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Best ram for Ryzen 3950x - and what is the real use difference between these two?!

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Hi guys.

I am finishing off purchasing the last couple of components for my new Ryzen 3950x build, and understand from reviews that the DDR4 3600 MHz CL16's are the sweetspot for gen 3 cpu's.

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Up until now i've had the G.Skill TridentZ Neo 32 (or maybe the 64) GB kit solidly planted towards the top of my list of components to buy for this build. But it's not as simple as that it seems...

Today while almost checking out while buying the 32 GB kit, i stumbled upon a "similar product" popping up in the sidebar of the webshop - what caught my attention was the fact that this "similar product" happened to be the exact same kit as i was in the process of purchasing (or so i thought), a 32 GB kit of G.Skill TridentZ Neo's. Only these were 75% more expensive. "My kit" is 238$ (214€), while the other one is 417$ (374€).

After doing some more research, i found out why and what is the on paper difference, from looking up their model id's:

F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC: CL16-19-19-39 timings (238$)
F4-3600C16D-32GTZN CL16-16-16-36 timings (417$)

The cheaper set has the "C" at the end of the product id. As far as i understand the "C" version is NOT Samsung b-die, which i have been strongly recommended (?!) and actually thought it was, while the "non-C" version IS b-die - but also setting me back by an additional 179$ compared to the F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC.

So the million dollar question: Is the F4-3600C16D-32GTZN kit worth almost double the price - from a real life use point of view?

I will be doing light to medium image editing (photoshop), ordinary office work and gaming from time to time (please save the OVERKILL comments for another good time), and budget is not an issue as such - i'm just not sure about spitting an additional 179$ for something i might not get any advantage of, compared to putting that money into some other good hardware or whatever.

I'm new to building but at the same time the "i want the best of the best" kind of person (even if it's overkill), so if the advantage of the CL16-16-16-36 timings are really something (in my case), i would go ahead and buy them straight away - i just need someone with more building/hardware experience and knowledge than i do, explain to me whether or not it's worth the extra price and how much of an difference it would make for me practically.

Thanks guys!
 
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Different memory, one is CJR the other is b-die, unless you want to OC, the cheap one should be just fine in set xmp and forget mode
 

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Different memory, one is CJR the other is b-die, unless you want to OC, the cheap one should be just fine in set xmp and forget mode

Good answer. The difference in XMP timings exists, but will be all but impossible to notice outside of synthetic benchmarks.

The b-die will have much more flexibility for overclocking or tightened timings, but I would only spend the extra money if you enjoy that kind of tuning.
 
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Really its not worth the extra 180$. You can spend that elsewhere, like faster/better GPU or SSD.
And always there is a possibility to make that 3600 16-19-19-39 to run at 3600 16-16-16-36 with a little voltage tweaking.
Just make sure this kit, or any other you buy, that its on your motherboard's QVL.
 

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Really its not worth the extra 180$. You can spend that elsewhere, like faster/better GPU or SSD.
And always there is a possibility to make that 3600 16-19-19-39 to run at 3600 16-16-16-36 with a little voltage tweaking.
Just make sure this kit, or any other you buy, that its on your motherboard's QVL.

16-16-16-36 at 3600 on hynix CJR is a bit of a long shot in my experience, they really don't like tighter timings. It's possible, but you'd need a lot of patience and a little luck.
 
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Unless you plan on tweaking it won't matter.

I personally like the Bdie because its pretty easy to tweak to 3800 with tight timings lesser kits will need to be run at much looser timing and require luck to achieve it.


You'd also need a 2080 ti or plan for a much faster nextgen GPU for it to be worth it imo.

The 3600 16-19-19-39 is the slowest ram kit that should be considered especially for a 3950X
 
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Check out Team Group XTREEM. B-die kits built for overclocking and a WHOLE lot less than $419
 
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