Space Lynx
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Sketching out some rough ideas... basically what gave me this idea was how hard it is to find decently priced transportation to get back and forth to work. How vulture like car salesman have been towards me, etc. I absolutely can't believe humanity has come to this. It's really sad and pathetic. There is no reason we can't figure this out.
There are loads and loads of empty warehouses around me that could possibly be converted to EV factories if could get some investment capital. We sure as heck would not be able to do this EV 170 mile range car for $4,700 like China, but I bet you we could pull it for $7,000 MSRP and no middle man car salesman, we could work with direct to door car companies, or outsource to freelance truckers. Probably looking at $1,000 for delivery. Ideally we would get it to the customer door for $7,000 total including tax, etc. Nice and simple like Carvana does it, but without Carvana's markup costs. Basically, instead of say me being CEO or you being CFO and raking in tens of millions, we will have no stocks, we will have no big pay, we will make $60k a year just like the guy on the factory floor, and in fact we will be on the factory floor as well. Maybe we could even work with this company in China in the name of climate change and invest in expanding their company, or possibly importing their cars at $5,000 a pop. 170 mile range is damn good enough for most commuters, the most important key factor here is the 8.1 kWh per 100 km.... which is 200-300% increase in fuel efficiency over the Tesla. Let's face it there is a whole generation of car buyers that just wants to get from point A to point B, and cares about the climate. There is a heck of a lot less to go wrong with a simple design like this car. Most people I know work 5 days a week and get maybe two weeks off for vacation a year, and even then they aren't allowed to take all two weeks at once... in which case if you need range for that one rare long weekend you want to get away, just rent a gas car. With as advanced as robotics have become, minimizing the amount of manpower needed to create this vehicle, improve upon it, and mass manufacture it would be a better goal for any major company looking to take the car market by storm.
Thoughts? It's just a bit of hypothesizing, I am well aware this will probably never happen in the United States, Elon, Bezos, Rivian CEO whoever that is these days, and the list goes on and on, pretend they care about climate change, but the truth is, this is the type of small car movement we need if we have any chance of saving climate. Also, these will be much easier on roads, than bigger cars that we are FORCED to buy because there are simply no other options well priced.
Clock is ticking. How much time do we really have before the turbulence offsets quality of living for the majority of humans? Change needs to happen now.
I think the fatal flaw that everyone like Tesla or Rivian or Ford has is that they think the small car market is shrinking. It's not. In fact all the small cars are sold out right now, the Rio's, the Accent's, etc it's the giant SUV's and pickup trucks that you can see as far as the eye can see on car dealers lots, no shortage for those, if you physically go drive around car lots and have a look for yourself instead of trusting the media. Problem is no one can afford that lifestyle, vast majority of us can't, even if we can most of us our sensible unlike the generations before us, and we want purely economical so we can enjoy other hobbies. If China can pull off a 170 mile range $4700 EV, we can figure this out too. It is the only future really, sure Hyperloop might happen in 150 years, see my link at the bottom of this posting, but for our lifetimes and those of our children, etc... we need change now... and this is the best way to make it happen. Take any young person not making much money (which is most of us) give us this brand new $4700 option in the parking lot, and the next car up I can buy is a 16 grand Kia Rio... guess which car I am buying folks? Heck with this small of an EV, I could probably set up portable solar panels in my back yard with portable charging station to charge my car, never having to pay for gas or electricity for my transportation ever again, all for less than 10k total package.
If billionaires truly cared about climate change they would stop believing the BS about what the markets want (yeah no one bought the ford fiesta cause of all the problems they read about the focus and so on and so forth) guess what... not many problems can happen with a small EV like this, they are fairly straight forward in their engineering, no moving parts, and can even do without a lot of the stuff higher end EV's have. Someone needs to step up to the plate. Contact some robotics manufacturers, investors, companies that have done this type of car overseas, and see what the possibilities are. It's the only way we are going to change the world in time. One piece of the puzzle at a time.
In the mean time, I will keep driving my parents car, because I don't make enough just yet in this crazy market.
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Source: https://electrek.co/2021/06/17/4700-electric-car-would-you-buy-wulings-mini-ev/
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Hyperloop thread:
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Hydrogen thread:
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There are loads and loads of empty warehouses around me that could possibly be converted to EV factories if could get some investment capital. We sure as heck would not be able to do this EV 170 mile range car for $4,700 like China, but I bet you we could pull it for $7,000 MSRP and no middle man car salesman, we could work with direct to door car companies, or outsource to freelance truckers. Probably looking at $1,000 for delivery. Ideally we would get it to the customer door for $7,000 total including tax, etc. Nice and simple like Carvana does it, but without Carvana's markup costs. Basically, instead of say me being CEO or you being CFO and raking in tens of millions, we will have no stocks, we will have no big pay, we will make $60k a year just like the guy on the factory floor, and in fact we will be on the factory floor as well. Maybe we could even work with this company in China in the name of climate change and invest in expanding their company, or possibly importing their cars at $5,000 a pop. 170 mile range is damn good enough for most commuters, the most important key factor here is the 8.1 kWh per 100 km.... which is 200-300% increase in fuel efficiency over the Tesla. Let's face it there is a whole generation of car buyers that just wants to get from point A to point B, and cares about the climate. There is a heck of a lot less to go wrong with a simple design like this car. Most people I know work 5 days a week and get maybe two weeks off for vacation a year, and even then they aren't allowed to take all two weeks at once... in which case if you need range for that one rare long weekend you want to get away, just rent a gas car. With as advanced as robotics have become, minimizing the amount of manpower needed to create this vehicle, improve upon it, and mass manufacture it would be a better goal for any major company looking to take the car market by storm.
Thoughts? It's just a bit of hypothesizing, I am well aware this will probably never happen in the United States, Elon, Bezos, Rivian CEO whoever that is these days, and the list goes on and on, pretend they care about climate change, but the truth is, this is the type of small car movement we need if we have any chance of saving climate. Also, these will be much easier on roads, than bigger cars that we are FORCED to buy because there are simply no other options well priced.
Clock is ticking. How much time do we really have before the turbulence offsets quality of living for the majority of humans? Change needs to happen now.
I think the fatal flaw that everyone like Tesla or Rivian or Ford has is that they think the small car market is shrinking. It's not. In fact all the small cars are sold out right now, the Rio's, the Accent's, etc it's the giant SUV's and pickup trucks that you can see as far as the eye can see on car dealers lots, no shortage for those, if you physically go drive around car lots and have a look for yourself instead of trusting the media. Problem is no one can afford that lifestyle, vast majority of us can't, even if we can most of us our sensible unlike the generations before us, and we want purely economical so we can enjoy other hobbies. If China can pull off a 170 mile range $4700 EV, we can figure this out too. It is the only future really, sure Hyperloop might happen in 150 years, see my link at the bottom of this posting, but for our lifetimes and those of our children, etc... we need change now... and this is the best way to make it happen. Take any young person not making much money (which is most of us) give us this brand new $4700 option in the parking lot, and the next car up I can buy is a 16 grand Kia Rio... guess which car I am buying folks? Heck with this small of an EV, I could probably set up portable solar panels in my back yard with portable charging station to charge my car, never having to pay for gas or electricity for my transportation ever again, all for less than 10k total package.
If billionaires truly cared about climate change they would stop believing the BS about what the markets want (yeah no one bought the ford fiesta cause of all the problems they read about the focus and so on and so forth) guess what... not many problems can happen with a small EV like this, they are fairly straight forward in their engineering, no moving parts, and can even do without a lot of the stuff higher end EV's have. Someone needs to step up to the plate. Contact some robotics manufacturers, investors, companies that have done this type of car overseas, and see what the possibilities are. It's the only way we are going to change the world in time. One piece of the puzzle at a time.
In the mean time, I will keep driving my parents car, because I don't make enough just yet in this crazy market.
New Volkswagen ID. Life will bring EV to the entry-level in 2025
The ID. Life was announced by Volkswagen during the International Motor Show IAA Mobility 2021 held in Munich, where the company also showed a self-driving vehicle made...
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Source: https://electrek.co/2021/06/17/4700-electric-car-would-you-buy-wulings-mini-ev/
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Hyperloop thread:
Seems to me, that Hyperloop is not only the future, it will benefit all of us and save us a lot of time.
Watch this video in full before commenting please. Keep in mind, even in the pandemic like now, hyperloop would still be better than all other modes of public transport (the pods are more sanitary since only small number of people for each one, versus air being exchanged on an entire train...
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Hydrogen thread:
Why did we abandon hydrogen cars so quickly?
The more I look at what Toyota has done (and is doing) with a hydrogen powered internal combustion engine even... I just don't get it. I know storage costs of hydrogen are expensive, but if it were scaled up, wouldn't the cost dramatically lower? The Boring Company could dig giant underground...
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best get prepping 
There are peaks and troughs when it comes to the weather and temperatures, FS is this 2021 or 1500 BC where praying to the sun god will save us all from destruction from the angry earth gods.... 
carry on with your fan fiction