DDR4 2933 ? i7 10700f all cores clock speed ?

[spudknife]

Hi,
few weeks ago I ask advice for an upgrade.
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/upgrade-i5-2500k-intel-or-amd.270883/

I decided to buy i7 10700f + asrock h410m-itx/ac + ddr4 corsair lpx 3200Mz
Today I was looking at CPU Z and I was surprised of two things :

1) DDR4 speed is not at 2933Mhz and don't see any profile XMP for 2933 --> What can I do ?

2) When I bench the CPU all cores the speed is 4300Mhz and after 3800Mhz is this normal ?

Thanks in advance

 

[Apocalypsee]

Your motherboard only support DDR4-2933MHz maximum speed. You need Z series motherboard to get any higher AFAIK. You need to manually adjust it if it can't do XMP profile as the XMP can do 3200MHz

 

[spudknife]

When I put 2933 in the bios all others parameters cas... are bad what should I put ?

 

[Lionheart]

Gotta go into the BIOS & set the RAM speed to 2993Mhz, if you can't find an XMP setting in the BIOS just do it manually, it's easy enough, just look for the Memory multiplier & set it to 29, it will probably be the maximum number you can set it to since you're on a H410 mobo, and up the DRAM voltage to around 1.35, should do the trick. As for the your CPU clock benchmarking with CPU-Z we're gonna need more info there, It's a 65W TDP CPU so those clocks seem adequate, are you using that Enermax cooler you kept from the previous build? You might be able to get a consistent 4.3ghz all core if you can find the PL1 setting in the mobo BIOS, it unlocks the CPU from a 65W chip to around 125W, gives it more juice, but keep aware of VRM temps.

 

[spudknife]

Thanks I do a test in 45min I update after

Yes I am using the enermax cooler and I think there is no PL1 for h410.

 

[Lionheart]

When I put 2933 in the bios all others parameters cas... are bad what should I put ?

Try using the 3200Mhz CAS latency settings?

 

[spudknife]

Tried using the 3200Mhz CAS latency settings?

Is this fine now ? tRFC 514 and CR 2T is this ok ?

Is CL 18 ok ? Why no 16 ?

 

[Lionheart]

View attachment 167114
Is this fine now ? tRFC 514 and CR 2T is this ok ?

That CAS# Latency (CL) should be at 16 but hey, if it works for you, it works. I'm sure you can tinker with the Timings & make the lower/tighter over time, up to you, might get bit extra performance but that requires patients & a bit of know how. Anyways enjoy your New PC build.

 

[spudknife]

thanks you Lionheart and about the clock speed ?

CL 16

About the clock speed all is fine or not ?

 

[Lionheart]

thanks you Lionheart and about the clock speed ?

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CL 16

About the clock speed all is fine or not ?

Looks good, and the whole CPU clock speed @ 4300Mhz - 3700Mhz is completely normal. benchmarks, demanding Apps & gaming will push the CPU clocks to around 4300Mhz, less demanding things like web browsing, ect will lower the locks.

 

[spudknife]

Looks good, and the whole CPU clock speed @ 4300Mhz - 3700Mhz is completely normal. benchmarks, demanding Apps & gaming will push the CPU clocks to around 4300Mhz, less demanding things like web browsing, ect will lower the locks.

and ty

when I start the bench it is 4300Mhz and CPU temp about 70° after 1 min it is going down to 3700Mhz and CPU temp about 65°.
Is there a way to have always 4300Mhz ?

 

[Chomiq]

What cpu cooler are you using with that i7?

 

[spudknife]

What cpu cooler are you using with that i7?

enermax LiqTech ELC-LT120X-HP

https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/6340/enermax-liqtech-120x-aio-liquid-cpu-cooler-review/index.html

 

[Tatty_Two]

4600mhz should be the all core turbo boost for heavy multi threaded loads, the idle clock speed is 2900mhz when there is no core load, turbo boost 2.0 should give you 4700mhz on 2 cores (I think, maybe 3) and if your H series board allows Turbo Boost 3.0 you should get 4800mhz on those 2 or 3 cores, you will not be able to set all core turbo boost on a H series board I think but check Bios settings just to make sure.

 

[spudknife]

4600mhz should be the all core turbo boost for heavy multi threaded loads, the idle clock speed is 2900mhz when there is no core load, turbo boost 2.0 should give you 4700mhz on 2 cores (I think, maybe 3) and if your H series board allows Turbo Boost 3.0 you should get 4800mhz on those 2 or 3 cores, you will not be able to set all core turbo boost on a H series board I think but check Bios settings just to make sure.

some results :
2 threads 4600Mhz 65°
4 threads 4400Mhz 67°
6 threads 4100Mhz 65°
8 threads 3900Mhz 64°
12 threads 3800Mhz 66°
16 threads 3700Mhz 65°

Can I disable this : cpu thermal throttling ?

 

[Lionheart]

More of a power delivery setting than a thermal throttling one, you're gonna have to look around in you BIOS settings for a power enhancement setting, it's supposely called PL1 but some manufacturers won't label it that.

 

[spudknife]

More of a power delivery setting than a thermal throttling one, you're gonna have to look around in you BIOS settings for a power enhancement setting, it's supposely called PL1 but some manufacturers won't label it that.

BFB (PL1) only for h470 for asrock :-(https://www.asrock.com/microsite/20... Boost,hidden power of processors immediately.

 

[Lionheart]

Well that blows, Guess Asrock didn't include it with the cheaper H410 boards.

 

[spudknife]

Well that blows, Guess Asrock didn't include it with the cheaper H410 boards.

ty

From i5 2500k to i7 10700f is still a very big increase

Perhaps Asrock will update the bios later with BFB...

 

[Selaya]

According to this you should be able to unlock power limits using Throttlestop:

Things get interesting once you adjust the power limit, which is possible on all motherboards and chipsets, even dirt-cheap H410 boards, using Throttlestop.

You do however may want to adjust your cooling solution accordingly though, the 10700 can draw a lot of power and thus generate a lot of heat.

 

[spudknife]

According to this you should be able to unlock power limits using Throttlestop:
You do however may want to adjust your cooling solution accordingly though, the 10700 can draw a lot of power and thus generate a lot of heat.

ty I check this tomorow

 

[Tatty_Two]

You would probably also need to check that motherboards power delivery, if you manage to get higher boost clocks through Throttlestop you are going to put increased load through the board and being the budget of the bunch the board may not like it.

 

[spudknife]

You would probably also need to check that motherboards power delivery, if you manage to get higher boost clocks through Throttlestop you are going to put increased load through the board and being the budget of the bunch the board may not like it.

I have to check my PSU (seasonic 550W) ?

 

[Selaya]

No, your logic board's VRMs. Cheap boards tend to have shitty VRMs, they may go kaboom if you keep loading them with high wattage over an extended period of time.

 

[spudknife]

According to this you should be able to unlock power limits using Throttlestop:
You do however may want to adjust your cooling solution accordingly though, the 10700 can draw a lot of power and thus generate a lot of heat.

BFB (PL1) only for h470 for asrock :-(https://www.asrock.com/microsite/2020BFB/#:~:text=ASRock BFB (Base Frequency Boost,hidden power of processors immediately.

Also according to this https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i7-10700/19.html 43° on laod I think I have an issue with my CPU cooler.