Artifacting!!!

AphexDreamer · Mar 30, 2008

Ok, I just insatlled my Acrtic Cooler for my 2900 PRO and temps are recorded as ok yet I am getting all these afrtifacts, I don't know what to do!

First time boot was ok now I keep getting this.

Also the fans won't rotate on there own, I have to push them so they can start rotating again.

jbunch07 · Mar 30, 2008

was it doing this before you install the new cooler?

Steevo · Mar 30, 2008

you perhaps got some TIM on the core or on something else. Or you put on too much and after the first run in when it phase changed to a more liquid and settled it flowed out onto something on the core.

Dark_Webster · Mar 30, 2008

Perhaps too much pressure to the core?? Just launching ideas...

DOM · Mar 30, 2008

AphexDreamer said:
Also the fans won't rotate on there own, I have to push them so they can start rotating again.

what fans ?

AphexDreamer · Mar 30, 2008

I have the Artic Cooler Accelero Extreme and I used a very very thin layer of Liqued Metal Thermal Paste. I just uplugged my PC for like 5min and booted up. I got a few artifactes and then they just went a way.

All is well for now, I am going to run a game see if its ok. I konw its heat cause it like 40C so maybe its something with the liqued metal. I don't know...

Wait never mind it artifactes randomly now.

Kursah · Mar 30, 2008

Try a different TIM that's non-conductive, like MX-2 or something...maybe that liquid metal is creating a contact point after seating that's shorting something on the GPU out?

If I were you, I'd rip the card out and remove the HSF and double check.

DOM · Mar 30, 2008

doesnt liquid metal eat some HS

Dr. Spankenstein · Mar 30, 2008

Did you test for contact first?

By that I mean, did you apply some TIM, press it down, remove and see how the contact was? Or did you just hope for the best?

Reason I ask is that IF you checked for contact, there are times when the TIM is in a gummy state and can act like gum stuck to your shoe on a hot day. Tiny little strands pull and stretch then break,drift and stick to everything around it.

Being "liquid metal" does make it sound conductive. I'd pull the cooler and swab her down with some lab-grade acetone or 91% isopropyl.

Hope you get this figured out soon!

Kursah · Mar 30, 2008

DOM_ATI_X800XL_PCI-E said:
doesnt liquid metal eat some HS

Aluminum I'm pretty sure....I never purchased the stuff...never had interest in it as AS5 and MX 1/2 were good enuf for me!

DOM · Mar 30, 2008

Kursah said:
Aluminum I'm pretty sure....I never purchased the stuff...never had interest in it as AS5 and MX 1/2 were good enuf for me!

cuz can the cooper have some in it or some other metal in it ?

Kursah · Mar 30, 2008

I'm not sure...I'd have to find the spec sheet and warning list on it, all I know is that stuff is not compatable with some metals and causes accelerated degredation and permanent damage...

jbunch07 · Mar 30, 2008

it does eat aluminum!

Bundy · Mar 31, 2008

AphexDreamer said:
Also the fans won't rotate on there own, I have to push them so they can start rotating again.

Seems like your new fan is bigger than the old one and the card isn't giving it enough juice. Can you adjust your idle fan speed?

A deficiency of many components like graphics cards is that there is only one temp sensor but several spots that get hot. Just because the GPU is cold, doesn't mean the GDDR is. Can you try speed fan and check what is causing the artifacts? i.e. downclock memory and see if it goes away.
if so, check that all your RAM is being cooled evenly.

newtekie1 · Mar 31, 2008

What TIM did you use on the memory? I hope it wasn't the liquid metal. My guess is also that the GDDR is overheating or possibly fried.

Kursah · Mar 31, 2008

newtekie1 said:
What TIM did you use on the memory? I hope it wasn't the liquid metal. My guess is also that the GDDR is overheating or possibly fried.

Yeah that's a good point, I guess we'll have to hope that he didn't use that stuff for the GDDR...hopefully we'll find out soon...

jbunch07 · Mar 31, 2008

man he is so screwed if he did

rangerone766 · Mar 31, 2008

Dark_Webster said:
Perhaps too much pressure to the core?? Just launching ideas...

i changed the tim on a 9600pro turbo that i over tightend. at 2d it was fine for a few minutes the it would heat up/expand then artifac like crazy. loosening the screws a half turn each fixed it.

Geonerd · Mar 31, 2008

The lines all start at similar locations. This makes me think it's a memory access problem. I'm suspecting a cracked solder joint somewhere.

Fire up the computer, open the case, and grab the inside corner of the vidcard (ground yourself to the case first!) Gently flex the card a small amount. If the screen goes apeshit, you've got a physical problem with the card; a cracked joint or maybe a delaminated layer in the PCB.

If flexing the card had no effect, check for stray heatsink goop on the board, and double check physical contact between GPU and heatsink. (If GPU temps are good, this is almost certainly OK.)

You might also try pulling the card and cleaning the contacts with rubbing alcohol and a cloth. Again, observe static safety procedures!

Good luck.

AphexDreamer · Mar 31, 2008

Man this suxs soooo much. I went and took of my new Heat Sink and put back on the old HR-03 and it wouldn't even boot. My MB gave me the Beeb code you get when you have no GPU installed. So then I put back the Artic and still the same shit.

I think the Mem was Overheating as welll, but I was useing that padded stuff it came with that was ment to cool the Mem, I guess it didn't work well.

Now I think I have broken my card. :banghead:

and for nothing, it wasn't even during an OC. :banghead:

Unless someone has some Magical Idea, I think I have lost this card for good.

Also trying to remove the RAM heatsinks that came with my HR-03 I used a Flat Head Screw Driver. I did scratch like two GDDR4 Mem Chips trying to remove it, but they are like very minor surface scratches. I just don't know what to think.

Dr. Spankenstein · Mar 31, 2008

AphexDreamer said:
Also trying to remove the RAM heatsinks that came with my HR-03 I used a Flat Head Screw Driver. I did scratch like two GDDR4 Mem Chips trying to remove it, but they are like very minor surface scratches. I just don't know what to think.

There is a little more pertinent information. That kind of prying action surely could have broken some of the BGA contacts as Geonerd suspected.

Kinda confused as to why the mobo would give you a beep code with the card installed...

AphexDreamer · Mar 31, 2008

You know what I think I did wrong... I must have installed the Padded Thermal stuff for the RAM wrong. Like put them on upside down so it was not removeing heat correctly.

Now that I think I have found out the issue, my card won't even work... AHHHH! I HATE MY SELF!!

Anyways guys thanks for the kind info and support. I'm going to have to pray for my card to magicly work again. :respect:

Dr. Spankenstein · Mar 31, 2008

Not to pour salt into an already open wound, but how does one apply the thermal pads wrong?

newtekie1 · Mar 31, 2008

I don't think you can apply them wrong. There is no set direction they have to be applied in.

My guess is that the RAM was damaged during the prying off of the old ram-sinks.

AphexDreamer · Mar 31, 2008

newtekie1 said:
I don't think you can apply them wrong. There is no set direction they have to be applied in.

My guess is that the RAM was damaged during the prying off of the old ram-sinks.

Iono, Its like a very very small 2mm scratch on it that didn't even puncture the RAM Chip.

I don't think that was it, I just doesn't seem like it. Now if it were really deep and like bit of the Chip had come out I would think so.

But the thing is now I'll I see is a blank screen, no post, no BIOS or anything.

I'll just have to find out what my options are here.

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