Choosing a 1070!

[Mussels]

**Cards already chosen, read the rest of the thread**


First off, i can only really gets what available at the store near me locally due to the way i'm selling my cards (if a sale deal goes through, i'm not waiting weeks with no card). Stock on this website isn't always accurate, but they ship fast between stores.

Reason for upgrade is too many of my games dont support SLI or have glitches when enabled - 970 SLI *does* have the grunt for 4K gaming at settings i'm happy with, and a single 1070 outpaces the two combined (without the bugs)


I am after fan off at idle, but due to a thread on on TPU i'm ruling out the gigabyte cards.
Otherwise a 1070 is a 1070, so i'm really not sure what to be looking out for

The current contenders are:

ASUS GeForce GTX 1070 8GB OC Edition ROG Strix Graphics Card (those extra fan headers could work well with my side panel fan)
MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Gaming X 8GB (nothing exciting, but reviews stated it had very quiet fans)

 

[Liviu Cojocaru]

Hi ,

I would go for the Palit Game Rock (if available in your location) if I were you. Solid performance and cooling and also silent.
The color of the card though is not that great but I don't mind that, maybe you do...
If this is not an option I would go for the MSI, I had 2 MSI 970 in SLI and I was pleased with them.

Cheers

 

[Mussels]

palits not even available in my country. You can click those links and view all the available models.

 

[Liviu Cojocaru]

palits not even available in my country. You can click those links and view all the available models.

Then I would go for the MSI or it depends if you find a really good price for the STRIX. To be honest I would stick with the MSI

 

[P4-630]

I'm a proud owner of a MSI GTX1070 Gaming X, I use MSI Afterburner with custom fan profile all the time, the GPU runs @ 26 degrees idle with 20 ambient temp and fans spinning just below 1000rpm when idle, I like to keep my hardware running cool even when idle. I can't hear the noise from the GPU fans, I only hear the exhaust fan blowing air out at the back of my case.
However I have a "noise insulated" Be Quiet! case, maybe it would be noisier in another case, not sure about that.

When gaming I always have it running at stock speeds, which is more than enough for me, however I play @ 1080p.

As you play at 4K, depending on the settings a GTX1070 could do that but personally I would buy a 1080/Titan or 1080Ti if it comes someday...

 

[Liviu Cojocaru]

Would you be able to wait till Vega comes out, even if you don't want to buy AMD it could bring the prices down for the 10 series

 

[Mussels]

Its a timing thing - i've sold a PC that needs a GPU (and have a second lined up), so if i upgrade now, SLI gets split to 2nd and third systems, and their GPU's can be sold.

getting 10-15% faster than what i have now (more like 60% in games with no SLI support like starcraft II and the new skyrim remaster), half the TDP and '3.5GB' to 8GB should future proof and solve a few problems - its just which card out of those two, or a third contender i may not be aware of

 

[Liviu Cojocaru]

I see, go for it then

 

[qubit]

hmmm, tough choice there, Mussels. There's really not that much in it between them, not even the price or fan noise. Might be worth scouring reviews for notes on coil while between the two models, since a silent fan card will really make this irritating noise stand out.

While there's a TPU review for the MSI, there isn't one for the Asus, so here's a Hexus review to help you compare. I like MSI better as a brand and like the looks better, so I'd get that one.

If you can stretch to it, get the 1080 version as it's quite a bit faster and you can't have too much performance in gaming, even at 1080p. On top of that, it's got a bigger performance improvement over your old 970 SLI, helping to justify it.

Hi ,

I would go for the Palit Game Rock (if available in your location) if I were you. Solid performance and cooling and also silent.
The color of the card though is not that great but I don't mind that, maybe you do...
If this is not an option I would go for the MSI, I had 2 MSI 970 in SLI and I was pleased with them.

Cheers

Agreed, it would make for a superb card if it was available in Oz. I've got the 1080 version which was reviewed on TPU that's simply amazing.

EDIT I've just voted MSI and see that everyone else has too. I guess the choice is clear then.

 

[Mussels]

@qubit 1080 is ~$400 more here, massively overpriced. I could get two 1070's for the price of one 1080.
An important fact is i'm happy with my current performance in SLI - its when SLI isnt working, or causes flickering and stuttering that i have a problem.


So.... MSI seems to be the more popular card by a small percentage of "100"
anyone wanna give the reason for that? Just afterburners popularity?

 

[P4-630]

anyone wanna give the reason for that?

I didn't like the fan headers that come with the Asus also I prefer the looks of the MSI.

 

[Toothless]

Man, you have the same issue I do with my 780's. Pretty tempted to sell both cards just to get the dosh for a 1070 but I don't know if going without a real GPU for who knows how long is worth it.

 

[qubit]

@qubit 1080 is ~$400 more here, massively overpriced. I could get two 1070's for the price of one 1080.
An important fact is i'm happy with my current performance in SLI - its when SLI isnt working, or causes flickering and stuttering that i have a problem.


So.... MSI seems to be the more popular card by a small percentage of "100"
anyone wanna give the reason for that? Just afterburners popularity?

Ok, agreed $400 is way too much. Shame. I'd get the 1070 too in the same situation.

And yeah, SLI... what a %$&^% PITA. Great when it works, but far too many niggling issues. I'm never going multi-card again unless they're made to work in a more integrated manner that doesn't have such issues.

I'm sure you know this already, but AfterBurner can be used with any brand of card, so you're not limited to MSI for this.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Get the MSI -- I was very much in the same boat as you with the SLi'd 970s. my purchase of a 1070 was triggered by some bad microstuttering in BF1 but as soon as i turned HT back on for my 3930k, all the microstuttering went away.

The question of if i ever needed to purchase a 1070 in the first place still stands. but its not a move that i regret. I lucked out and landed a 1070 with Samsung ram instead of the micron chips which wont overclock and so far ive managed to get +150 on my core and the ram is sitting at +410 and is still WIP as i up the clocks after every stable BF1 gaming session. Folks in the 1070/1080 club house have managed to clock their ram to +700 or slightly over.

Fingers crossed you get a card with Samsung chips

 

[RippeR2005]

Hi,

I got myself a MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X a few days ago.
Till now, absolutely nothing to complain about. The card is very silent - all I can hear during gaming sessions is the fan noise my build regularly makes by default - and it runs at 66-67 degrees Celsius under load.
I don't use MSI Afterburner at all (I keep the card at stock values) and I also don't use it's RGB lighting on the fan shroud because I don't like extra software running in the background and I'm not into the whole RGB lighting thing.

I went with MSI over all the other manufacturers because I previously owned a GTX 970 from MSI for about 2 years and didn't have any issues with it, plus I like the overall look of their boards with Twin Frozr cooling solutions.

 

[Mussels]

Hi,

I got myself a MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X a few days ago.
Till now, absolutely nothing to complain about. The card is very silent - all I can hear during gaming sessions is the fan noise my build regularly makes by default - and it runs at 66-67 degrees Celsius under load.
I don't use MSI Afterburner at all (I keep the card at stock values) and I also don't use it's RGB lighting on the fan shroud because I don't like extra software running in the background and I'm not into the whole RGB lighting thing.

I went with MSI over all the other manufacturers because I previously owned a GTX 970 from MSI for about 2 years and didn't have any issues with it, plus I like the overall look of their boards with Twin Frozr cooling solutions.

Your comments on noise and the TPU review pretty much sold me on the MSI card. I've got a stupidly silent system (hence the fan off at idle requirement, the GPU fan is the loudest thing in it) - and being so quiet at load would make it silent all the time.

 

[P4-630]

Well the poll says 100% MSI as well ...LOL!

You won't regret it.
Now hope you get one with Samsung vram.

 

[Shou Miko]

The TwinFrozr cooler from MSI is always a solid choice I tried the last generation Strix cooler by Asus on GTX970 it was way too noisy for me under load where the TwinFrozr is more my level.

 

[64K]

I used to only buy EVGA cards until an issue with one of the heat pipes not making contact with the GPU on the 970 that I wanted plus WIzzard said it was too loud in the review so I tried a MSI 970 Gaming and was pleased in all respects with it's performance. Now I have a 980 Ti Gaming and again I am impressed with it so of the two choices MSI or ASUS I would take the MSI 1070 Gaming.

 

[brandonwh64]

I am after fan off at idle, but due to a thread on on TPU i'm ruling out the gigabyte cards.

I have a Gigabyte 1070 Gaming G1 and my fans never spike or hell they hardly run cause the cooler is pretty good.

 

[qubit]

@Mussels Just a thought: judging by the reviews, the cards are both pretty silent. However, it could be that one has significantly quieter coil whine, so how about you buy both, compare them and return* the one you like least?

I'm only saying this, because my two MSI 780 Ti Gaming cards have fairly quiet fans, but coil whine isn't very good on both, making for some obvious and annoying buzzing noises, even at 60fps vsync locked and depending on the game. Note that this model was reviewed on TPU, where coil whine wasn't mentioned, so must have been much better on the review sample.

*I'm assuming here that Oz has similar distance selling regulations to sunny Blighty allowing things to be tried and returned without penalty within a certain time.

 

[Mussels]

return policy here sucks balls, but if the MSI has whine i'll return it for the asus. This is why i want the local store - i know the staff and can get away with a same day return for a different model.

my 970's have coil whine, but only in SLI and only when FPS goes above 100 (so loading screens, menus etc. another of the reasons to go single GPU)

 

[RippeR2005]

@Mussels it could be that one has significantly quieter coil whine

Right, coil noise, forgot about this.
My 970 had pretty bad coil whine on high FPS. The 1070 still has some coil whine but it's much less perceivable, I'd say it's at about 25% the level that the 970 was, I can barely hear it.
With coil noise I guess it's really just a lottery when picking up a new card and I've read that even cards from the same manufacturer, and even the same model, can differ very much when it comes to coil noise...

 

[LightningJR]

I have an ASUS 1070, not ROG but I have it flashed to the ROG

I like the MSI brand better, that's just bias though. My ASUS card is very quiet running nearly identical to Ripper's post said his MSI card gets.

I can say that the only time I had coil whine is in DOOM Demo while the videos are playing at the start and getting 4000fps. no coil while present playing up near 200FPS that I can tell. Fan noise is practically non existent.


Honestly idk what you should get, either will serve you well.




ps. heheheh I effed up the 100% MSI. XD

 

[qubit]

Right, coil noise, forgot about this.
My 970 had pretty bad coil whine on high FPS. The 1070 still has some coil whine but it's much less perceivable, I'd say it's at about 25% the level that the 970 was, I can barely hear it.
With coil noise I guess it's really just a lottery when picking up a new card and I've read that even cards from the same manufacturer, and even the same model, can differ very much when it comes to coil noise...

Oh yeah, the variability of the chokes themselves and the way they're mounted on the board will make noticeable differences. Of course, there are ways to tackle this and make it hardly noticeable, but it generally involves higher quality components that cost more. My Palit GTX 1080 is really good for coil whine, but it's still there a bit, especially if the framerate is allowed to freewheel very high.