of memory. The 4300G is commanding a roughly $100 (equivalent) price, which could make sense for entry-level mom-and-pop PCs.

The Ryzen 3 4300G is based on the 7 nm "Renoir" silicon, and is a Socket AM4 processor with integrated graphics. The processor has one of its two CCXs disabled, leaving you with a 4-core/8-thread CPU based on the "Zen 2" microarchitecture, that has 512 KB of L2 cache per core, and 4 MB of L3 cache shared among the four cores. The processor also features a dual-channel DDR4 memory interface, a PCI-Express Gen 3 interface, and an iGPU based on the Radeon "Vega" graphics architecture. It has a TDP of 65 W.



View at TechPowerUp Main Site | Source

 

[john_]

In Greece it is available for many months

AMD Ryzen 3 4300G 3.8GHz Επεξεργαστής 4 Πυρήνων για Socket AM4 σε Κουτί | Skroutz.gr

 

[P4-630]

Here available since November 8, 2022 in NL, EU

 

[playerlorenzo]

4mb of l3 cache, zen 2, and vega apu…

Man, AMD seems to be really desperate to clean off outdated stuff out their shelves.

This isn’t even the only time this happened either, they literally made GCN 1.0 mobile dgpus that weren’t even faster than the laptop’s integrated graphics in 2019 (radeon 610, which was a rebranded radeon 520)

 

[john_]

It's strange. The media is flooding this "news" about the 4300G as being a new APU option for the DIY market and I wonder.

How can they have missed it being available for 4-6 months, maybe in a few markets even for longer than that?

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

$100? A 4600G goes for that much in the US. Mebbe it will be cheaper over here.

 

[Lionheart]

Gross, overpriced KEKW

 

[A Computer Guy]

$100? A 4600G goes for that much in the US. Mebbe it will be cheaper over here.

for a very brief time 5600G was available for $100. Still waiting to see if that deal will come back or not.

 

[Chrispy_]

I'm dumping multiple 4770+H87+32GB RAM bundles on ebay and the going rate for those is about $100 too.

If I wanted 2015 core counts and clock speeds I'm not sure I'd want to pay good money on new DDR4 and all the benefits AM4 brings to the table. Clearly at quad-core you're after the cheapest POS you can get your hands on that works.

 

[AusWolf]

Meanwhile in the UK...

The world has gone mad.

 

[Icon Charlie]

I'm dumping multiple 4770+H87+32GB RAM bundles on ebay and the going rate for those is about $100 too.

If I wanted 2015 core counts and clock speeds I'm not sure I'd want to pay good money on new DDR4 and all the benefits AM4 brings to the table. Clearly at quad-core you're after the cheapest POS you can get your hands on that works.

However.... This is not bad for the price. If I can create flash animation on a Abit BP6, man this would be Ballz to the Wallz for 3rd world countries.

Like I've been saying. What "IS" obsolete. I've got a printer that's 27 years old and its overall better than what is seen for home use. Or a few legacy machines so I can play those Dos games I remember. It's how you use your equipment is what counts.

And oh I had the 4770S tricked out as well. Sandy Bridge was a good series for Intel.

 

[Denver]

But the 4600G is on sale for a similar price... So Whyy???

 

[BSim500]

This was far more needed about 2 years ago when people were panic buying GT 1030's at £99 due to almost every GPU being completely out of stock during the worst of the mining shortages. Instead AMD refused to release this, then refused the 5300G, and by now they should be selling the 7300G. Quad-core 4000 series in 2023 is too little, far too late now.

 

[Operandi]

The processor has one of its two CCXs disabled, leaving you with a 4-core/8-thread CPU based on the "Zen 2" microarchitecture, that has 512 KB of L2 cache per core, and 4 MB of L3 cache shared among the four cores.

Its insane to me that AMD is still in 2023 selling 4 core / 8 thread CPUs like this and don't have a dedicated piece of silicon to meet this part of the market. I can't imagine yields are bad enough to produce dies in any meaningful numbers that need to disable an entire CCX so either they are selling like next nothing with this SKU or they are disabling perfectly good 8 core dies, neither option is good.

 

[trsttte]

Its insane to me that AMD is still in 2023 selling 4 core / 8 thread CPUs

Nothing wrong with a quad core, the problem is a quadcore that is simply not competitive with everything else on the market and even worse making news of it when it's been available for a long time already

 

[LabRat 891]

Low-line Ryzen in (r)Etail and Secondary Market pricing on all Ryzens, is absolutely mad. -has been for years now.
It's super-common to find new Ryzens online/in-store that are LESS MONEY than recently sold examples USED on eBay. Also, the 3100x and 3300x were/are demanding a premium new and used both. (even after they were greatly superseded in performance)

My PoV: Manufacturers as well as (r)Etailers and independent sellers are taking advantage of hype/attention and 'knowledge gaps' in the general prospective customer base.
Reminds me of entry-level 'graphics adapters' that are sold at a premium and advertised as having 2x-4x the VRAM the given chip could ever use: Less performance, more price; taking advantage of naïveté.
and
How 'retro kit' always inflates in price after new releases from the RetroPCgaming YouTubers / 'recent kit' inflating after a TechTuber does a video on it.

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

Now that I think about it - did the monolithic APUs actually use a CCX design?

Zen 3 had an 8-core CCX, so it didn't make any difference, but I never really realized that Zen 2 still had the cores in a CCX design.

All the more reason to dodge Zen 2 stuff if you can find Zen 3.

 

[coozie78]

Been around here in the UK for a while, too ( as has already been said ).
Plenty out there ( mom and pop machines as the article says ) don't really need even an
8 thread part TBH, I mean just how much grunt do you need to surf the net
or watch a 1080 movie off Netflix?
Not everyone wants to go used-there's little or no warranty.
That said, with the 5600G so close in price and with far better overall performance
I can't see this being other than a bottom-of-the-bargain-barrel choice.

Recenty updated by brothers system WITH a 5600G BTW, not surprisinly it's
a massive improvement over the previous ' mom and pop ' core it had:
FX6300/8GB RAM and...HD7950 GPU.
If the MB hadn't gone bad he'd still be happily using it-for surfing the web
and watching 1080 movies.
We don't all need fire breathing HAL 9000 systems.

 

[sLowEnd]

Actual price will likely be lower. PC parts are rather expensive in Japan compared to many parts of the world, so a direct price translation doesn't really work.

If it does actually arrive in the US at $100, it's DOA, as the 6-core 4600G is going for $100 right now.

 

[Chrispy_]

However.... This is not bad for the price. If I can create flash animation on a Abit BP6, man this would be Ballz to the Wallz for 3rd world countries.

Like I've been saying. What "IS" obsolete. I've got a printer that's 27 years old and its overall better than what is seen for home use. Or a few legacy machines so I can play those Dos games I remember. It's how you use your equipment is what counts.

And oh I had the 4770S tricked out as well. Sandy Bridge was a good series for Intel.

I normally just sell the CPU+board+RAM platform but I sometimes sell whole systems with 4770 and RX570 8GB. It's obscene how much you can do with that if you don't mind waiting a little longer for encodes/renders/results or if you don't mind running games at a lower resolution.

It's easy to get swept up in the hype of the latest and greatest CPUs and GPUs but you can still get most of the experience for peanuts. If anything, gaming on a 4770 and RX570 proves just how little you really need to enjoy a game. When you look at benchmarks and see the RTX 4090 getting 300fps it sure looks impressive in a bar graph but the game is still fun at 60fps.

If anyone asks me for build advice at work when they're on a tight budget, I always tell them to go and spend their CPU and GPU budget on decent peripherals, hand them a free 4770, RX570, and 500GB SSD, and tell them not to buy the shittiest case or PSU they can find. The peripherals, case, and PSU will last a decade and if they want to upgrade the CPU and GPU down the line that's an easy job.

 

[coozie78]

I normally just sell the CPU+board+RAM platform but I sometimes sell whole systems with 4770 and RX570 8GB. It's obscene how much you can do with that if you don't mind waiting a little longer for encodes/renders/results or if you don't mind running games at a lower resolution.

It's easy to get swept up in the hype of the latest and greatest CPUs and GPUs but you can still get most of the experience for peanuts. If anything, gaming on a 4770 and RX570 proves just how little you really need to enjoy a game. When you look at benchmarks and see the RTX 4090 getting 300fps it sure looks impressive in a bar graph but the game is still fun at 60fps.

If anyone asks me for build advice at work when they're on a tight budget, I always tell them to go and spend their CPU and GPU budget on decent peripherals, hand them a free 4770, RX570, and 500GB SSD, and tell them not to buy the shittiest case or PSU they can find. The peripherals, case, and PSU will last a decade and if they want to upgrade the CPU and GPU down the line that's an easy job.

You are a person of outstanding generosity, I salute you.
And yes, many of us here want-or hope for-fire breathing setups, but, as you say, 60FPS is still more than playable and many are still at HD rez, which hugely lowers the system requirements, even
for current AAA titles.
Sage advice about the PSU and case as well, too many cheap out on the PSU in particular, When posting ' elsewhere ' on a regular basis It was one of my regular comments: Get a good PSU, especially if
you're going high end, cheap stuff can cause issues, even new.

 

[Chrispy_]

You are a person of outstanding generosity, I salute you.
And yes, many of us here want-or hope for-fire breathing setups, but, as you say, 60FPS is still more than playable and many are still at HD rez, which hugely lowers the system requirements, even
for current AAA titles.
Sage advice about the PSU and case as well, too many cheap out on the PSU in particular, When posting ' elsewhere ' on a regular basis It was one of my regular comments: Get a good PSU, especially if
you're going high end, cheap stuff can cause issues, even new.

We donate old hardware to schools and charities for a tax break, so it's not all philanthropy but the staff who usually approach me for build advice are typically fresh hires on lower wages or probation - typically graduates paying off student debts while trying to pay city rent. It was bad for me 20+ years ago and it sure as hell hasn't become better.

I don't ask for anything in return but I can't say I don't appreciate the merits of regular "thank you" bottles of liquor, wine etc.

 

[Mussels]

Is this one of the parts that's really similar to their console stuff?

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

Is this one of the parts that's really similar to their console stuff?

Not really. It is basically a 4700G with one CCX and a third of the IGP disabled.

The closest would be the Steam Deck - but that is custom silicon with only 4 cores to start with, and 512 RDNA 2 shaders. Also, a LPDDR5 IMC instead of DDR4.

The XBOX and PlayStation APUs are even further off, with 8 cores each and a GDDR5 IMC. They also use RDNA 2 graphics with 2k+ shaders.

 

[Mussels]

Not really. It is basically a 4700G with one CCX and a third of the IGP disabled.

The closest would be the Steam Deck - but that is custom silicon with only 4 cores to start with, and 512 RDNA 2 shaders. Also, a LPDDR5 IMC instead of DDR4.

The XBOX and PlayStation APUs are even further off, with 8 cores each and a GDDR5 IMC. They also use RDNA 2 graphics with 2k+ shaders.

couldnt be stuffed googling it, thanks
It just sounded of a similar era/generation at first glance and i wondered if they were console parts repurposed (the joys of a modular CPU design)

I'm dumping multiple 4770+H87+32GB RAM bundles on ebay and the going rate for those is about $100 too.

If I wanted 2015 core counts and clock speeds I'm not sure I'd want to pay good money on new DDR4 and all the benefits AM4 brings to the table. Clearly at quad-core you're after the cheapest POS you can get your hands on that works.

Well to be fair, this 4300G is faster than intel CPU's generations newer than that

Not a website i know well, not many reviews of these CPUs
AMD Ryzen 3 4300G vs Intel Core i7-4770 @ 3.40GHz [cpubenchmark.net] by PassMark Software

The little info i can find puts them ahead of a 3300X, they perform well for the low core count