CPU, GPU and RING limited EDP OTHER, CPU won't use over 10W

[maxslo]

I have an issue with an HP laptop, it won't use more than 10W even though the limits are set to 30/15W (PL2/PL1).
The EDP OTHER is lighting up in all 3 sections and only that is lighting up. This is being triggered even while in idle, all 3 are permanently on.
Also, I can't change anything in FIVR, Everything is greyed-out and disabled.
This happens on fresh windows install and there are no Intel DPTF drivers.

Anyone experienced anything like this before and how did you solve it?

 

[unclewebb]

how did you solve it?

Some laptops set restrictive current limits that cannot be changed by using ThrottleStop. Post screenshots of the FIVR and TPL windows so I can see your settings.

There is no need to check the Clock Mod box unless your laptop has a clock modulation throttling problem.

 

[maxslo]

@unclewebb sure, here are the two windows.
TPL:

FIVR:

 

[unclewebb]

Clear the Sync MMIO box and check the MMIO Lock box near the top right of the TPL window. I do not think this will solve your problem but I would still do it.

Some laptops set restrictive current limits

That seems to be the main problem. If you look in the FIVR window IccMax is set to only 33.00. The FIVR settings are locked by the BIOS so there is nothing you can do to increase the IccMax limit.

In the TPL window you can try increasing Power Limit 4. Either set this to the max which is 1023 or try setting this limit to a value of 0 which should disable this limit. If you get lucky perhaps this will solve your EDP throttling problem.

I never set the PP0 Power Limit. Change this to 0, set the PP0 Turbo Time Limit to the minimum, 0.0010 and press Apply. After that clear the PP0 Power Limit check box and press OK to save this setting.

 

[maxslo]

Clear the Sync MMIO box and check the MMIO Lock box near the top right of the TPL window. I do not think this will solve your problem but I would still do it.


That seems to be the main problem. If you look in the FIVR window IccMax is set to only 33.00. The FIVR settings are locked by the BIOS so there is nothing you can do to increase the IccMax limit.

In the TPL window you can try increasing Power Limit 4. Either set this to the max which is 1023 or try setting this limit to a value of 0 which should disable this limit. If you get lucky perhaps this will solve your EDP throttling problem.

I never set the PP0 Power Limit. Change this to 0, set the PP0 Turbo Time Limit to the minimum, 0.0010 and press Apply. After that clear the PP0 Power Limit check box and press OK to save this setting.

None of it helped, I find it difficult to believe that all models like this one would be throttled this badly, it's probably something wrong with the Firmware/Hardware in this specific unit right?

 

[OneMoar]

None of it helped, I find it difficult to believe that all models like this one would be throttled this badly, it's probably something wrong with the Firmware/Hardware in this specific unit right?

no they are all really that bad
you either get a thin and slow laptop or a chunky and fast laptop
not both

 

[unclewebb]

I find it difficult to believe that all models like this one would be throttled this badly

Believe it! There is a reason ThrottleStop has been around for 15 years. All laptop manufacturers are guilty of selling a variety of models that should never have been sold. Many of these problems can be fixed by using ThrottleStop but some problems cannot be easily fixed.

If you can find an early BIOS version that does not lock out the FIVR settings, perhaps you can increase IccMax and fix your throttling problem.

 

[e-raser]

What's the final outcome on this? (@maxslo)

Asking as I'm seeing pretty much the same (@ https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...-on-battery-since-upgrade-win10-win11.318357/).

 

[maxslo]

What's the final outcome on this? (@maxslo)

Asking as I'm seeing pretty much the same (@ https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...-on-battery-since-upgrade-win10-win11.318357/).

Yeah i just accepted that it wont run faster, manufacturer has locked it down i guess.

 

[e-raser]

Hmm okay... so this device always behaved like that.
So that would be a difference as mine was running just perfect (it's a "battery only" thing in my case) some time ago.