ASUS TUF A15 FA507NVR (2024) Ryzen 7 7435HS + RTX 4060 8GB

[hermesa]

Guys , I bought this brand new laptop days ago , and I noticed that GPU temperatures are good - like 50-60 while gaming and 77max on stress test.But the CPU while gaming some CPU intensive games sometimes spikes up to 95C and even 96(when loading games , maps and when playing CPU intensive games it stays in the high 80's or 91 max).When I disable CPU boost from G-helper (I have fan curve which leads like 30C-40% fan speed, 40C-50% fan speed and so on..), it barely hits +75C degrees but that way I don't use its full potential and I see somewhere drops from 5-10-15fps.Anyway , I want to use the laptop with boost enabled but the CPU temeprature bothers me since the 7435hs cpu is described with 95C Tjmax and I don't want to damage the chip or something over time(at least not in the next 2 years when I pay the laptop cuz I bought it on leasing).I am waiting my cooling pad to arrive in the next few days but I don't believe it will do any job because the intake holes of the laptop are pretty small. Do you guys think I have to repaste the factory paste with MX-6 thermal paste because in a previous laptop that I had (FX505DT ,2020) it lowered down the temperatures with 20C for gpu and 10-15C for CPU) and It wasn't necessary to even buy an cooling pad - well when I opened the FX505DT laptop(2020) the factory thermal paste was something like jelly, not cooked or something , but like jelly and white.I wonder if this is the case with this new laptop because there are no information about what thermal paste is used in manufactoring these laptops. I know this cpu is much more powerfull than the FX505DT Ryzen 5 3550h and getting higher temps is logical but still hitting the Tjmax is bothering me. The laptop is 4 days old since I got it. Idle temperatures with boost disabled are around and under 40C for both cpu and gpu , and with boost enabled are 50C for cpu and 40 for GPU.When gaming - temperatures with disabled boost are perfect for a laptop , but I need to leave on the table 10-15fps in the cpu intesive games.I paid for it and I want to use it all(I hope you understand what I mean).Yeah , it's a budget gaming laptop I know....And laptop hardware is performing much worse than the PC hardware of the same type and that's the reason I want to use all of it's potential (that 15 fps matters for me) .I noticed that In battlefield 2042 , when I enable boost - the fps is same but the cpu is throttling and make my game looks awful even tho I have stable 100+ fps ,when I disable boost it stays around the same fps but the game runs much more smoothly. This happens only in this game.In world of tanks I have 144stablewith boost enabled and the game runs smoothly(I think it locks with G-sync) , when I turn off it goes 120-130 and the game doesn't look so good.

 

[Deleted member 242843]

You may have to find an acceptable level of performance and live with it. Sacrificing 10-15 fps for more sustainable temps isn't that bad. Taking it apart to re-apply TIM will most likely void your warranty, so you might want to take it up with the manufacturer first. Or send it back and get something else. I wouldn't own an Asus laptop personally.

 

[hermesa]

You may have to find an acceptable level of performance and live with it. Sacrificing 10-15 fps for more sustainable temps isn't that bad. Taking it apart to re-apply TIM will most likely void your warranty, so you might want to take it up with the manufacturer first. Or send it back and get something else. I wouldn't own an Asus laptop personally.

ASUS is pretty good tbh I like this brand plus in this budget ASUS offers best deals for budget laptops with good parts, my other option was ACER or some MSI(which MSI was with lower specifications)
, actually we don't have much options here in Bulgaria.If the thermal paste is that bad as I think it is , it could fry my laptop for 2 years until the warranty expires :l Ofcourse I have an option from the warranty and the reseller that I bought it from to send it for maintance and reapplying thermal paste but sending your pc for maintance to a bulgarian service is like sending it to a toddler.The only good thing from the warranty is that if something happens to the laptop they would replace it.

 

[Deleted member 242843]

If you are cool with voiding the warranty, then yeah, go for it. I'd redo the pads too. Can get honeywell ptm 7950 pretty cheap and easy these days. It will help some. We can respectfully disagree about asus (I'd rather have an msi, acer, dell, lenovo, anything...). Your options are few on improving your cooling. If the fan pad doesn't help, and the repaste doesn't help, you are stuck with a lemon. Right now, warranty or replacement are still options. If you can't keep this one cool, then something slightly lower power that will stay cool isn't a bad option, since you'll have to limit performance on the one you've got. Kinda works out the same

 

[eidairaman1]

Guys , I bought this brand new laptop days ago , and I noticed that GPU temperatures are good - like 50-60 while gaming and 77max on stress test.But the CPU while gaming some CPU intensive games sometimes spikes up to 95C and even 96(when loading games , maps and when playing CPU intensive games it stays in the high 80's or 91 max).When I disable CPU boost from G-helper (I have fan curve which leads like 30C-40% fan speed, 40C-50% fan speed and so on..), it barely hits +75C degrees but that way I don't use its full potential and I see somewhere drops from 5-10-15fps.Anyway , I want to use the laptop with boost enabled but the CPU temeprature bothers me since the 7435hs cpu is described with 95C Tjmax and I don't want to damage the chip or something over time(at least not in the next 2 years when I pay the laptop cuz I bought it on leasing).I am waiting my cooling pad to arrive in the next few days but I don't believe it will do any job because the intake holes of the laptop are pretty small. Do you guys think I have to repaste the factory paste with MX-6 thermal paste because in a previous laptop that I had (FX505DT ,2020) it lowered down the temperatures with 20C for gpu and 10-15C for CPU) and It wasn't necessary to even buy an cooling pad - well when I opened the FX505DT laptop(2020) the factory thermal paste was something like jelly, not cooked or something , but like jelly and white.I wonder if this is the case with this new laptop because there are no information about what thermal paste is used in manufactoring these laptops. I know this cpu is much more powerfull than the FX505DT Ryzen 5 3550h and getting higher temps is logical but still hitting the Tjmax is bothering me. The laptop is 4 days old since I got it. Idle temperatures with boost disabled are around and under 40C for both cpu and gpu , and with boost enabled are 50C for cpu and 40 for GPU.When gaming - temperatures with disabled boost are perfect for a laptop , but I need to leave on the table 10-15fps in the cpu intesive games.I paid for it and I want to use it all(I hope you understand what I mean).Yeah , it's a budget gaming laptop I know....And laptop hardware is performing much worse than the PC hardware of the same type and that's the reason I want to use all of it's potential (that 15 fps matters for me) .I noticed that In battlefield 2042 , when I enable boost - the fps is same but the cpu is throttling and make my game looks awful even tho I have stable 100+ fps ,when I disable boost it stays around the same fps but the game runs much more smoothly. This happens only in this game.In world of tanks I have 144stablewith boost enabled and the game runs smoothly(I think it locks with G-sync) , when I turn off it goes 120-130 and the game doesn't look so good.

All mobiles suck today.

Get this:

 

[Apocalypsee]

I have FX506 and exhibit similar issue, I use Throttlestop to undervolt. But since you got an AMD APU probably you can probably configure TDP. You could use Universal x86 tuning utility below

Releases · JamesCJ60/Universal-x86-Tuning-Utility

 

[eidairaman1]

I have FX506 and exhibit similar issue, I use Throttlestop to undervolt. But since you got an AMD APU probably you can probably configure TDP. You could use Universal x86 tuning utility below

Releases · JamesCJ60/Universal-x86-Tuning-Utility

Its pretty lame that 3rd party tools are needed to fix these mobiles and i dont care if its amd or intel based, it's utterly pathetic now.

I never had a thermal problem or a stutter with a Dell XPS Gen 1/Inspiron 9100 Laptop and it was as thick as some school text books, it handled a Northwood Extreme 3.4 GHz, i865 chipset and a Radeon 9800, which was overclocked. The Alternate CPU was a Prescott 3.2 which never had a problem either.

'Mobile gaming' is an oxymoron anymore when it comes to notebooks and 'laptops' today.

Seems only the handhelds are a viable alternative which is pretty sad.

 

[Apocalypsee]

Its pretty lame that 3rd party tools are needed to fix these mobiles and i dont care if its amd or intel based, it's utterly pathetic now.

I never had a thermal problem or a stutter with a Dell XPS Gen 1/Inspiron 9100 Laptop and it was as thick as some school text books, it handled a Northwood Extreme 3.4 GHz, i865 chipset and a Radeon 9800, which was overclocked. The Alternate CPU was a Prescott 3.2 which never had a problem either.

Exactly, it's just OEM manufacturer obsessed with thin 'gaming laptops' that have inadequate cooling for their laptops Mine is pretty low end i5 11400H with RTX 3050, but even so seeing 90+C when gaming especially on CPU it's just ridiculous. I would prefer those thick laptops of yesteryear that have big heatsink and fan that spins quietly and could handle the heat.

I don't know whether those laptop coolers are worth it because most of the vents are not directly on the fan, again another stupid design.

 

[eidairaman1]

Exactly, it's just OEM manufacturer obsessed with thin 'gaming laptops' that have inadequate cooling for their laptops Mine is pretty low end i5 11400H with RTX 3050, but even so seeing 90+C when gaming especially on CPU it's just ridiculous. I would prefer those thick laptops of yesteryear that have big heatsink and fan that spins quietly and could handle the heat.

I don't know whether those laptop coolers are worth it because most of the vents are not directly on the fan, again another stupid design.

I shared that link to the best 1s available which actually use force.

It just pisses me off that people keep falling for the shitty mobiles and the engineers, beancounters, marketers and ceos keep pushing it

 

[kurosagi01]

Intel + AMD playing the race on who can get the closest to desktop grade performance in CPU department, which I wish they stopped doing that now.
I would rather see them focus on something like...target 70 or 80c max thermal temps at whatever speed first and then continue to improve on that template.
At least try and make it near desktop cooling temps within a laptop chassis, this pushing 5.8ghz or 6ghz at cost of running it close to 100c is silly.

 

[hermesa]

If you are cool with voiding the warranty, then yeah, go for it. I'd redo the pads too. Can get honeywell ptm 7950 pretty cheap and easy these days. It will help some. We can respectfully disagree about asus (I'd rather have an msi, acer, dell, lenovo, anything...). Your options are few on improving your cooling. If the fan pad doesn't help, and the repaste doesn't help, you are stuck with a lemon. Right now, warranty or replacement are still options. If you can't keep this one cool, then something slightly lower power that will stay cool isn't a bad option, since you'll have to limit performance on the one you've got. Kinda works out the same

Actually there is no need for replacement or warranty , it works great , just the temperature of the cpu is little bit on the edge which I think is normal.I see some game testing with this model where temperatures are around the same- just a little bit lower on their side.I ordered this Rampage AD-RC34 METAFOR cooling pad but I know it's not the best.I didn't had the 300 or 200BGN(150-100 dollars) for IETS GT500 or 600 and my budget was 120-130BGN(which is like 70-75 dollars) and yes I know there are good brands like Klim Ultimate,Klim Wind or something? Yeah but these cooling pads are not availabe here in our region so I went with this choice between RGB, some performance(1100-1900rpm) and yeah.Hope it works,my last resort is repasting and risking the warranty :l

Exactly, it's just OEM manufacturer obsessed with thin 'gaming laptops' that have inadequate cooling for their laptops Mine is pretty low end i5 11400H with RTX 3050, but even so seeing 90+C when gaming especially on CPU it's just ridiculous. I would prefer those thick laptops of yesteryear that have big heatsink and fan that spins quietly and could handle the heat.

I don't know whether those laptop coolers are worth it because most of the vents are not directly on the fan, again another stupid design.

Now I remember about a friend who bought super high end 2500$0 alienware laptop (i9 + 4000 series nvidia or smh) and he complained about 83C idle cpu and over 100 in gaming League of Legends, bro did all of them - changing thermal paste,pads,cooling pads, , checking for good contact with cooler and cpu plate,tried to undervolt(he couldn't because ofcourse the bios was locked) giving it to service and in the end nothing helped

 

[Deleted member 242843]

If you say so.

This $3000 dollar Sager doesn't get too hot......but it has realistic fan curve and performance goals.

 

[eidairaman1]

Intel + AMD playing the race on who can get the closest to desktop grade performance in CPU department, which I wish they stopped doing that now.
I would rather see them focus on something like...target 70 or 80c max thermal temps at whatever speed first and then continue to improve on that template.
At least try and make it near desktop cooling temps within a laptop chassis, this pushing 5.8ghz or 6ghz at cost of running it close to 100c is silly.

If they do that they need to make the chassis like what I stated above, those fans were thick

If you say so.

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This $3000 dollar Sager doesn't get too hot......but it has realistic fan curve and performance goals.

Eurocom was another

 

[kurosagi01]

If they do that they need to make the chassis like what I stated above, those fans were thick


Eurocom was another

For 18 inch I think they should just make them as thick as they need to be since those are meant to be "desktop" replacement.
I think if they added like a kick stand similar to a keyboard or even Nintendo switch, that can raise the laptop up slightly more, that will also reduce the temps down a little bit too if people don't want to use a cooling pad.
I know some people find the Alienware x16 chassis a bit stupid as it's a lot wider than the conventional 16" laptop but it's clever because it has intake fans from the bottom + top and then exhaust from the rear. If they made the ventilation holes on the bottom slightly wider and combine it with cooling pad I reckon it can knock another 5c off the temps I'm getting on my x16 with it's current undervolt and clock speed.
These are my current temps while playing FF7Remake Intergrade I'm getting with my current undervolt + CPU multiplier capped and undervolt on GPU with limiting the boost clock to the base Nvidia boost clock speed.
Fans running around 60% with IET500 around 30-50% speed.

 

[eidairaman1]

For 18 inch I think they should just make them as thick as they need to be since those are meant to be "desktop" replacement.
I know some people find the Alienware x16 chassis a bit stupid as it's a lot wider than the conventional 16" laptop but it's clever because it has intake fans from the bottom + top and then exhaust from the rear. If they made the ventilation holes on the bottom slightly wider and combine it with cooling pad I reckon it can knock another 5c off the temps I'm getting on my x16 with it's current undervolt and clock speed.
These are my current temps while playing FF7Remake Intergrade I'm getting with my current undervolt + CPU multiplier capped and undervolt on GPU with limiting the boost clock to the base Nvidia boost clock speed.
Fans running around 60% with IET500 around 30-50% speed.
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Yeah i never had to undervolt that laptop i had, heck i had the gpu overclocked to right before artifacting would occur.

 

[kurosagi01]

Yeah i never had to undervolt that laptop i had, heck i had the gpu overclocked to right before artifacting would occur.

I mainly done it so I can run it as long as I can before needing to do any maintenance.
Since the motherboard is on the top side on the x16, I don't think I will be bothering to repaste it and let the laptop die.

 

[hermesa]

I actually really doesn't care for the warranty.I am more interested if the change of asus factory thermal paste with MX-6 will give me any improvement.Even if its 2-3C it will be considered as a win.Anyway RMA service here in my country is slow as a turtle, I would collect more money to buy new laptop for the time waiting them to send it back to me fixed or renewed.

If you say so.

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This $3000 dollar Sager doesn't get too hot......but it has realistic fan curve and performance goals.

Update: After all I changed the thermal paste with MX-6...-5C degrees improvement ! I also did something stupid I guess , I saw there is like thermal putty(now I know what it is ) and I removed it and repasted with the thermal paste on the chokes and the mofsets...I didn't knew at the moment to be honest,I am ordering K5-Pro now so I can repaste them VRMs too. The only thing that bothered me is that there were no warranty stickers on the laptop.I bought it from authorized and famous seller.Neither there was on the laptop plate(I guess there were none because of upgrade options without voiding the warranty and didn't make me wonder) but then after I started repasting I noticed there are no stickers on the copper plate for cpu or gpu screws where laptops usually have. No signs of removed sticker or something. Is that normal ?

 

[eidairaman1]

I actually really doesn't care for the warranty.I am more interested if the change of asus factory thermal paste with MX-6 will give me any improvement.Even if its 2-3C it will be considered as a win.Anyway RMA service here in my country is slow as a turtle, I would collect more money to buy new laptop for the time waiting them to send it back to me fixed or renewed.


Update: After all I changed the thermal paste with MX-6...-5C degrees improvement ! I also did something stupid I guess , I saw there is like thermal putty(now I know what it is ) and I removed it and repasted with the thermal paste on the chokes and the mofsets...I didn't knew at the moment to be honest,I am ordering K5-Pro now so I can repaste them VRMs too. The only thing that bothered me is that there were no warranty stickers on the laptop.I bought it from authorized and famous seller.Neither there was on the laptop plate(I guess there were none because of upgrade options without voiding the warranty and didn't make me wonder) but then after I started repasting I noticed there are no stickers on the copper plate for cpu or gpu screws where laptops usually have. No signs of removed sticker or something. Is that normal ?

Hmm on the chassis screws its normal to see stickers but once inside no.

 

[hermesa]

Hmm on the chassis screws its normal to see stickers but once inside no.

Nope,neither inside,neither on the chassis...There were none