Checking Disable Turbo decreases my fps but if unchecked can increase my fps however thermal throttle occurs

[Rivelia]

Hi all,

I have a Acer Predator Helios 300 (2020), and recently i have been trying out different settings on throttle stop because i wanted to stop my laptop from throttling whilst gaming (specifically on Apex Legends), when I disable turbo, my fps are around 80-90 and temps are fine however the fps are not consistent and sometimes makes the game unplayable. When i tried enabling turbo, it helps the fps tremendously around (150++fps) but thermal throttle happens every 5 seconds. I wonder how would i fix this issue or have better settings on my throttlestop. I have also encounter constant edp other in the limit section

 

[unclewebb]

No doubt about it. The 10750H runs hot when it is allowed to run at its full rated speed. When was the last time you did some laptop maintenance? Blowing out the dust and replacing the thermal paste with Honeywell PTM 7950 might help the cause. Don't waste your time with MX-4. Get the good stuff.

While you are waiting for some PTM 7950 to arrive, try reducing the turbo power limits. Check the MMIO Lock box at the top right of the TPL window and lower the power limits to whatever your cooling can manage. You did not include a log file while gaming so all I can do is guess. The 10750H has a 45W TDP power rating. Try setting PL1 and PL2 to 45. This will reduce maximum performance but it might help your CPU run at a more consistent speed without triggering constant thermal throttling.

Include a ThrottleStop log file that includes at least 15 minutes of gaming so I can get a better understanding of just how bad your cooling is. Some Acer laptops have barely adequate cooling. There might not be much you can do about that other than reducing performance.

Clear the BD PROCHOT box on the main screen and clear the Disable Turbo box while logging data.

 

[Rivelia]

I have cleaned my laptop once every two weeks and testing the game with the settings u provided just auto shutdown my pc but it is stable if i check the disable turbo setting somehow, dont really wanna disable turbo but i guess this is the only way for now

 

[unclewebb]

A 10750H has a 45W TDP power rating. When running a 10750H at its full rated speed, it can easily reach 70W or 80W. Your log file shows that even when limited to only 45W, the temperature slowly increases until it reaches 100°C. That means the cooling system is inadequate. It is not providing enough cooling.

Blowing the dust out is good but have you ever replaced the thermal paste? Even if the world's best thermal paste is expertly applied, if the heatsink and fan were only designed by Acer to provide 45W of cooling, there is no way you can run your powerful CPU at its full rated speed for any length of time. When a heatsink is inadequate the amount of heat inside your laptop will continue to increase. Even running at only 45W is too much at the moment. If you undervolt too much, you might crash because of lack of voltage. If you undervolt less, your computer might crash because the CPU is not happy running at its max temperature.

Some 10750H start to lose stability when undervolting more than -70 mV. When you lower the turbo ratios you might be forced to undervolt less to maintain stability. Try running the TS Bench 960M test. Can your computer complete this test without shutting down? Does this test report any errors? If you see even 1 error during this test, immediately stop the test. Errors are a good sign that you are undervolting too much. You need to increase the voltage.

Instead of checking Disable Turbo, try reducing the turbo power limits some more. Try using 40W for PL1 and PL2. I think your computer can manage that. It cannot cool a 45W CPU.

how would i fix this issue

There is no way to fix an inadequate heatsink. Avoid buying good looking laptops that internally are not well designed. You can try replacing the thermal paste with Honeywell PTM 7950. That might improve things if the previous paste has dried up or significantly pumped out.